mk 5 xr3i need more bhp
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mk 5 xr3i need more bhp
so far ive put a stage 2 head on it withh pipercross fast road cams and veneir pulleys..... a power boost valve and stainless steel magnex exhaust from the cat back and a pipercross induction filter.... any ideas on more bhp.. i was considering nitrous.... and didnt know anything about superchargers as ive seen sum electronic ones on ebay.....
#2
them electronic s/c's are a plain rip off!!
pile of shit.
get a focus ST170 4-2-1 manifold and have the system fitted to it, de-cat while your at it
and then fit some throttle bodies
pile of shit.
get a focus ST170 4-2-1 manifold and have the system fitted to it, de-cat while your at it
and then fit some throttle bodies
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From: banjo country, Used To Be Spike_3_2
what other things could i do to increase power??? would it be woth taking the head off again to have it taken up to a stage 3?? and other litle tricks?
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#8
You can fit
throttle bodies
super charger
turbo
different gearbox gearing / final drive
strip the interiot of your car out
internal work on the engine
etc
All depends on funds
throttle bodies
super charger
turbo
different gearbox gearing / final drive
strip the interiot of your car out
internal work on the engine
etc
All depends on funds
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From: banjo country, Used To Be Spike_3_2
ive got a stage 2 head fitted would it be worth it having it uprated to a stage 3?? and whats the difference between stage 2 and stage 3?? and what has been done to a stage 2 head/?lol
#10
the st170 manifold is a direct fit to the head, i had the flange cut off mine and a reducer pipe welded on, then a flexible section of exhaust and then the normal system
benifits are its costs £170 from ford!
then get some gsxr motorbike throttle bodies and make em fit
you will need to improve the inlet before bothering to mod the head more.
mine made 182bhp on decked block, skimmed STD head, kent fast road inlet cam, st170 manifold, throttle bodies and SECS S8 engine management
i then sold the tb's to a guy with very similar spec engine and his was mapped properly where mine wasnt, it made 192bhp
benifits are its costs £170 from ford!
then get some gsxr motorbike throttle bodies and make em fit
you will need to improve the inlet before bothering to mod the head more.
mine made 182bhp on decked block, skimmed STD head, kent fast road inlet cam, st170 manifold, throttle bodies and SECS S8 engine management
i then sold the tb's to a guy with very similar spec engine and his was mapped properly where mine wasnt, it made 192bhp
#14
Seriously mate, don't spend another penny on the 1.8.
Even after a few £k on throttle bodies, exhaust manifold, etc.. you'll only ever go as fast as one fitted with a standard 2.0 engine.
I've owned 2 mk6's - one with a std. 2.0 zetec and the other with a 165bhp 1.8 zetec on throttle bodies, 4-2-1 inc. decat, etc...
Go forced induction with the 1.8, or swap to a 2.0 zetec mate.
Even after a few £k on throttle bodies, exhaust manifold, etc.. you'll only ever go as fast as one fitted with a standard 2.0 engine.
I've owned 2 mk6's - one with a std. 2.0 zetec and the other with a 165bhp 1.8 zetec on throttle bodies, 4-2-1 inc. decat, etc...
Go forced induction with the 1.8, or swap to a 2.0 zetec mate.
#15
Until you get near 200 bhp the 1.8 is not far off the 2.0 ltr in terms of power for mods, if done properly. Too many people waste money with chips and sh#te like that, do it once, do it properly.
Check out a company called Dunnell, they lead the way with the ZETEC.
Check out a company called Dunnell, they lead the way with the ZETEC.
#16
The 1.8 revs up much faster than the 2.0L and as wardy says not much difference between the 2 upto about 200BHP. Standard 2.)l made at most 136BHP and the 1.8 130 if you've got the decent spec one.
Not sure the ST170 Manifold will fit the 3i I have heard it fouls the starter motor on the MTX 75 Boxes.
Is your 105 or 130 spec 1.8? My 130 made 145 bhp with induction kit and magnex cat back now it's running Megasquirt GSXR TB's and a few other subtle mods, haven't had on the RR since fitting though
Not sure the ST170 Manifold will fit the 3i I have heard it fouls the starter motor on the MTX 75 Boxes.
