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Old 31-10-2006, 07:06 PM
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Default Help/info needed .... VAT on 2nd hand parts ????

Ok if you buy a 2nd hand exhaust from a tuning company and they state its 2nd hand do you have to pay VAT on it?

I always thought not on 2nd hand goods, because the VAT was paid the 1st time round when it was sold new, therefore you dont pay VAT for a 2nd time when the goods are 2nd hand.

Am i right ??

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Old 31-10-2006, 07:18 PM
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had this before.

If the company is VAT registered they have to charge for it as thet item was part of thier stock, it doesn't matter if it was vat'd before or not, all stock sales will have it added.

if they bought it in, they have to account for it leaving.
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Originally Posted by Moose 130
had this before.

If the company is VAT registered they have to charge for it as thet item was part of thier stock, it doesn't matter if it was vat'd before or not, all stock sales will have it added.

if they bought it in, they have to account for it leaving.
correct,
i dont know how many times on this board i have seen people slagging off traders because they need to charge vat on secondhand goods they sell if they are vat registered
Old 31-10-2006, 09:22 PM
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If I sell a second hand part then i charge VAT on it.

I am vat registered and have my vat bill at the end of the year.

So I will get charged the vat on the second hand goods as it is part of the turnover.

Why should i pay the vat?

The customer has to pay the vat always.
Old 31-10-2006, 09:25 PM
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What you sell is irelevant , if you turn over more than 61k a year you have to charge VAT on every item you sell ,,new or used

simple as that
Old 31-10-2006, 09:37 PM
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Even if you dont turnover more than Ł61k a year you can still become VAT registered so the same applies!!!
Old 31-10-2006, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
What you sell is irelevant , if you turn over more than 61k a year you have to charge VAT on every item you sell ,,new or used

simple as that
That cannot be right.

Lots of things are vat exempt. (Ok, not usually car parts!)

Books - for example. A shop selling car parts wouldn't charge vat on a Haynes manual.

I dont see why second hand parts would be liable for vat - as it was already paid when the item was new.

I think the reason traders charge (and pay) vat is because the parts they sell are technically RECYCLED - not second hand.

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Old 31-10-2006, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
What you sell is irelevant , if you turn over more than 61k a year you have to charge VAT on every item you sell ,,new or used

simple as that
I really like UK for that law, over here you have to charge VAT even if yo are a tiny company. Then again Sweden is the country with the highest taxrates. We used to get something for our high taxes but we are dropping fast in the list for wellfare. So nowadays we just pay high tax and get very little service in return.
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Originally Posted by phil4x4saph
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
What you sell is irelevant , if you turn over more than 61k a year you have to charge VAT on every item you sell ,,new or used

simple as that
That cannot be right.

Lots of things are vat exempt. (Ok, not usually car parts!)

Books - for example. A shop selling car parts wouldn't charge vat on a Haynes manual.

I dont see why second hand parts would be liable for vat - as it was already paid when the item was new.

I think the reason traders charge (and pay) vat is because the parts they sell are technically RECYCLED - not second hand.
your wrong mate apart from the certain things being vat exempt....but secondhand or recycled car parts cartainly isnt exempt!
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Im not going to get in a arguement with you, but

"you have to charge vat on every item you sell"

as a blanket statement is not true.

But I accept it may well apply to every item YOU sell.

When I wrote "I dont see why second hand parts would be liable for vat" means I disagree with the VAT rules, not what you wrote!
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everyone disagrees with the vat rules cos no one likes paying it!
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Ok cheers.

I still been over charged for something but i will re-calculate what im owed inc the vat.
Old 01-11-2006, 12:17 PM
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thats the trouble we dont like paying the vat but we got to lifes a bitch
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