genuine question about Veil
#42
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Oh and another thing that REALLY takes the piss..
When we went into Afghanistan to remove the taliban...the women were fed up with being beaten by the taliban and BEING FORCED to wear full veils.... Now they are saying they want to wear them.... Ya cant fooking win...
When we went into Afghanistan to remove the taliban...the women were fed up with being beaten by the taliban and BEING FORCED to wear full veils.... Now they are saying they want to wear them.... Ya cant fooking win...
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true.
look people can think what they think of me. yes i am sick to death of the shit in this country. and I'm sure many many others are too. the reason people/i get annoyed with it all is its one rule for some people and one rule for others. if you say something and nothing gets done then its racist and people are being discriminated. but if things where the other way then you would get laughed at.
if you went to another persons country you abide by there laws etc (that's fair). but it seems when people come here you have to change things for them.
i might seem like I'm racist but fuck i am not! I'm just one unhappy person about the way that people/this country is getting treated.
for instance cant fly st George flag in some places. cause it seems offensive.. i mean fucking hell people...that's England's flag. if someone said that to a welsh, Scottish or Irish person or any other country I'm sure i would get a good shoeing.
asylum seekers getting priority over UK people on housing.. that's another thing thats fucking annoying...the list goes on of things.
you can tell people aren't happy just by the posts on here i mean all races and religions.
the government don't help. there all cunts..simple
the end of the day, our yes OUR yours and mine (every UK person) country is getting raped from the inside and it fucking pisses me off cause we cant do anything. that's why u get riots that's why you get confused people doing things harsh to people and places. its not nice it really ain't. but its cause there pissed off and i cant blame them.
sorry but that's how i feel. i just think in short..its a very sad world that we now live in i didnt mean that to be harsh what i said either
cheers
look people can think what they think of me. yes i am sick to death of the shit in this country. and I'm sure many many others are too. the reason people/i get annoyed with it all is its one rule for some people and one rule for others. if you say something and nothing gets done then its racist and people are being discriminated. but if things where the other way then you would get laughed at.
if you went to another persons country you abide by there laws etc (that's fair). but it seems when people come here you have to change things for them.
i might seem like I'm racist but fuck i am not! I'm just one unhappy person about the way that people/this country is getting treated.
for instance cant fly st George flag in some places. cause it seems offensive.. i mean fucking hell people...that's England's flag. if someone said that to a welsh, Scottish or Irish person or any other country I'm sure i would get a good shoeing.
asylum seekers getting priority over UK people on housing.. that's another thing thats fucking annoying...the list goes on of things.
you can tell people aren't happy just by the posts on here i mean all races and religions.
the government don't help. there all cunts..simple
the end of the day, our yes OUR yours and mine (every UK person) country is getting raped from the inside and it fucking pisses me off cause we cant do anything. that's why u get riots that's why you get confused people doing things harsh to people and places. its not nice it really ain't. but its cause there pissed off and i cant blame them.
sorry but that's how i feel. i just think in short..its a very sad world that we now live in i didnt mean that to be harsh what i said either
cheers
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first it was the muslim men that got picked on (fair enough, if they were bombing etc) and now the females are getting picked on, what did they do?
its obvious we rather not have them here i can tell from the various posts on here, why dont know one just say that they shud all move out? i dont get it
i rekon we should kick them ALL out of the country if none of us like them, cos we seem to be picking on them, nitpicking etc etc
who's with me?
its obvious we rather not have them here i can tell from the various posts on here, why dont know one just say that they shud all move out? i dont get it
i rekon we should kick them ALL out of the country if none of us like them, cos we seem to be picking on them, nitpicking etc etc
who's with me?
#47
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I dont want it to an English only, white only country...no way. Mixed cultures etc makes a better place imo....but not when the piss is being taken by some...and nothing being done about it....
As for the veil. I really couldnt care less about religion...all i know is that this is the UK, and IMO the veil should be removed when going into shops, petrol stations, passport control, teachers and other people working in the public sector etc...
All imo of course and no doubt some penis will brand me a racist
As for the veil. I really couldnt care less about religion...all i know is that this is the UK, and IMO the veil should be removed when going into shops, petrol stations, passport control, teachers and other people working in the public sector etc...
All imo of course and no doubt some penis will brand me a racist
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i wouldnt brand you a racist, i dont think anyones done their research via google on the whole hijab/veil thing..
any way who cares? lets say what we feel, back to my post..whos with me?
any way who cares? lets say what we feel, back to my post..whos with me?
