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Old 13-11-2006 | 04:13 PM
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I built a garage on the back of my house about 2 years ago now
It was a concreate sectional garage
Its 20 ft x 21 ft with a peak roof
Its about 30 ft from the house
Now i never got planning permission or building regs
I am now selling the house and there solicitor is asking about the garage
What i want to know is do i need any building regs or anything really and if so how do i go about getting them,
As i know nothing about this game
Old 13-11-2006 | 04:45 PM
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ok m8 pretty sure (as my m8 did the same)
that your basically ok long as its 10 mtres from the house and takes up no more than 33% of the existing area you have
and i'm also sure it can't be any higher than 4metres tall

My m8 has a huge workshop in his garden bigger than your garage and no permission was needed.

You will need a letter from the council though stating no regs-planning was required
Old 13-11-2006 | 04:53 PM
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Can't you pull the card saying its been up for 15 years or so as I'm sure that one use to work, stating recently refurbed ....
Old 13-11-2006 | 05:03 PM
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As it is sectional does it mean it is not a permanent structure?

Not sure on this one to be honest I know wooden is OK.

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Old 13-11-2006 | 05:08 PM
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Does not matter how far it is from the house.

Its not a permanent structure so does not NORMALLY need planning permission like sheds, greenhouses and conservatories....

BUT, the size of it is where the problem more likely is. As those measurements take it way above the pemitted 70 cubic meters your allowed without needing planning.
Old 13-11-2006 | 05:33 PM
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So what do i need to do to make it legal
I have heard you can get an imdenmnity policy ? ( whatever that is )
Old 13-11-2006 | 05:36 PM
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Well, ive had to buy one of those before when we sold our last house as we didnt have a gaurantee for the new windows and doors...like im going to get someone in to fit my windows when im a builder and 99% sure they were fitted better than the window companies would have done it But, had to have one... Maybe you culd get one for that, or apply for planning...

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My dad put 2 single size garages toghter and someone reported it when they came out the just said no more then 4mrts is fine as long as it does'nt sit higher then the Bungerlow
Whot my dad he just said it was moved from the side of the house out to the back forgot to tell them it was 2 into 1 But the went away happy good thing as it was 75% built att and i was'nt taking the fcuker down AGAIN
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http://www.whitesconservatories.co.u...ermission.html

You probably don't need building regs as it's temporary, but phone your local authority to check.
If it's under 30 sq mtrs you don't need building regs approval.

Watch out for the buyer looking for a price reduction as the garage is "temporary"

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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Well, ive had to buy one of those before when we sold our last house as we didnt have a gaurantee for the new windows and doors...like im going to get someone in to fit my windows when im a builder and 99% sure they were fitted better than the window companies would have done it But, had to have one... Maybe you culd get one for that, or apply for planning...
How much Ł was it
Was it a pain to get and how long to get it as i have a buyer and i want to get it signed and sealed asap .
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'Timber' doesnt make it temporary. The LA will still make a judgement. What if i built a 2storey log cabin next to your house? is that temporary? No.

The reference to the windows is down to FENSA approval and a separate issue. Any 'new' windows need to conform and you will either need a ticket from the installer, or a cert from Control.

I would go with the 'old' tag and state that it has been there for years....be vague.

If not, then you will get wrapped up in retrospective planning apps and all the joy that brings.

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Old 14-11-2006 | 06:10 AM
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just cann the planning office, mine were surprisingly helpfull.

but I think as it's not a permanant structure you'll be ok.
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Originally Posted by Alg1k
So what do i need to do to make it legal
I have heard you can get an imdenmnity policy ? ( whatever that is )
Only true way to get it 'legal' will be to get a retrospective application in with the Planers.

The indemity policy you refer to is the basis of pretty well all insurance polices in the UK. Indemity = puttting you back in the position u were before the loss. Dont get these two mixed up.

I would go with the vague "been there forever mate" angle, otherwise you will need permission.

HTH?

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Old 14-11-2006 | 08:00 AM
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Silver is talking sense - temporary structures according to planners are portacabins etc which can be installed and removed in one lump and only remain in the location on a temporary basis

typically anything with a solid built in base is a permanent building in the eyes of planning no matter what the structure built on it is made of.

Your other option bar retrospective is"permitted development" which allows a structure without planning if it meets certain criteria such as height, volume and distance from existing boundaries - call into your local planning office and they will usually have a leaflet on what constitutes permitted developement.

Even if it gets classed as permitted development you still need to then check if it needs building regs approval which is a seperate matter, garages as they are not habitable rooms are usually excempt.

Planners have a lot of free rein in what they can deem as needing planning, and you dont have much ammunition to fight back other than a long winded appeal process - dont piss them off as they can be stubborn bastards, work with them and they will be a lot more helpful.

last and quickest option is to tear it down.

edited - meant to say your buyers can still buy it as it stands and take on the risk in the future that they may need to apply or pull it down - it does not mean you cannot sell it to them - solicitors are just trying to cover there client ass
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Thanks all
Thats given me some good info to mull over
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