Is your 105 or 130 spec 1.8? My 130 made 145 bhp with induction kit and magnex cat back now it's running Megasquirt GSXR TB's and a few other subtle mods, haven't had on the RR since fitting though
#17
Stu & Kenny at Motorsport Developments in blackpool set up my 1.8
And here is what result I got at a Fast Ford featured rolling road
Edit: as graph picture looks shite
157.9 @ the fly
120.8 @ the wheels
149.5 ft/lb
Here is my spec
Mapped evolution chip by MSD
Kent 1802 cams & vernier pulleys
Ashley 4-2-1 manifold with de-cat
Power boost valve (set up)
K&N Induction kit
Banshee induction S/S pipe
Magnex exhaust
2ltr Throttle body
And I run it on Shell Optimax/V Power
And here is what result I got at a Fast Ford featured rolling road
Edit: as graph picture looks shite
157.9 @ the fly
120.8 @ the wheels
149.5 ft/lb
Here is my spec
Mapped evolution chip by MSD
Kent 1802 cams & vernier pulleys
Ashley 4-2-1 manifold with de-cat
Power boost valve (set up)
K&N Induction kit
Banshee induction S/S pipe
Magnex exhaust
2ltr Throttle body
And I run it on Shell Optimax/V Power
#20
Originally Posted by MarkW
The 1.8 revs up much faster than the 2.0L and as wardy says not much difference between the 2 upto about 200BHP. Standard 2.)l made at most 136BHP and the 1.8 130 if you've got the decent spec one.
Is your 105 or 130 spec 1.8? My 130 made 145 bhp with induction kit and magnex cat back now it's running Megasquirt GSXR TB's and a few other subtle mods, haven't had on the RR since fitting though
Is your 105 or 130 spec 1.8? My 130 made 145 bhp with induction kit and magnex cat back now it's running Megasquirt GSXR TB's and a few other subtle mods, haven't had on the RR since fitting though
2.0 escorts can do high 15s 1/4 mile... where you'd do very well to get a 16s 1/4 in a 1.8 escort, even if it's a 130!
Also, I've owned a 1.8 which was tuned to 165bhp with Weber Alpha TB's, management, proper 4-2-1, well worked head, etc... This managed low 16 1/4s, as it still didn't make the torque of a standard 2.0L
#21
i done the whole 2.0L cams, throttle body, ECU donor to the 1.8L on mine and got just over 130bhp on the rollers, bought a st170 manifold and its too short for the engine it fouls the sump, i went on ebay and bought a de-cat pipe and manifold for £250 stainless steel, it really makes a difference, hope this helps
#22
Sorry mate, you obviously haven't been in a 2.0l escort! The difference is far more than you'd beleive by looking at the difference in bhp figures. How about you look at the torque on the 130 model, and compare this to the 2.0l torque
2.0 escorts can do high 15s 1/4 mile... where you'd do very well to get a 16s 1/4 in a 1.8 escort, even if it's a 130!
Also, I've owned a 1.8 which was tuned to 165bhp with Weber Alpha TB's, management, proper 4-2-1, well worked head, etc... This managed low 16 1/4s, as it still didn't make the torque of a standard 2.0L
2.0 escorts can do high 15s 1/4 mile... where you'd do very well to get a 16s 1/4 in a 1.8 escort, even if it's a 130!
Also, I've owned a 1.8 which was tuned to 165bhp with Weber Alpha TB's, management, proper 4-2-1, well worked head, etc... This managed low 16 1/4s, as it still didn't make the torque of a standard 2.0L
#23
depends on how far you want to go and what you want to spend:
carbs are cheaper than throttle bodies but ultimatly give less power,
pistons, rods crank are very expensive but only realy need when the head is at its complete limit or if you are wanting 2.1l
lighten and balencing the bottom end will make it rev faster and feel like more power in the lower gears (theres a very complicated formula to work out how much difference the weight makes, like how much bhp would be needed to make it pull the same ircc)
turbo will give you more power but costs alot to get 220+
superchargers are rare and dont give that much power as standard
all depends on what power you want and how much youve got to spend.
carbs are cheaper than throttle bodies but ultimatly give less power,
pistons, rods crank are very expensive but only realy need when the head is at its complete limit or if you are wanting 2.1l
lighten and balencing the bottom end will make it rev faster and feel like more power in the lower gears (theres a very complicated formula to work out how much difference the weight makes, like how much bhp would be needed to make it pull the same ircc)
turbo will give you more power but costs alot to get 220+
superchargers are rare and dont give that much power as standard
all depends on what power you want and how much youve got to spend.
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