Was just watching that used car roadshow with that fat coont on it. he reakons thats this bag of shite renault 21 turbo with a claimed 205bhp is a cosworth eater. what a total nob wank never heard such such shite. and one for his fat ass

 

if anyone wants to email the fat git heres his email address

jasondawe@usedcarroadshow.co.uk

im currently in the process of telling him what i think of his lard arse

 

Why?

 

that was a long reply

 

Lee21, where are you.

 

man i dont think a standard r21 would beat a standard cos

 

I thought they was about 180bhp ??????????

I might be wrong

Steve.

 

No wonder TOP GEAR focked him off after 1 series.The guy knows nothing except how many MARS BARS he can fit in the GLOVE BOX.

 

bit harsh that minter......
























.... i thought it was http://www.thechocolatedreamer.com/

 

they were always know as the poor mans cosworth but they r fast and i think but im not sure there carb and not injection!

 

haha reminds me off a shit-mouthed lad that used to tell me his R21 was faster than a cossie of someone I knew. . took me out in it an it was hangin. . wasnt even runnin std boost

 

i dont see why it isnt ?

a 4x4 saff has what 220hp ? minus 4wd loss = about 190hp ?

 

how many std sapphs are their these days tho

His point is valid tho, probably at the time it was filmed, or if he was talkin from a std car point of view. .


they run poofy turbos tho dont they? T2?

 

Very quick cars the R21.

They run efi not carb and yes, I have seen them go down th Pod in 11,s...

Dont knock em man....

 

ive owned several 21s there quick for what they are but they wont beat a cossie in any form as there power is lower down they will run out of steam to quick

standard they are 175bhp 200 lb torque most only ever see around 230 bhp even with a t34 but the owners tend to bodge em by useing bigger volvo injectors with no chip change

the fastest 21 so far is a 13.2 which craig righton owns hes the leaader of the 21toc which me and gareth t have just put a megasquirt on which made a good difference to the car


but there is a claim to fame if i remember trev robinsons quadra beat mark sheads escort once at a 0-60 chalenge the 21 got a 4.7 on gas

they run a simular t3 to a 2wd saff 8v there a realy god car for the cash 600/1000pound will buy u alot of fun and there not that unreliable either but can be hard to get parts for

 

how can it.................its french

 

mate if it was a choice between a rst or a early scoob / evo id get a 21t there a good car leather ect a good one will drive really nice just ugly as sin

 

Is that the 'large', lisping menace from early top gears by any chance?

If so he does some classic work reviewing an R34 GTR, sure the vid is on the net somewhere too.

 

are they ?

When we came over to TRAX there where more cossies on the side off the road with a lot off smoke and problems than 21's

Grtz from Belgium

 

Dont see many 21t's on the road much. I went in one years ago and quite liked it for what it was

 

PMSL@ JO hi jo nice to see u here bud

 

i was runnin a true 270 bhp and i got battered by 1down the m1

i was off the clock and he undertook me

 

What wheres my headgasket gone???

I know racing the 21

 

Hi mate ! Nice to be here, nice website btw !

@ the members, dont get me wrong: I also love the look off the cossie's, lovely car btw ! The reason why i dont want one is this:

1: priceless in Belgium (15000€ for an 86' with gras inside)
2: very rear ( you dont see them over here), just a couple showcars that come out for events and weekends), just like the 21T (8 left in belgium)
3: Belgium and UK are very, very diffirant. The prices in UK (in my case for the 21) are a joke (cheap). In Belgium whe pay double, sometime's tripple for parts.
4: my wife almost kill me, so its not possible to get another fast car in my garage.
5: i'm not that sure that a std cossie beat a std 21 T , and now i'm talking just over figures because i never see a cossie on the belgium roads to make the test. (and that's not possible because my 21 aint std.)

 

Pmsl i seen this a week or so ago maybe longer couldn`t believe my ears , this fat dorris saying a renault 21 would eat a cossie

He was talking right shite if a remember right too

 

you mean, just like Renault, that win everything in F1, or Citroen, that do the same in rally ?

 

the mans gota point and he drives a cossie

 

yep... that does not mean i'm fan of French cars, never had one and probably never will. But i just can't stand stupid remarks like this without anything to prove what he says

 

hmmm maybe r21t is a potential runabout car for me.

i bet theres tons of good looking fucked ones on the market ?

 

mate not alot about but they do come up on ebay ect now and again

 

ok so the fat twat says it eats cossies. if the max you can get out of an r21 is around 240bhp would it eat say a highly modded cosworth ? say 450 -500 bhp hmm i think not so the term he used is bollox that an r21 will eat a cossie.The one on the program was not standard so why should he mean a standard cossie? fair enough if it was a standard r21 then perhaps it would stand a slight chance against a standard cossie but the word EAT is certainly not the case. Thats just his favorite word cos thats all the poker ever does ,eat.

 

LMFAO

 

a group of 21t owners went to brighton all above 200 bhp average of 230 a lad from here called andy francis had a stage 1 cossie 2wd went with them and in the words of a lad there was we couldnt get near it at all standing start ect

 

Well I don't know what BHP the Es Cos was running on the way to Trax (M1 nr J21) coz the Mrs has to resort to going up the inside of it coz it wouldn't get outta the way

Oh sorry,didn't I say.....she drives one of those shitty Renault 21 Turbos....built by me with 250bhp and 275lb's of torque.

Of course its not going to 'eat' a well tuned Cossie,thats pretty obvious considering some of you guys are pushing 500+BHP but it holds it own against a lot of cars which people class as quick.

Also I would say don't write them off until you've actually driven one,being an 8 valve as opposed to your 16 valvers it delivers a nice big rush of torque fairly low down the rev range.

And as far as handling goes,I think you'd be surprisingly impressed.

Unfortunatly what has effectively killed the majority of the cars off is the 'French Cosworth' title that it picked up a few years back.
Reason being you get spotty 17yr old oiks that cud never insure a Cossie in their lifetime go out and pick one up for a grand,thrash the bollocks of it and throw it away 'coz there cheap'

Its a shame that they never really took off because all said and done they're a well put together car with an amazing spec as standard.

It'll be interesting to see what sort of results Craigs 21 gives now the Megasquirt's been fitted (ala Jaycos) coz after talking to him about it early on he reckons its got huge potential.

Watch this space over the next year or so coz i've got an engine build on the go for my own 21T and with the spec i've got should be good for some proper horses which in a FWD car that looks factory standard should be good for a laff.....so watch ya backs!!!

Cheers guys

Roj (I got my bullet-proof vest at the ready!!!)

 

I think the bloke ok tbh, ok so he got it wrong.........no need to shoot him is there.........

 

shit theres 21t owners comin out the wood work

didnt think many of you could post anywhere else apart from 21toc im fuckin shocked

but to add roj is right there a good buy and good bang for your bucks

 

i think you got a wrong impression, 240 bhp aint the max...absolute not !

the MOST 21 owners keep it running at that power, there's a lot more power behind that old 8v.

 

We picked a R21 (J reg I think) fwd (the quadras are slower) last year for much cheapness, and I was surprised how it flew! pound for pound wasn't bad value, trip computer, all leathered up etc, pretty sure the mate of the bloke who bought it off us had over 300bhp

Z

 

I think one of the problems is we i.e cosworth owners on here tend to think at least 300+bhp when we think of a cossie, however im sure most tv presenters of this kind of show think in terms of standard cars, now I dont know how the standard cars compare but I doubt that a stndard r21t would "eat" a standard cosworth but at the same time I dont know which would be fastest, could be a close thing.

 

i cant believe you got worked up enough to even post about it