ALS on Cossie's
30-10-2006, 09:55 PM
#81
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Originally Posted by Stavros
wassat u made mate? and wat advantages it have?
30-10-2006, 10:04 PM
#83
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Originally Posted by Stavros
no flow advantages etc?
as i never had a prob with mine, not soon as i took it apart and smoothed off the edges etc properly
as i never had a prob with mine, not soon as i took it apart and smoothed off the edges etc properly
)plus,,,, its FREE
30-10-2006, 10:06 PM
#84
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yes, thats a big help 
quick ALS question!
you know the way it lets the revs drop as per usual, would that be possible regargdless of bypassed airflow?
even if say, i dunno, throttle was wide open?
as obv normally if even ISCV was wide open itd rev up, but dont with ALS on
quick ALS question!
you know the way it lets the revs drop as per usual, would that be possible regargdless of bypassed airflow?
even if say, i dunno, throttle was wide open?
as obv normally if even ISCV was wide open itd rev up, but dont with ALS on
30-10-2006, 10:18 PM
#86
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Gareth,
That design is the future....
Ive ended up making a few different coils to perfect it....I even have one that'll lift it at idle with no loss...
Just be aware of how much the ecu can handle ive run through a relay....
That design is the future....
Ive ended up making a few different coils to perfect it....I even have one that'll lift it at idle with no loss...
Just be aware of how much the ecu can handle ive run through a relay....
30-10-2006, 10:32 PM
#87
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Originally Posted by sibster
Gareth,
That design is the future....
Ive ended up making a few different coils to perfect it....I even have one that'll lift it at idle with no loss...
Just be aware of how much the ecu can handle ive run through a relay....
That design is the future....
Ive ended up making a few different coils to perfect it....I even have one that'll lift it at idle with no loss...
Just be aware of how much the ecu can handle ive run through a relay....
ya i do like the idea of what you have done,,, ill see how i get on with the coil tomorrow
31-10-2006, 08:56 AM
#93
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Not 100% tried it in anger yet...that particular coil we ran at 60hz..still messing about with it really....that was about 4 - 5 weeks ago not had a lot of time since....
Who's coils are you using?
I might be able to lay my hands on some....
Who's coils are you using?
I might be able to lay my hands on some....
31-10-2006, 09:01 AM
#94
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Originally Posted by sibster
Not 100% tried it in anger yet...that particular coil we ran at 60hz..still messing about with it really....that was about 4 - 5 weeks ago not had a lot of time since....
Who's coils are you using?
I might be able to lay my hands on some....
Who's coils are you using?
I might be able to lay my hands on some....
will do for a start
great idea you had there though,, sorry for copying it 
31-10-2006, 09:15 AM
#95
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Gareth,
Dont mind at all pal....I aint got much time to play anyway....
Let me know who's coils he buys if you can....
This is wire we used to wind the coil for optimum pull....
http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/se...ukie&Nr=avl:uk
Ian
Dont mind at all pal....I aint got much time to play anyway....
Let me know who's coils he buys if you can....
This is wire we used to wind the coil for optimum pull....
http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/se...ukie&Nr=avl:uk
Ian
31-10-2006, 09:25 AM
#97
Any idea on how to keep the temperatures in the engine at minimum when running agressive als?
From my old engine when i was running mild 0psi+ als the oil temp went straight to 120celsius which is not good (running original 4x4 oilcooler)
And i had to remove the right lamp to get air that was cool enough to keep the antilag going, as it will cut if act is above 40degrees.
I do understand that water injection, big intercooler, proper oilcooler and a cold air intake for the airfilter is necessary, but are there anything else that could help?
Is the exhaust valves a weak point? if so what items can replace the original ones?
From my old engine when i was running mild 0psi+ als the oil temp went straight to 120celsius which is not good (running original 4x4 oilcooler)
And i had to remove the right lamp to get air that was cool enough to keep the antilag going, as it will cut if act is above 40degrees.
I do understand that water injection, big intercooler, proper oilcooler and a cold air intake for the airfilter is necessary, but are there anything else that could help?
Is the exhaust valves a weak point? if so what items can replace the original ones?
31-10-2006, 09:33 AM
#98
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Originally Posted by Mark_1
Any idea on how to keep the temperatures in the engine at minimum when running agressive als?
From my old engine when i was running mild 0psi+ als the oil temp went straight to 120celsius which is not good (running original 4x4 oilcooler)
And i had to remove the right lamp to get air that was cool enough to keep the antilag going, as it will cut if act is above 40degrees.
