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Old 16-09-2006, 04:24 PM
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Default just had a so-called expert view the rs500 for his mate

oh dear.........................

my car apparently needs £3000 worth of paint!


now to me the selling point of my car is the fact that its a very quick good spec cossie,not a concours car.

never even asked to go out in it

but said he knows how quick it will be...................

gone away to think about it-easier to just keep it me thinks.
Old 16-09-2006, 04:27 PM
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o dearie me
Old 16-09-2006, 04:28 PM
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thers one born every minute,gone away to think about youn think about it when you arrabge to see it,anyone whos says thst just aint coming back,why dont people just be honest and say"sorry its not for me"
Old 16-09-2006, 04:41 PM
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Fook em Jay. Yours is one of the nicest driving 500s around, and thats teh gods honest truth from one of teh few people in the current RS scene who has actually driven a LOT of different 500s and can therefore speak from experience of them.

The right buyer will buy it mate, fook the rest of the gobshites. This is why my car hasnt actually been advertised for sale yet as i cant be arsed dealing with fooking idiots like this in my spare time.
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thing is Jay, its a very rare market for the rs500, people want the best car available,i don't think the engine will sell this car imo, may be better putting the lower spec engine in and selling the big one and lowering the price a bit.

all imo.
Old 16-09-2006, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
thing is Jay, its a very rare market for the rs500, people want the best car available,i don't think the engine will sell this car imo, may be better putting the lower spec engine in and selling the big one and lowering the price a bit.

all imo.
Yep, people normally buy a 500 cause they want a 500, not cause they want a decent car, or they would buy one instead of an old sierra
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Yep, people normally buy a 500 cause they want a 500, not cause they want a decent car, or they would buy one instead of an old sierra
Classic.
Old 16-09-2006, 04:53 PM
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Put it in the garage and forget about it, once you bring it back out you'll fall in love with it again and wonder why you wanted to sell it, Unless ofcourse you need the money tied up in it
Old 16-09-2006, 05:04 PM
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not another so called rS500 expert geeees these 500 experts get everywhere dont they .

fooook em jay keep it pal its a real credit to you .

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Old 16-09-2006, 05:12 PM
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Well i gotta say im glad it hasn't gone, coz you really didnt seem like you wanted to let it go earlier

She look sat there today all cleaned up though
Old 16-09-2006, 05:17 PM
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Suppose he has a point saying he knows how quick it will be - stupid quick. Why 3k worth of paint? Did he expect it to be TOTALLT mint?

It looks v clean to me anyway.

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Old 16-09-2006, 05:24 PM
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lol, if it was totally mint it would be totally mint money to buy it which its not.

getting a good car,excellent spec for the money.
Old 16-09-2006, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
thing is Jay, its a very rare market for the rs500, people want the best car available,i don't think the engine will sell this car imo, may be better putting the lower spec engine in and selling the big one and lowering the price a bit.

all imo.
Yep, people normally buy a 500 cause they want a 500, not cause they want a decent car, or they would buy one instead of an old sierra
spot on!!!

Good advice from Dave and a very funny comment from Chip that is also very true!
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well maybe ill end up stuck with it then.............how will i sleep!
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Fook em Jay. Yours is one of the nicest driving 500s around, and thats the gods honest truth from one of the few people in the current RS scene who has actually driven a LOT of different 500s and can therefore speak from experience of them.

The right buyer will buy it mate, fook the rest of the gobshites. This is why my car hasnt actually been advertised for sale yet as i cant be arsed dealing with fooking idiots like this in my spare time.

nice comment stu thanks
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
well maybe ill end up stuck with it then.............how will i sleep!
In a smaller house than if you sell it?
Old 16-09-2006, 05:46 PM
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i hate peoplewho come to view cosses, specailly heavily modified ones as the they would a new standard car.


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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
well maybe ill end up stuck with it then.............how will i sleep!
why not just break it and get alot more than your asking for it in bits,it could be turned over in 14 days.
Old 16-09-2006, 06:23 PM
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experts are usually right!!!
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what you got to think of half of thoese people have not got the money to
buy rs 500 anyway they wouldnt know what to look for they come for a ride it makes you mad
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Jay, wreckon it goes away for the winter...
Old 16-09-2006, 07:18 PM
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Did the buyer turn up in a Saab Jay

As Rick says, just tuck it away for the winter, unless you really need to sell it for the house situation.
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Originally Posted by StickerPaul
Did the buyer turn up in a Saab Jay
Old 16-09-2006, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
Originally Posted by fordsportjay
well maybe ill end up stuck with it then.............how will i sleep!
why not just break it and get alot more than your asking for it in bits,it could be turned over in 14 days.

well this was mentioned today to expert and buyer
i said "im not moving from the price as i know its worth more in bits" reply came like this "if you can show me £13000 in parts on that car then ill give you my x5 bmw"by this tme i had run out of patience and told him to go and buy one of the handfull of rs500's he had found available for £11000-£13000.

i just want an rs500 to drive about in,not polish and keep under a cover and one my mrs can nip to the shops in........................not with my paddle clutch!!!and if that was the case and he wanted one to drive-why want concours paintwork?????
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and one my misses can go the shops in.............fookin brilliant Jay.

no matter what car it is...its still a car.
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she might drive it to the shops once,and it will be missing when she comes out it's amazing the amount of time wasters you get when selling anything
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Sounds like a bit of a muppet really, the sad thing is you get people who expect immaculte cars when they come to buy them, but when they sell it is a different story

When I bought my RS500 I knew it was not the best around, BUT I want to be able to use it and not worry about getting it a little bit dirty or a stone chip or two...and I did not pay the top money for it due to this!! (but still a lot for a Sierra LOL!!)

