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Old 12-10-2006, 11:57 AM
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how many of these were produced?

these were a new homologation in 1997 wernt they and 300bhp in road trim?? with wrc spoiler bumper and front wings?? +18"

does any one on here own an original one??

no one seems to talk about them much

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i have old ford broshure with pic of silver one in just dosent say much about it
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they was homologation on the escort cosworth

road trim? nar all full blown rally machines
Old 12-10-2006, 03:10 PM
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ME THINKS YOU IS CONFUSED....??
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pics?????
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but they had to homologate them to use in the wrc, so therefore some road examples ust have been made????!!

i have a model of the car also

i will try scan in the pic i have tomo and post it up

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How many WRC Focus road cars do you see about? Ford(boreham) did produce some unlivered cars, the silver one on the brochure but there were so many different variations done by the satelite teams and I dont think the satelite teams ever did any road cars...there were 30ish genuine WRC cars produced...only one genuine RHD car which was done by M-Sport for Eamon Boland....

WRC class cars

WRC class cars where introduced in 1997 following a FIA decision. Experience has proven that to win the WRC title a car has to be full time 4WD and, to a lesser extend, use a 2lt turbocharged engine. Not all manufacturers have (or are willing to have) such models in their line up. Additionally mass producing such cars, as "homologation specials", is a risky financial adventure. This class of cars was thus introduced to allow any manufacturer to take part in the WRC with equal chances to success. The WRC class cars have to be produced to very limited numbers in order to get the required FIA homologation. Production numbers can be kept below 50 units (better still than back in the old Group B days where 200 units had to be produced). The typical WRC class car is based upon a large volume production model to which a manufacturer can modify or add the following:

Modified front and rear suspension layout and attachment points

Add-on turbocharger even if the production car does not have one

Modified transmission and additional transmission tunnels in order to fit a 4x4 transmission even if the production car is 2 wheel drive. Consequently differentials and gear box are free.

Modified engine intake and exhaust systems

Modified engine position (the engine can be relocated by a maximum of 20mm as compared to its original position and can be tilted by 20° around the crankshaft axis)

Modified wheelbase (±20mm) and track widths (1550mm max)

The maximum car width allowed is 1770 mm

Minimum length of 4000mm

Apart from the rules above the WRC class cars have to comply to the same rules as Group A class cars and are effectively their successors only modified to a greater extent. The WRC Class regulations allowed Subaru to produce the WRC version of the Impreza, Ford to produce the WRC Escort and Focus WRC, Peugeot the 206 WRC and Toyota the Corolla WRC. Subaru was at the origin of the new FIA regulations.
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i know the cars your on about

all silver with the wrc kit etc, think they had teh roof vent aswell

but im sure these werent production cars as they didnt need any in that style or homologation purposes as they used the escos in wrc as it was with the whaletails etc so already had there numbers made so they could enter te wrc

then later on they just changed the design a bit for sum reason or other but didnt need to make them in road version

think thats rite
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Ive got the same ford brochure showing the silver WRC esc cos,
i thought it was to advertise the 'optional' kit you could have on it?
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SO you could not buy this wrc cossie as road car?

but surely private competitors bought some and might not have rallied them

??
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AFAIK you couldn't just buy an Esc WRC as a road...and if any had been bought by privateer teams I think they'd have been bought only as rally cars...

The Esc WRC and late Grp'A' car are so far removed from the Esc Cos, as is the Focus WRC from an everyday focus a road version would be impratical both in terms of cost and drivability...

The are in reality a selection of highly developed parts grafted in to the esc/focus bodyshell...

In fact a lot of all WRC share common parts all with the relevant builders slant, xtrac diffs, mountune engines, ohlins/reiger/dyamics dampers for example can be found on numerous WRC cars....
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With knowledge like the Sib anyone would think you had one
are you still coming down tomorrow?
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cheeRS for the info guys

just to put the 'road car' myth to death

here is my wrc escort ROAD CAR with full leather interior and 22" rims

so PAH

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Well goes to prove I know shite.... its even got jacking points....

Could do with some bigger brakes....
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it has mate drilled and grooved, alot larger than standard just the massive 22" ake them look small
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Originally Posted by sibster
How many WRC Focus road cars do you see about? Ford(boreham) did produce some unlivered cars, the silver one on the brochure but there were so many different variations done by the satelite teams and I dont think the satelite teams ever did any road cars...there were 30ish genuine WRC cars produced...only one genuine RHD car which was done by M-Sport for Eamon Boland....

WRC class cars

WRC class cars where introduced in 1997 following a FIA decision. Experience has proven that to win the WRC title a car has to be full time 4WD and, to a lesser extend, use a 2lt turbocharged engine. Not all manufacturers have (or are willing to have) such models in their line up. Additionally mass producing such cars, as "homologation specials", is a risky financial adventure. This class of cars was thus introduced to allow any manufacturer to take part in the WRC with equal chances to success. The WRC class cars have to be produced to very limited numbers in order to get the required FIA homologation. Production numbers can be kept below 50 units (better still than back in the old Group B days where 200 units had to be produced). The typical WRC class car is based upon a large volume production model to which a manufacturer can modify or add the following:

Modified front and rear suspension layout and attachment points

Add-on turbocharger even if the production car does not have one

Modified transmission and additional transmission tunnels in order to fit a 4x4 transmission even if the production car is 2 wheel drive. Consequently differentials and gear box are free.

Modified engine intake and exhaust systems

Modified engine position (the engine can be relocated by a maximum of 20mm as compared to its original position and can be tilted by 20° around the crankshaft axis)

Modified wheelbase (±20mm) and track widths (1550mm max)

The maximum car width allowed is 1770 mm

Minimum length of 4000mm

Apart from the rules above the WRC class cars have to comply to the same rules as Group A class cars and are effectively their successors only modified to a greater extent. The WRC Class regulations allowed Subaru to produce the WRC version of the Impreza, Ford to produce the WRC Escort and Focus WRC, Peugeot the 206 WRC and Toyota the Corolla WRC. Subaru was at the origin of the new FIA regulations.
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