I do understand that water injection, big intercooler, proper oilcooler and a cold air intake for the airfilter is necessary, but are there anything else that could help?
Is the exhaust valves a weak point? if so what items can replace the original ones?
From my old engine when i was running mild 0psi+ als the oil temp went straight to 120celsius which is not good (running original 4x4 oilcooler)
And i had to remove the right lamp to get air that was cool enough to keep the antilag going, as it will cut if act is above 40degrees.
I do understand that water injection, big intercooler, proper oilcooler and a cold air intake for the airfilter is necessary, but are there anything else that could help?
Is the exhaust valves a weak point? if so what items can replace the original ones?
31-10-2006, 09:34 AM
#99
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Mods to the car to run antilag....talking rally car...
Segregated air box with a cold air feed..
Decent bar & plate intercooler.
Move the standard ACT sensor into the thottle body to prevent heat soak from the engine.
Water Injection - boost and temperature dependant
We run Laminova coolers on everything now to stabilise oil temps.
and lots of nimbus to sheild the heat.....
Decent ally rad.
Never had any trouble with exhaust valves..
Ian
Segregated air box with a cold air feed..
Decent bar & plate intercooler.
Move the standard ACT sensor into the thottle body to prevent heat soak from the engine.
Water Injection - boost and temperature dependant
We run Laminova coolers on everything now to stabilise oil temps.
and lots of nimbus to sheild the heat.....
Decent ally rad.
Never had any trouble with exhaust valves..
Ian
31-10-2006, 09:55 AM
#101
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Originally Posted by Franco
Originally Posted by sibster
and lots of nimbus to sheild the heat.....
its got fuck all to do with that
31-10-2006, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by Franco
Originally Posted by sibster
and lots of nimbus to sheild the heat.....
its got fuck all to do with that
31-10-2006, 10:03 AM
#105
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Originally Posted by Stavros
I remember nimbus's, i think
I remember the name, but forget what they were.
Were they just PCs?
Remember we had them BBC Micros, and Nimbus's
I remember the name, but forget what they were.
Were they just PCs?
Remember we had them BBC Micros, and Nimbus's
31-10-2006, 10:11 AM
#106
Originally Posted by sibster
Mods to the car to run antilag....talking rally car...
Segregated air box with a cold air feed..
Decent bar & plate intercooler.
Move the standard ACT sensor into the thottle body to prevent heat soak from the engine.
Water Injection - boost and temperature dependant
We run Laminova coolers on everything now to stabilise oil temps.
and lots of nimbus to sheild the heat.....
Decent ally rad.
Never had any trouble with exhaust valves..
Ian
Segregated air box with a cold air feed..
Decent bar & plate intercooler.
Move the standard ACT sensor into the thottle body to prevent heat soak from the engine.
Water Injection - boost and temperature dependant
We run Laminova coolers on everything now to stabilise oil temps.
and lots of nimbus to sheild the heat.....
Decent ally rad.
Never had any trouble with exhaust valves..
Ian
. IMO oil temps of 120°C is just about acceptible anyway (providing you use a good quality oil such as the Silkolene 10w50 ProS). You need at least 110°C to burn any excess water vapour off. If it went above 120°C, I would be looking at ways to bring this down to an acceptible level (110-115°C).
31-10-2006, 10:12 AM
#107
Originally Posted by sibster
Decent bar & plate intercooler.
Move the standard ACT sensor into the thottle body to prevent heat soak from the engine.
Ian
Move the standard ACT sensor into the thottle body to prevent heat soak from the engine.
Ian
Hmm what you mean about heat soak from the engine?
wont the act sensor give false information when placed on the otherside of the "butterfly"? as the conditions there are more friendlyer as this area constantly get fresh air from the ic?
31-10-2006, 10:13 AM
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PIN 14 to activate ALS on a P8. Can be found at the octane adjust connector on a standard loom.
Nobody has mentioned having a maram shaft fitted to their turbos for ALS. Are you all running standard turbos?
Another thing no-one has mentioned is the cat, if its still fitted its not gonna live long.
Nobody has mentioned having a maram shaft fitted to their turbos for ALS. Are you all running standard turbos?
Another thing no-one has mentioned is the cat, if its still fitted its not gonna live long.
31-10-2006, 10:18 AM
#109
Originally Posted by Mark_1
Originally Posted by sibster
Decent bar & plate intercooler.