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Originally Posted by ultimate sleeper
first it was the muslim men that got picked on (fair enough, if they were bombing etc) and now the females are getting picked on, what did they do?
its obvious we rather not have them here i can tell from the various posts on here, why dont know one just say that they shud all move out? i dont get it
i rekon we should kick them ALL out of the country if none of us like them, cos we seem to be picking on them, nitpicking etc etc
who's with me?
its obvious we rather not have them here i can tell from the various posts on here, why dont know one just say that they shud all move out? i dont get it
i rekon we should kick them ALL out of the country if none of us like them, cos we seem to be picking on them, nitpicking etc etc
who's with me?
so you're just gonna boot my mrs out the country then? nice!
#52
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Originally Posted by Evil Diamonds
and it fucking pisses me off cause we cant do anything.
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Originally Posted by ultimate sleeper
first it was the muslim men that got picked on (fair enough, if they were bombing etc) and now the females are getting picked on, what did they do?
its obvious we rather not have them here i can tell from the various posts on here, why dont know one just say that they shud all move out? i dont get it
i rekon we should kick them ALL out of the country if none of us like them, cos we seem to be picking on them, nitpicking etc etc
who's with me?
its obvious we rather not have them here i can tell from the various posts on here, why dont know one just say that they shud all move out? i dont get it
i rekon we should kick them ALL out of the country if none of us like them, cos we seem to be picking on them, nitpicking etc etc
who's with me?
There doesnt seem to be any issue with the (awaits the PC tossers for the next word) Blacks that came to this country for employment, they came, worked and put up with alot of shit, and in some cases still do while trying to fit in,
The Poles have come over in the Mid and post War times, worked, fitted in, no problems apart from pig headed bigots,
All I want, and i think a majority, is for them to make an attempt to fit in OUR BRITISH SOCIETY, If they dont like it, the way out is next to the way in.
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Originally Posted by Evil Diamonds
true.
for instance cant fly st George flag in some places. cause it seems offensive.. i mean fucking hell people...that's England's flag. if someone said that to a welsh, Scottish or Irish person or any other country I'm sure i would get a good shoeing.
for instance cant fly st George flag in some places. cause it seems offensive.. i mean fucking hell people...that's England's flag. if someone said that to a welsh, Scottish or Irish person or any other country I'm sure i would get a good shoeing.
Approaching 300 years of colonial imperialism in our own country, and some people still think independence is a bad idea!!!
#59
this pisses me off - how its ok for muslims to walk round in veils yet its not ok for british people to walk around wearing bike helmets, or even hoodies that just cover your head and not your face.
I think we should all start wearing these, imagine how outraged the muslim community would be...
I think we should all start wearing these, imagine how outraged the muslim community would be...
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Originally Posted by Porsche911r101
this pisses me off - how its ok for muslims to walk round in veils yet its not ok for british people to walk around wearing bike helmets, or even hoodies that just cover your head and not your face.
I think we should all start wearing these, imagine how outraged the muslim community would be...
I think we should all start wearing these, imagine how outraged the muslim community would be...
where can you get em from
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Originally Posted by Iain Mac
Approaching 300 years of colonial imperialism in our own country, and some people still think independence is a bad idea!!!
#62
Re: genuine question about Veil
Originally Posted by Westy
unfortunately I dont know too much about why muslim women wear veils etc...
So was just wondering, if they were to go on holiday.. what happens at Passport control?? as for all we know, it could be a man behind ??
So was just wondering, if they were to go on holiday.. what happens at Passport control?? as for all we know, it could be a man behind ??
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Originally Posted by Porsche911r101
this pisses me off - how its ok for muslims to walk round in veils yet its not ok for british people to walk around wearing bike helmets, or even hoodies that just cover your head and not your face.
I think we should all start wearing these, imagine how outraged the muslim community would be...
I think we should all start wearing these, imagine how outraged the muslim community would be...
#64
I do think it's all abit bollocks really. Personally I think Jack Straw was right on with what he said, but maybe he wasn't as tactfull about it as he could have been.
Now I am not one to tell someone what religion they can and can't belive in, nor that they can or can't follow the religious rules etc, but this veil thing does take the piss - purely one point is it is damn rude! Fuck, it's rude to wear SUNGLASSES when talking to someone, let alone a full face/body mask!
