Oil Primimg Question
19-09-2006, 12:21 PM
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Oil Primimg Question
On SNET (I know 
) They swear by dis-connecting the crank sensor and turning the engine over to create oil pressure.
Also they swear by prefilling the filter.
Just wondered what people on here thought to this?
ESP Chip as he knows his shit with engines.
) They swear by dis-connecting the crank sensor and turning the engine over to create oil pressure.Also they swear by prefilling the filter.
Just wondered what people on here thought to this?
ESP Chip as he knows his shit with engines.
19-09-2006, 12:23 PM
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Re: Oil Primimg Question
Originally Posted by BatFink
On SNET (I know ) They swear by dis-connecting the crank sensor and turning the engine over to create oil pressure.
Also they swear by prefilling the filter.
Just wondered what people on here thought to this?
ESP Chip as he knows his shit with engines.
) They swear by dis-connecting the crank sensor and turning the engine over to create oil pressure.Also they swear by prefilling the filter.
Just wondered what people on here thought to this?
ESP Chip as he knows his shit with engines.
19-09-2006, 01:06 PM
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i always prime the pump before its fitted, fill the oil filter, disconnect the coil, or crank sensor, but you would need to check this wont log error codes in the ecu obviously this is dependant on car type.
then crank for a few seconds and oil pressure should be up.
re-check level and start.
then crank for a few seconds and oil pressure should be up.
re-check level and start.
19-09-2006, 01:26 PM
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Bat-fink why do you troll?
You go from this site to SN and just pick and poke between each???
As you pointed out already on SN you are only 15,so why dont you go back to school and leave things be.There's enough shit goes on between the Ford marque and the Subaru marque without you trolling for more.
You go from this site to SN and just pick and poke between each???
As you pointed out already on SN you are only 15,so why dont you go back to school and leave things be.There's enough shit goes on between the Ford marque and the Subaru marque without you trolling for more.
19-09-2006, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BatFink
I ain't trolling mate just wondering about things not a crime to have an interest is it?
Don't hate educate.
Don't hate educate.
You need to do more re-search because your facts are wrong,yet again.
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19-09-2006, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BatFink
Do a search mate quite a few people dis-connect it.
Just wondered what people on here thought.
Just wondered what people on here thought.
5 or 6 people??
20,000 people ?
you tell me as you have researched the topic.
19-09-2006, 01:47 PM
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Well i'll just pull the fuel pump fuse out.............Simple!
Give the wee lad some slack FFS, its a learning curve!
Anyway what about priming a brand new oil pump.......
I heard you can do the following:
Vasaline (in the old days)
Graphite grease
Pour oil in...........
What would you do.
Ps the pumps brand new!
Give the wee lad some slack FFS, its a learning curve!
Anyway what about priming a brand new oil pump.......
I heard you can do the following:
Vasaline (in the old days)
Graphite grease
Pour oil in...........
What would you do.
Ps the pumps brand new!
19-09-2006, 01:53 PM
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Agreed, but they put something ELSE in to help the pick up suction on start up? 
Must admit that sounds the easiest option..........
Just dont fancy fcuking up a new pump!
Must admit that sounds the easiest option..........
Just dont fancy fcuking up a new pump!
19-09-2006, 07:19 PM
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the best way on a yb is to leave out distributor on build and fit a small socket over the distributor drive. use a long extension and electric drill. saves even turning the engine over
19-09-2006, 07:54 PM
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i also use a drill for priming the pump and i always take the plugs out when cranking the engine so there is no compression and force on the shells ( within reason). i even do this after an oil change. 
19-09-2006, 08:03 PM
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The use of grease or vaseline is often used if there is sometime between building the engine and actually firing it up. It prevents the oil from draining out of the pump which happens if left for some time. When building A-series engines we always used to fill the pumps with STP, a lubricant which is like treacle so doesb't drain down. The pump is more accessible on most Ford engines so it's easier to prime the pump before startup.