Move the standard ACT sensor into the thottle body to prevent heat soak from the engine.
Ian
Move the standard ACT sensor into the thottle body to prevent heat soak from the engine.
Ian
Hmm what you mean about heat soak from the engine?
wont the act sensor give false information when placed on the otherside of the "butterfly"? as the conditions there are more friendlyer as this area constantly get fresh air from the ic?
No, by getting heat soak from the engine, it is giving false readings, by moving it to the throttle body / intercooler, you are showing the true ACTs.
31-10-2006, 10:21 AM
#110
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Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
PIN 14 to activate ALS on a P8. Can be found at the octane adjust connector on a standard loom.
Nobody has mentioned having a maram shaft fitted to their turbos for ALS. Are you all running standard turbos?
Another thing no-one has mentioned is the cat, if its still fitted its not gonna live long.
Nobody has mentioned having a maram shaft fitted to their turbos for ALS. Are you all running standard turbos?
Another thing no-one has mentioned is the cat, if its still fitted its not gonna live long.
but soon to upgrade
31-10-2006, 10:33 AM
#112
Originally Posted by lukeytheduke
that noise is amazing, heaven i would say! lol
(maybe i should lower the exhaust a bit)
thanks for answers mike and ian.
31-10-2006, 02:38 PM
#113
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Got you lot going with the Nimbus...its Space Shuttle heat reflection material....we have nearly full length under the car and around the brake master cylinders.....we have tried different kinds of wrap....most melts and nearly set a fire after a heavy session....
Bar & Plate....as Mike says is an alternative design of intercooler core, aint generally what you get from an aftermarket manufacturer its more expensive than the standard tube and fin configuration.
Maram shafted well I just assumed everyone knew you cant run a standard turbo with ALS but as Fraser says a standard item wont last long with serious ALS....
Got you lot going with the Nimbus...its Space Shuttle heat reflection material....we have nearly full length under the car and around the brake master cylinders.....we have tried different kinds of wrap....most melts and nearly set a fire after a heavy session....
Bar & Plate....as Mike says is an alternative design of intercooler core, aint generally what you get from an aftermarket manufacturer its more expensive than the standard tube and fin configuration.
Maram shafted well I just assumed everyone knew you cant run a standard turbo with ALS
but as Fraser says a standard item wont last long with serious ALS....
01-11-2006, 12:48 AM
#115
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
remember in school you had rm nimbus computers?
its got fuck all to do with that
But Nimbus are going back a good few years!! 
In fact I am using an RM laptop to send this right now in Dubai Airport hahaha
02-11-2006, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Guys how do I put a switch for on and off for this valve?
Connect one set of contacts in place of original ALS switch (this will tell the ECU whether to enable ALS or not). Connect one set of contacts in line with the ALS valve by cutting one of the wires (doesn't matter which one) going to the ALS valve (so that it breaks the circuit to the valve).
Wire the one coil terminal of the relay though the chosen ALS switch to 12v, connect the other coil terminal to chassis.
Method of operation:
When the ALS switch is off, the relay is un-energised therefor the valve has no power and the signal to the ECU disables ALS. When the ALS switch is on, the relay energises and connects the valve to power (via one set of contacts) and at the same time signals the ECU to enable the ALS.
Mikes whats this reving up business? does it apply to my P8 setup?
Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
PIN 14 to activate ALS on a P8. Can be found at the octane adjust connector on a standard loom.
02-11-2006, 04:08 PM
#118
Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Guys how do I put a switch for on and off for this valve?
Connect one set of contacts in place of original ALS switch (this will tell the ECU whether to enable ALS or not). Connect one set of contacts in line with the ALS valve by cutting one of the wires (doesn't matter which one) going to the ALS valve (so that it breaks the circuit to the valve).
Wire the one coil terminal of the relay though the chosen ALS switch to 12v, connect the other coil terminal to chassis.
Method of operation:
When the ALS switch is off, the relay is un-energised therefor the valve has no power and the signal to the ECU disables ALS. When the ALS switch is on, the relay energises and connects the valve to power (via one set of contacts) and at the same time signals the ECU to enable the ALS.
Mikes whats this reving up business? does it apply to my P8 setup?
Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
PIN 14 to activate ALS on a P8. Can be found at the octane adjust connector on a standard loom.
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02-11-2006, 06:17 PM
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Ok so in regards to adding these switches.. I know the pins but where do I actually run the wires from? straight from the actual ECU main connector or from where these wires trace to?