The airport security thing is also complete bollox - I don't give a shit if it's your religion etc that says you must wear a veil - in a high risk environment like an airport, or a bank for that matter, you should un-veil so as to not cause suspicion or worry. Simple as that. I would rather you feel a bit uncorfortable for an hour or so in an airport cos you have to unveil, than me feel uncomfortable for my entire flight as I don't have a clue who is under the head mask in the seat behind me!
I also think it's off that these people want/claim our human rights and want the same things we have, yet refuse to conform to the way our society is. Thats not right. If you want to be a British citizen then you have to conform to the rules and regs of Britishi citizenship.
Same as if I want to become an American citizen, I have to do it "their way"... It ain't fucking rocket science is it?!??!?!!!?!?!
They are, apparently, sick of being excluded, treated as different and secluded as minoirties, yet then go ahead and segregate themselves from "normal" society with a visual barrier. I mean come on! Use your fucking loaf!
Rant over.
Now I am not one to tell someone what religion they can and can't belive in, nor that they can or can't follow the religious rules etc, but this veil thing does take the piss - purely one point is it is damn rude! Fuck, it's rude to wear SUNGLASSES when talking to someone, let alone a full face/body mask!
The airport security thing is also complete bollox - I don't give a shit if it's your religion etc that says you must wear a veil - in a high risk environment like an airport, or a bank for that matter, you should un-veil so as to not cause suspicion or worry. Simple as that. I would rather you feel a bit uncorfortable for an hour or so in an airport cos you have to unveil, than me feel uncomfortable for my entire flight as I don't have a clue who is under the head mask in the seat behind me!
I also think it's off that these people want/claim our human rights and want the same things we have, yet refuse to conform to the way our society is. Thats not right. If you want to be a British citizen then you have to conform to the rules and regs of Britishi citizenship.
Same as if I want to become an American citizen, I have to do it "their way"... It ain't fucking rocket science is it?!??!?!!!?!?!
They are, apparently, sick of being excluded, treated as different and secluded as minoirties, yet then go ahead and segregate themselves from "normal" society with a visual barrier. I mean come on! Use your fucking loaf!
Rant over.
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Re: genuine question about Veil
Originally Posted by CJBear
Originally Posted by Westy
unfortunately I dont know too much about why muslim women wear veils etc...
So was just wondering, if they were to go on holiday.. what happens at Passport control?? as for all we know, it could be a man behind ??
So was just wondering, if they were to go on holiday.. what happens at Passport control?? as for all we know, it could be a man behind ??
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Originally Posted by Thrush
I do think it's all abit bollocks really. Personally I think Jack Straw was right on with what he said, but maybe he wasn't as tactfull about it as he could have been.
Now I am not one to tell someone what religion they can and can't belive in, nor that they can or can't follow the religious rules etc, but this veil thing does take the piss - purely one point is it is damn rude! Fuck, it's rude to wear SUNGLASSES when talking to someone, let alone a full face/body mask!
The airport security thing is also complete bollox - I don't give a shit if it's your religion etc that says you must wear a veil - in a high risk environment like an airport, or a bank for that matter, you should un-veil so as to not cause suspicion or worry. Simple as that. I would rather you feel a bit uncorfortable for an hour or so in an airport cos you have to unveil, than me feel uncomfortable for my entire flight as I don't have a clue who is under the head mask in the seat behind me!
I also think it's off that these people want/claim our human rights and want the same things we have, yet refuse to conform to the way our society is. Thats not right. If you want to be a British citizen then you have to conform to the rules and regs of Britishi citizenship.
Same as if I want to become an American citizen, I have to do it "their way"... It ain't fucking rocket science is it?!??!?!!!?!?!
They are, apparently, sick of being excluded, treated as different and secluded as minoirties, yet then go ahead and segregate themselves from "normal" society with a visual barrier. I mean come on! Use your fucking loaf!
Rant over.
Now I am not one to tell someone what religion they can and can't belive in, nor that they can or can't follow the religious rules etc, but this veil thing does take the piss - purely one point is it is damn rude! Fuck, it's rude to wear SUNGLASSES when talking to someone, let alone a full face/body mask!
The airport security thing is also complete bollox - I don't give a shit if it's your religion etc that says you must wear a veil - in a high risk environment like an airport, or a bank for that matter, you should un-veil so as to not cause suspicion or worry. Simple as that. I would rather you feel a bit uncorfortable for an hour or so in an airport cos you have to unveil, than me feel uncomfortable for my entire flight as I don't have a clue who is under the head mask in the seat behind me!