19-09-2006, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PGT
the best way on a yb is to leave out distributor on build and fit a small socket over the distributor drive. use a long extension and electric drill. saves even turning the engine over
Has the same technique recommended to me by a well known and widely respected tuner, and his engines seem to work very well
Mine's still running using a similar method as well, but Phill2400 who built it spun the dizzy pulley on the front of the engine (17mm socket IIRC) to prime it up.
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19-09-2006, 10:13 PM
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when i rebuilt my escort i did prime the pump but only with oil,this was a mistake i pissed about for ages trying to get it to grab in the end i used about 12 litres of new oil to take the oil to the pump and within a couple of secs it started pissing out of the oil filter outlet
i then drained lots of oil which i used to run it in over 1000 miles (3 changes)
i then drained lots of oil which i used to run it in over 1000 miles (3 changes)
20-09-2006, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by S1
The use of grease or vaseline is often used if there is sometime between building the engine and actually firing it up. It prevents the oil from draining out of the pump which happens if left for some time. When building A-series engines we always used to fill the pumps with STP, a lubricant which is like treacle so doesb't drain down. The pump is more accessible on most Ford engines so it's easier to prime the pump before startup.
It'll be standing for a while before starting Paul.........Oh and the pump isnt that easy to get to on a 4x4 engine once assembled!!
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I'm sure thats what Rich (B9KOS) used on his rebuild!
20-09-2006, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SiB
Originally Posted by PGT
the best way on a yb is to leave out distributor on build and fit a small socket over the distributor drive. use a long extension and electric drill. saves even turning the engine over
Has the same technique recommended to me by a well known and widely respected tuner, and his engines seem to work very well
Mine's still running using a similar method as well, but Phill2400 who built it spun the dizzy pulley on the front of the engine (17mm socket IIRC) to prime it up.
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20-09-2006, 08:02 AM
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Vaseline/grease is used and packed in to the oil pump housing on gear type oil pumps, rover V8's etc
gear type oil pumps need packing to enable them to create suction the first time the engine is turned,
rotary oil pumps
generally only need oiling, then prime the pump as described before starting the engine....
gear type oil pumps need packing to enable them to create suction the first time the engine is turned,
rotary oil pumps
generally only need oiling, then prime the pump as described before starting the engine....
20-09-2006, 08:52 AM
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Actually now i remember someone mentioning rover engines........... Something to do with the lenght of the pick up pipe to the pump!
So fill as normal then, and rotate the engine by hand (drill)......
Just making sure i've worked this out correct as my engine will take a while before running / fitting after adding the new pump.
So fill as normal then, and rotate the engine by hand (drill)......
Just making sure i've worked this out correct as my engine will take a while before running / fitting after adding the new pump.
20-09-2006, 09:07 AM
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the best way on a yb is to leave out distributor on build and fit a small socket over the distributor drive. use a long extension and electric drill. saves even turning the engine over
20-09-2006, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by lead_foot
I've always packed gear type oil pumps with Vasaline and spun it with a power driver connected to the auxilliary pulley bolt, never had a problem.
20-09-2006, 09:31 AM
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Don't pre-fill the filter.
As the oil pump is looking to pick up its first lungfull of oil, it will be trying to push air out through the lubrication circuit.
Placing an oil filter full of oil in that route will impede the expulsion of that air
As the oil pump is looking to pick up its first lungfull of oil, it will be trying to push air out through the lubrication circuit.
Placing an oil filter full of oil in that route will impede the expulsion of that air
21-09-2006, 08:28 AM
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im building a ZT and the engine alone is costing about £5k
the oil pumps on them are the gear type, so should i pack it with loads of the grease i posted above when its assembled as the engine is going to be stood a fair while before the key is turned.
the oil pumps on them are the gear type, so should i pack it with loads of the grease i posted above when its assembled as the engine is going to be stood a fair while before the key is turned.
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