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Old 08-10-2006 | 10:38 AM
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I have got my hands on this 6speed gearbox, how strong is it?
How about renovation and and spare parts?

Thanx
Old 08-10-2006 | 10:51 AM
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Some love em and some hate em.Scotty broke a brand new one on the start line of the handling course of TOTB this year and i helped him push the car away.Also the company has not got a good reputation on dealing with people.Don't really know how expensive they are for parts though.Still,if i was offered one at the right price i would have a go.
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Still,if i was offered one at the right price i would have a go.
Is 3.5K the right price?
Old 08-10-2006 | 10:57 AM
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I have got my hands on this 6speed gearbox, how strong is it?
How about renovation and and spare parts?

Thanx

Good luck with it
Old 08-10-2006 | 11:21 AM
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I have got my hands on this 6speed gearbox, how strong is it?
How about renovation and and spare parts?

Thanx

Good luck with it
says it all i think
Old 08-10-2006 | 11:31 AM
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[quote]allsteel wrote:
Still,if i was offered one at the right price i would have a go.


Is 3.5K the right price/quote]

No but 2.5k might be, (fitted of course)
Old 08-10-2006 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by marco polo
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I have got my hands on this 6speed gearbox, how strong is it?
How about renovation and and spare parts?

Thanx

Good luck with it
coz your going to need it!
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I have got my hands on this 6speed gearbox, how strong is it?
How about renovation and and spare parts?

Thanx

Good luck with it
coz your going to need it!
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Ok, the sum off it all says that i shoulden`t go with it

Thats ok then, i`ll just but me an ffd one instead then....
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ive an FFD for sale here.
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tf: sekuential or H?
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i run the 5 speed RnD in ford saloons this year with 620bhp and never broke it.
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i know RnD say they're 6speed over drive is better than the 6 speed direct top
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Originally Posted by cossiemanden
tf: sekuential or H?
7 speed h pattern with hand brake release.
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Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
Originally Posted by cossiemanden
tf: sekuential or H?
7 speed h pattern with hand brake release.
how much and what ratio's?
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
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tf: sekuential or H?
7 speed h pattern with hand brake release.
how much and what ratio's?
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This isnt afor sale post honest
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Originally Posted by carlo
This isnt afor sale post honest
hence my reply,and even if it was look at the side bar!!iam allowed.
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Do him a P/X on the R & D Tim.....

Got the plate today mate, many thanx....
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lol
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Originally Posted by sibster
Do him a P/X on the R & D Tim.....

Got the plate today mate, many thanx....
.4 of a kg on just one little thing like that as well,its amazing where weight can be saved,

have you weighed a group A rear bumper bracket!!



i have today.
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Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
Originally Posted by sibster
Do him a P/X on the R & D Tim.....

Got the plate today mate, many thanx....
.4 of a kg on just one little thing like that as well,its amazing where weight can be saved,

have you weighed a group A rear bumper bracket!!



i have today.
fookin ell tim dont start that ........................................ you'll be on the bacon slicer next
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the r&d seems to be fine for track as Andrew has said,I used mine at national day with no problems!different story when it comes to launching with big power!!the ffd comes with a big price tag when you consider the tunnel needs modding,starter motor etc etc
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Originally Posted by justin.e
the r&d seems to be fine for track as Andrew has said,I used mine at national day with no problems!different story when it comes to launching with big power!!the ffd comes with a big price tag when you consider the tunnel needs modding,starter motor etc etc
tunnel mods and starter motor?can you elaborate?
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Tim,
is the ffd a simple stick the box in or does it have a list of extras that are needed?
I was under the impression that a smaller starter motor needs to be used??
Old 10-10-2006 | 06:24 PM
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the starter on mine is standard 4x4,i have a high power group A one but have never used it or needed it in over 30 rallies,

the shell modification is very minor also,
Old 10-10-2006 | 06:38 PM
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Tim,
how about prop and clutch?
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props depend on your diffs a little bit but atre very simmilar to normal on the front but the rear bolts direct doing away with the rubber donut.

clutch is as you like,i use a 7.25 ap unit.
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do you see where Iam coming from?
for my own needs the r/d is fine 5k odd for new box and in it goes along with 6 paddle clutch.
how much for new ffd fitted??
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well steve scott had a new one fitted for ten of the best didnt he?it broke on the start line so i believe so it doesnt really matter if it breaks so soon how much it is does it?
a small saving for an unreliable,much more fragile unit,i cannnot see where your coming from at all to be honest.
the FFD was purpose built at great expense by ford,the mt75 "dog" boxes are just modified standard units that have very inherant problems and at the end of the day its finishes and reliability that counts,
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as I have already said big launches are a no no!scotty was running 500+brake with 100 nos on top that day!Andrew has run the box all year in the ford championship with no problems so your saying he should have spent more money when not needed
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Tim, do you know much much it would cost to convert the FFD from H to sequential? Out of interest only
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Jamie,

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Doh lol. Thanks Ian, I know you did tell me a while back, but lost all my PM's recently Think thats one modification that WONT be done lol
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What is a ffd?
I have an Escort cossy with 700+ bhp, I run with a fixit gearbox today.
Are R&d enough or what do you all recommend?
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Originally Posted by nirre78
What is a ffd?
I have an Escort cossy with 700+ bhp, I run with a fixit gearbox today.
Are R&d enough or what do you all recommend?

ffd are the gearbox used in the slightly later and the latest group a escort cosworth
i say slightly later ones as im not sure in which year they started to use the ffd box ...

im sure tim or ian can tell us what year they did change

ffd box comes with a price tag but is very strong ! all year the old man has used his with 600bhp and giving it near on full throttle launches and has been spot on !
it even took the abouse i through at it missed gears "cough cough"

r+d are not the strongest box but i think its all about how "kind" you are to them ...
andy gallacher has used his all year with big bhp and its been perfect as far as im aware ! he has even launched his car alot and still not broken it !

also the problem with ffd is the price when the rebuild comes along
however less rebuilts and a bit more money might work out better

good luck with what you choose
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ps: you can break ffd front props
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ps: you can break ffd front props
You can break ANY gearbox/diff/prop if your a complete ham fisted animal
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
You can break ANY gearbox/diff/prop if your a complete ham fisted animal
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Originally Posted by Benni
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