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Old 14-10-2006, 10:46 AM
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any 1 know where u could find a
gartrac escort rst??

am thinking about having one instead of a cossie,
Old 14-10-2006, 02:23 PM
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when you say GARTRAC rst do you mean rs turbo??
cos the only GARTRAC road cars i ever saw had 2.0 pintos or
v6's usually out of a capri or xr4i,or a cossie yb
some even had the original donkey pulled out and a yb put
in as the v6's could be troublesome...
they were sometimes referred to as a GARTRAC G3 or G4x4
saw quite a few on q plates but many were like that
Old 23-11-2006, 06:50 PM
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hello mate ,

I have 2 rear wheel drive converted Mk 4 escorts , both fresh builds , call for info ,
Old 23-11-2006, 06:51 PM
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thought gartrac were s2 with cossie engine and running gear and 2wd, bought vbrand new and converrted by gartrac
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Basicly gartrac back in the day did all the major works and strengthening on Mk 1 and 2 escorts ,

When the mk 3 came arounfd , and being FWD they converted them to run rear wheel dribe , engines varied from 1.6 pinto to V6 Cologne,

they diod a lot of rally cross cars ( called the G3 ) and kicked ass all the way upto the mid ninties,

they also did a road going version for sale to the public called the G3 , this had a V6 in it ,

i have seen Genuine gartrac coverted Mk 3 and Mk 4's , including 2 cabbys , both Mk 4

a lot of people who have a rear wheel drive Mk 3 or 4 , will call it a gartrac, but home done jobs , ( no matter how well done ) and the Genisis cars that are around ( i have one ) will never be a gartrac ,

Ł35k build for a gartrac shell , inc cage ad pedle box ,

They are seriously special cars , and dont suite the pocket of your average ford/chav/time wasting owner ( not i said owner and not enthusiast )

regards , lee
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Basicly gartrac back in the day did all the major works and strengthening on Mk 1 and 2 escorts ,

When the mk 3 came around , and being FWD they converted them to run rear wheel dribe , engines varied from 1.6 pinto to V6 Cologne,

they diod a lot of rally cross cars ( called the G3 ) and kicked ass all the way upto the mid ninties,

they also did a road going version for sale to the public called the G6, this had a V6 in it ,

i have seen Genuine gartrac coverted Mk 3 and Mk 4's , including 2 cabbys , both Mk 4

a lot of people who have a rear wheel drive Mk 3 or 4 , will call it a gartrac, but home done jobs , ( no matter how well done ) and the Genisis cars that are around ( i have one ) will never be a gartrac ,

Ł35k build for a gartrac shell , inc cage ad pedle box ,

They are seriously special cars , and dont suite the pocket of your average ford/chav/time wasting owner ( not i said owner and not enthusiast )

regards , lee
Old 23-11-2006, 07:07 PM
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Ebay or www.rallyusedparts.co.uk is the best place to find one
Old 23-11-2006, 07:36 PM
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im right in saying they did some with cossie lumps, im sure ive got some old skool pics somewhere
Old 23-11-2006, 07:44 PM
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Get some pics up then guys

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My old Gartrac G6.....2.8 V6 Cologne turbo 4 x 4:

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Old 23-11-2006, 08:08 PM
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Really nice mate. Lovin that !!

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Old 23-11-2006, 08:15 PM
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theres was a gartrac S2 in fast ford about a year ago with 4x4 cossie lump and running gear pushing bout 400bhp but the new owner broke it and sold it in bits
Old 23-11-2006, 09:21 PM
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my mate did give me a number for someone with a mk3 gartrac a year or more ago,i never did call him,as i think he was dreaming on the price.i will try to find out if the car is still about.
Old 23-11-2006, 09:41 PM
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anyone got any pics of the mk 3 ( g3 )

would love to see 1
Old 24-11-2006, 06:25 AM
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i think spadge bought the s2 that was in fast ford,pretty sure it wasnt a genuine gartrac.it had a argument with a lampost and lost,thats why it was broken for spares.i have a s2 with cos engine,home built so not a gartrac.
Old 24-11-2006, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Daz-rst
theres was a gartrac S2 in fast ford about a year ago with 4x4 cossie lump and running gear pushing bout 400bhp but the new owner broke it and sold it in bits
that wasnt a gartrac mate, it was a home build jobby that spadge bought

if you look under the bonnet and back end of the gartracs, genuines from what i have seen use either mk1 or mk2 suspension points

i.e front inner wings and a complete leaf spring rear set up

most home built ones use the complete floor pan and engine bay off a sierra to do it

i phoned gartrac a few ago when i was looking into it and they will still do a shell, but looking at the 6k mark but that was with the kevlar wide arch kit aswell

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Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
........that wasnt a gartrac mate, it was a home build jobby that spadge bought

if you look under the bonnet and back end of the gartracs, genuines from what i have seen use either mk1 or mk2 suspension points
i.e front inner wings and a complete leaf spring rear set up
most home built ones use the complete floor pan and engine bay off a sierra to do it
In later years Gartrac produced RWD & 4WD Mk4/5 Escort bodyshells with the Sierra rear beam/trailing arm set-up, and front suspension/crossmember also from the Sierra..............My one was this type (as well as Gartrac's own red "demo" car).

