Main dealer hourly rates?
26-10-2006, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by purple_fiesta
Dont know about your place but PDI's are were the bonus moneys at at my place 
make the plates yourself. fit the plates, locking bolts mats etc then go and fuel it up on a road test. only time you can make some really good time on one is if you get a tracker to fit aswell. the new s class you have to plug the machine into it and if you havent checked something on the pdi it will bring up a fault.
26-10-2006, 11:20 PM
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some dont even move from the carpark when we do them
check the wheel bolts are tight, check levels under bonnet ect, tyre pressures, sticky pad the plates on, 1.8 hours!
check the wheel bolts are tight, check levels under bonnet ect, tyre pressures, sticky pad the plates on, 1.8 hours!
26-10-2006, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by purple_fiesta
some dont even move from the carpark when we do them
check the wheel bolts are tight, check levels under bonnet ect, tyre pressures, sticky pad the plates on, 1.8 hours!
check the wheel bolts are tight, check levels under bonnet ect, tyre pressures, sticky pad the plates on, 1.8 hours!
was an apprentice there just starting out so had no say really. always screwed the plates though, only cos i had a leccy screwdriver mercs you get 2.1, used to be 2.5 but they cut the time back
always give them a good check over though, for the sake of a bit of time saves a lot of shit if something is wrong with the car 
27-10-2006, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
my dealership ( closest to the city might i add !!!!) charges 95 per hour plus vat
the techs are not even close to well trained and fords are alot harder to work on
when i worked at volvo there techs had the EASIEST job as EVERYTHING on a volvo is found via there computer,,,,,,,, they just plug it in and there ya go
fords is trying to be like that but the pac's system aint as good
also everything on a volvo is a module, you ALWAYS have to buy software upgrades for everything,,,,, to turn off the day time running lights is 14 quid plus labour time
to change the window switches you have to buy software to program
THE FUCKING REAR VIEW MIRROR HAS SOFTWARE REQUIRED FOR WHEN THATS CHANGED TOO !!!!!
the techs at my place are really just fitters with 2 master techs who tbh are just arogant people who think they know everything,,,,,, but they just know what there told
the parts master tech at my place is the fucking NUTS, he remembers EVERYTHING and the techs ASK HIM when they cant sort a problem,,,, but hes been in the game for 20 years maybe more as i aint gota clue his age
hes also the most humble person alive who NEVER stops working,,,, hes not a quick worker but he just plods along and gets the job done THEN goes home
hence why he also closes up as he can work till 8pm doing stuff
the techs are not even close to well trained and fords are alot harder to work on
when i worked at volvo there techs had the EASIEST job as EVERYTHING on a volvo is found via there computer,,,,,,,, they just plug it in and there ya go
fords is trying to be like that but the pac's system aint as good
also everything on a volvo is a module, you ALWAYS have to buy software upgrades for everything,,,,, to turn off the day time running lights is 14 quid plus labour time
to change the window switches you have to buy software to program
THE FUCKING REAR VIEW MIRROR HAS SOFTWARE REQUIRED FOR WHEN THATS CHANGED TOO !!!!!
the techs at my place are really just fitters with 2 master techs who tbh are just arogant people who think they know everything,,,,,, but they just know what there told
the parts master tech at my place is the fucking NUTS, he remembers EVERYTHING and the techs ASK HIM when they cant sort a problem,,,, but hes been in the game for 20 years maybe more as i aint gota clue his age
hes also the most humble person alive who NEVER stops working,,,, hes not a quick worker but he just plods along and gets the job done THEN goes home
hence why he also closes up as he can work till 8pm doing stuff
.. 
27-10-2006, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhys
I meant to say the Key! not the car as i know every car can be pluged in
But the key stores info!! how cool is that
But the key stores info!! how cool is that
and a dealers card
I COULD GET A KEY CUT TO THAT CAR NOW HOW COOL IS THAT
.. times have changed thank god
..but you live and learn ...
27-10-2006, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich_w
And?
You can have the swishest building and all the equipment and a model of every car. But the training and the faults they put into cars to test people, are NEVER like the ones actual customers get. Customers and Technicians know these cars as they see every fault. Ivory towered training facilities, and Instructors who spend all day reminicing (sp?) and telling stories inbetween dragging out a day long course to 3 days dont compare to the "real world"
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27-10-2006, 11:35 AM
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We only charge £45+vat PH. Must be time to put teh prices up.