I guess the person who looked at your car will have to buy one of the 11-13K RS500s then!!!!

If I had not bought mine a while ago I would have been very interested in yours....

Good luck with the sale mate

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"im not moving from the price as i know its worth more in bits" reply came like this "if you can show me £13000 in parts on that car then ill give you my x5 bmw"[/quote]
send him to my place i will show him how to get 13K out of one in parts,he would loose his X5
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i'm sure you would with your prices Pete.


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he recons the rs500 id was worthless because it was cat d.......

rs500 engine was worth a grand,he was a bit of a trader who had just sold a silver sapph out of our local autotader.dare say had i have took his offer of £11500 cash,it would have also been in the week after for £13995.

i certainly dont need to sell it that much,if at all now as i think we have found a cheaper house-by 10k
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Trouble is people want it for nothing, i have had a load of time wasters
this week and that is just with a rst, they dont take into account
the time and man hours gone into the car, and the age of most rs fords, to keep them in good condition, most look pretty but if you know where
to look there sheds, so let them buy cheap rubbish, and regret it later.


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next cunt that turns up jay say to them lets see how ur guna pay for this or fuck off

why is it when urselling something people always think ur skint and try an take the piss
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TELL THEM NO MONEY NO TEST DRIVE IF YOU GO TO SEE A CAR LIKE THAT YOU WILL HAVE MONEY WITH YOU EVEN IF ITS JUST A DEPOSIT
TIME WASTERS
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as said just break the car..saves time , hassle and dealing with tossers, i, done it with both my escorts..best thing for them!
my big spec escort was turned into SERIOUS money from just a few advertsts on here /ebay in 3 weeks!!
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Originally Posted by Kevin Sharp
as said just break the car..saves time , hassle and dealing with tossers, i, done it with both my escorts..best thing for them!
my big spec escort was turned into SERIOUS money from just a few advertsts on here /ebay in 3 weeks!!
Only difference is selling a car its usually one tosser at a time.

When you sell it in bits then it can be 10 tossers at a time..


The world is full of timewasters.....


BUT


As someone who looked at 7 RS500s before settling on theirs...

The world is also full of liars, dreamers and folk who think shite is worth gold..

SO as much as it pains me to say it.. its a double edge sword.

Sellers can be as bad if not worse than buyers..... 'Oh yeah its mint mate....mint'
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neil, listed bit by bit on ebay..takes a little time i admit but its relatvely hassle free.............i,d be breaking it if it was mine but its jays choice..... he will see several thousand pounds more in his bank account if he does the right thing.......
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I know what you are saying Kev, I was thinking of breaking mine after all the shit with Ima... but in the end it went to Terry Storey who's done a lovely job on it and the car lives on.


It is a shame to break a perfectly good car, I could understand it if it was a rotter... but it certainly looks good in the pics.


Its also a shame that there is a trend of branding anyone who doesnt buy a car a timewaster, it puts off people who are seriously interested.

After all, how many people would spend 10k plus on a motor they'd seen a few pics of on a bulletin board, so you've got to go and look, but if its not for you then you should be able to walk away without fear of being branded a timewaster etc
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as kev says,very few "tossers" on ebay,only really genuine buyers when its proper stuff,20 negative feedbacks from 5,500ish positives on my account cant be that bad,the negatives are 75% none payers as well.break it jay.its the only way.

or as pete rightly says,let me, i will show you an x5 worth as well.and in under 14 days.
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
i'm sure you would with your prices Pete.


I know I dont know how how keep them so low,and still make a living
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i know that its worth good money in bits,especially as most of it is not that old.may be the only way to do it.

im going to make a few guesses at what prices things would go for;

rs500 engine £2000
my 200 block engine £3-3500
rs500 inlet manifold and elbow £750
t4 £750
front bumper £5-700
rear upper spoiler £500
lower spoiler £200
trim-£500
dash £500
l8 ecu with live mapped chip for my engine £400
air injector with driver £250
alloys £650
front brakes £350
rears £250
gaz shocks £400
pacel shelf £100
gearbox £300
diff £250
header tank £100
breather tank £100
roose hoses £50
rs500 cooler £250
coil pack conversion £300

there is circa £12000 there without the shell/id etc

just would seem a shame to break an rs500 as there arent that many left.
what sort of money is rs500 shell/id worth on cat d?

saying that though ,it would be easier to pull it apart than it was putting it together!


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