The Reynolds brothers (Enfield) purchased the first Gartrac RWD Escort shell built ready to accept ALL Sierra (Cossie) running gear - that car was a Cabrio fitted with the extra wide rallycross wings..........it was 500 BHP Cossie powered too.
Old 24-11-2006, 11:23 AM
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i remember the rs500 cabriolet Doug and yours too,
now i know why your face reminds me, i remember the silver one
and when the rs 500 cab got nicked and recovered it made a reapearance
with a normal cosworth yb, still looked good though.
what happened to the azure blue one if you don't mind me asking
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
i remember the rs500 cabriolet Doug and yours too,
now i know why your face reminds me, i remember the silver one
and when the rs 500 cab got nicked and recovered it made a reapearance
with a normal cosworth yb, still looked good though.
what happened to the azure blue one if you don't mind me asking
OK, some good information there.........

I had TWO Azure Blue Gartrac G6.............One was RWD with a standard 2.8 cologne V6.....this had the single leaf sprung rear end, and at the same time I also had the 4x4 one pictured above...........Both were painted by John Welch in Fleet (he was a friend of Martin's in your avatar ).

Around the Guildford/Hampton/Kingston area (Surrey), there we're quite a few G6 Gartrac's.........Also Roland Dane at the XR centre in Byfleet used to buy the converted shells from Gartrac and Dennis Tyler (mechanic) would build them into completed cars to the customers spec
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Love the GARTRAC's
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I've been in a genesis RWD Mk4 Stage 1 cossied escort and it was ace

It was for sale up north in scotland and i viewed it for someone. Wonder where it is now. It was dark green IIRC.
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Hang on...................

Mr know-it-all / quizz answer wizzard SMIT is on line

Question for Smit or anybody else:

How did the company name "GARTRAC" come about?
Old 24-11-2006, 12:59 PM
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I Don't know...

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Give us 5 mins got a book in my bedroom which i think has a section on Gartrac and it's history...
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Originally Posted by Smit
Give us 5 mins got a book in my bedroom which i think has a section on Gartrac and it's history...
Thats cheating

Think Cosworth..........then think "Gartrac" and the names of the son and the daughter of the companys two co-founders
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Nope no good...D'oh!

And it's not in any of your 5 old quiz's. Damn you Doug!
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me me me doug!!!!!!!!

easy its gary and tracy

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1st gartrac rwd mk3 escort
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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
Originally Posted by cozzfather
i remember the rs500 cabriolet Doug and yours too,
now i know why your face reminds me, i remember the silver one
and when the rs 500 cab got nicked and recovered it made a reapearance
with a normal cosworth yb, still looked good though.
what happened to the azure blue one if you don't mind me asking
OK, some good information there.........

I had TWO Azure Blue Gartrac G6.............One was RWD with a standard 2.8 cologne V6.....this had the single leaf sprung rear end, and at the same time I also had the 4x4 one pictured above...........Both were painted by John Welch in Fleet (he was a friend of Martin's in your avatar ).

Around the Guildford/Hampton/Kingston area (Surrey), there we're quite a few G6 Gartrac's.........Also Roland Dane at the XR centre in Byfleet used to buy the converted shells from Gartrac and Dennis Tyler (mechanic) would build them into completed cars to the customers spec
its coming back to me doug, john welch was sponsored by xr centre
his car was a sister car to MR Rallycross.
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Gary and Tracy

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D'oh! Beaten to it.

A couple of ex-gartrac employees also set up in Hertford and were knocking out various Mk4s a few years ago.

Daves son is doing a lot with the business (Gartrac) now, and they're still turning out top, top spec work

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Originally Posted by PF Ben
D'oh! Beaten to it.
yep with a avatar like mine you know your gonna get beaten to it
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Here are some pics of a G6 gartrack i have been working on for a customer.

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Gartrac mk5?!?!?!

PICS! NOW!
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
i remember the silver one
that is the silver one ,it has been in at least 1 car mag iirc
Old 25-11-2006, 10:00 PM
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Chop the car you mention,is one i sourced from london area for david,the guy he sold it to,lost his life in a rta with it (rip)


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