The problem with cars nowadays is, just go and stand in teh doorway of you local Main dealer, look around at your ramps, tools, machines, computers and tell me how much you think it may have actually COST to fit it out so teh mechanic can do the job for you.
I bet someone on here could give us a rough price to kit out a BMW workshop with 6 ramps and all the diagnostics, training for techs, receptionists, advertising, etc etc.
These are HUGE costs people, almost unreal when you start getting into it.
Then tell me their labour rate to try and recoup that cost it is over teh top. And yes, i agree technitions are NOT paid enough as its a highly skilled job indeed but sadly the people have all been tarred with the "Greese Monkey" name and image that is oh so hard to shake. I have always hated that stereotype with a passion and always will, and sadly i fear it keeps these lads wages down to an artificial level for teh skills involved.
The problem with cars nowadays is, just go and stand in teh doorway of you local Main dealer, look around at your ramps, tools, machines, computers and tell me how much you think it may have actually COST to fit it out so teh mechanic can do the job for you.
I bet someone on here could give us a rough price to kit out a BMW workshop with 6 ramps and all the diagnostics, training for techs, receptionists, advertising, etc etc.
These are HUGE costs people, almost unreal when you start getting into it.
Then tell me their labour rate to try and recoup that cost it is over teh top. And yes, i agree technitions are NOT paid enough as its a highly skilled job indeed but sadly the people have all been tarred with the "Greese Monkey" name and image that is oh so hard to shake. I have always hated that stereotype with a passion and always will, and sadly i fear it keeps these lads wages down to an artificial level for teh skills involved.
27-10-2006, 02:45 PM
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Ouch, were you get that figure from? Can understand big dealers but even small ones? My local is ncie, got big glass pain in the show room so you can see the workshop people working on the cars.
27-10-2006, 04:59 PM
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Yes they make money at the dealership but it is MANY years before you get a return on your investment.
Most people are too short sighted to understand one simple word in business - OVERHEADS!
It costs a fortune to sell and service cars and most of that has to come from the hourly rate they charge!
Alex
Yes they make money at the dealership but it is MANY years before you get a return on your investment.
Most people are too short sighted to understand one simple word in business - OVERHEADS!
It costs a fortune to sell and service cars and most of that has to come from the hourly rate they charge!
Alex
27-10-2006, 05:19 PM
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You cannot compare how much a business charges per hour to how muc ha single employee gets... EVERYONE and EVERYTHING has to be covered plus profits..
EVERYONE and EVERYTHING has to be covered plus profits..
27-10-2006, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DanCossie
Originally Posted by James
I'm fairly sure the new vw passat is like that?
dancossie how is level 1/2/3 worked out is it simply what qualifications you've got? i.e. level 1/2/3 nvq/city&guilds?
i *think* vospers for charge £40 p/h.
It's interesting that people are saying new fords a arse to work on, i thought it was just me being a spastic
dancossie how is level 1/2/3 worked out is it simply what qualifications you've got? i.e. level 1/2/3 nvq/city&guilds?
i *think* vospers for charge £40 p/h.
It's interesting that people are saying new fords a arse to work on, i thought it was just me being a spastic
Also not sure if some people know
You HAVE TO BE AUDI LICENSED before you can even undo a screw on an Audi....each car has its own license too
re: the people working for merc, 1.8 hours to do a pdi?! at ford we get 0.75 to do a 64 point check/pdi. Although they're not test-driven/filled with fuel/plates fitted.
27-10-2006, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DanCossie
Also not sure if some people know
You HAVE TO BE AUDI LICENSED before you can even undo a screw on an Audi....each car has its own license too
You HAVE TO BE AUDI LICENSED before you can even undo a screw on an Audi....each car has its own license too
Not strictly true that. Mate (whose Audi) says its only on the High end stuff. So RS4/6 Q7 and A8
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27-10-2006, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhys
Alan only thing is you gotta drive 100miles to nearist dealer jk
jkHuge effort but really appreciate the efforts of my mate's g/f and the tuner to accomodate
27-10-2006, 09:32 PM
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PMSL doh. When the BMW was serviced i helped myself to free Coffee Latte and a jam and cream doughnut and read the times paper while i waited for them to carry the service out.
Next service will deffo book it in advanced though so i can get a courtesy car!
Next service will deffo book it in advanced though so i can get a courtesy car!
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