I also think it's off that these people want/claim our human rights and want the same things we have, yet refuse to conform to the way our society is. Thats not right. If you want to be a British citizen then you have to conform to the rules and regs of Britishi citizenship.
Same as if I want to become an American citizen, I have to do it "their way"... It ain't fucking rocket science is it?!??!?!!!?!?!
They are, apparently, sick of being excluded, treated as different and secluded as minoirties, yet then go ahead and segregate themselves from "normal" society with a visual barrier. I mean come on! Use your fucking loaf!
Rant over.
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Originally Posted by Alex zvh cabrio
will this country ever be what it used to be? or get any better?
NOT until they bring back medievil punishment etc
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imo they dont have any bobbys on the beat any more thats the trouble
only the fake wanabe onces
does any one tune in to talk sport from 10-1 and listen to john gount i would vote him in to be pm he soon have the great back in to the once lost country
only the fake wanabe onces
does any one tune in to talk sport from 10-1 and listen to john gount i would vote him in to be pm he soon have the great back in to the once lost country
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its true this country need to go back to some old day routines.
IMHO these would work.
national services
death penalties for some crimes (murder, etc)... FUCK the human rights bollox if some one is defo 110% guilty!
castrated if ya a peado or rapist...gonna take the urge away a bit aint it lol
and let coppers/teachers/parents be able to give a slap every now and then like the old days. some of these pricks you see mouthing of coppers, teachers etc need a fucking slap to be put back in there place.
and anyone found with a weapon should get a fucked too.
just my view
IMHO these would work.
national services
death penalties for some crimes (murder, etc)... FUCK the human rights bollox if some one is defo 110% guilty!
castrated if ya a peado or rapist...gonna take the urge away a bit aint it lol
and let coppers/teachers/parents be able to give a slap every now and then like the old days. some of these pricks you see mouthing of coppers, teachers etc need a fucking slap to be put back in there place.
and anyone found with a weapon should get a fucked too.
just my view
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Originally Posted by Thrush
I do think it's all abit bollocks really. Personally I think Jack Straw was right on with what he said, but maybe he wasn't as tactfull about it as he could have been.
Now I am not one to tell someone what religion they can and can't belive in, nor that they can or can't follow the religious rules etc, but this veil thing does take the piss - purely one point is it is damn rude! Fuck, it's rude to wear SUNGLASSES when talking to someone, let alone a full face/body mask!
The airport security thing is also complete bollox - I don't give a shit if it's your religion etc that says you must wear a veil - in a high risk environment like an airport, or a bank for that matter, you should un-veil so as to not cause suspicion or worry. Simple as that. I would rather you feel a bit uncorfortable for an hour or so in an airport cos you have to unveil, than me feel uncomfortable for my entire flight as I don't have a clue who is under the head mask in the seat behind me!
I also think it's off that these people want/claim our human rights and want the same things we have, yet refuse to conform to the way our society is. Thats not right. If you want to be a British citizen then you have to conform to the rules and regs of Britishi citizenship.
Same as if I want to become an American citizen, I have to do it "their way"... It ain't fucking rocket science is it?!??!?!!!?!?!
They are, apparently, sick of being excluded, treated as different and secluded as minoirties, yet then go ahead and segregate themselves from "normal" society with a visual barrier. I mean come on! Use your fucking loaf!
Rant over.
Now I am not one to tell someone what religion they can and can't belive in, nor that they can or can't follow the religious rules etc, but this veil thing does take the piss - purely one point is it is damn rude! Fuck, it's rude to wear SUNGLASSES when talking to someone, let alone a full face/body mask!
The airport security thing is also complete bollox - I don't give a shit if it's your religion etc that says you must wear a veil - in a high risk environment like an airport, or a bank for that matter, you should un-veil so as to not cause suspicion or worry. Simple as that. I would rather you feel a bit uncorfortable for an hour or so in an airport cos you have to unveil, than me feel uncomfortable for my entire flight as I don't have a clue who is under the head mask in the seat behind me!
I also think it's off that these people want/claim our human rights and want the same things we have, yet refuse to conform to the way our society is. Thats not right. If you want to be a British citizen then you have to conform to the rules and regs of Britishi citizenship.
Same as if I want to become an American citizen, I have to do it "their way"... It ain't fucking rocket science is it?!??!?!!!?!?!
They are, apparently, sick of being excluded, treated as different and secluded as minoirties, yet then go ahead and segregate themselves from "normal" society with a visual barrier. I mean come on! Use your fucking loaf!
Rant over.
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