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Old 06-09-2006, 10:24 PM
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i would like to bet that a trader would pay no more than £5k on a very good day, in fact email them and ask, im sure tim will value you it, as he buys and sells at realistic prices, and doesnt get stuck with a load of shit after because its overpriced.
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i would say no more than 4k tbh, i would have to agree with phil, just what has it got going for it, its now neither the original 3dr, or the 4wd sierra ?

all its really worth it what you would get in bits, value it as what you would want it for martin, its not an investment at all, if its just fr a laugh, then to get rid, its still 4k.
there is no way the guy will take 4k for it... it would be worth much more than that in bits!
Mark no disrespect mate but thats a load of cobblers if its 500 log book then the id and shell are worth that alone ! .


And Phillis re _ read the post its missing the splitter ! it has 500 spec bumper and spoiler in which case is worth £500 a piece on any day of the week !




Regards Doug .
i reckon the engine has got 2.5k value too and how much is a near mint interior worth?
TBH Martin if the trim is minty mint then you can ask what you want nowadays !

Shell + id £3500-£4000
Engine box £2500-£3000
Trim anything upto £2000 complete
Spoiler £500 plus
Front bumper £500 plus
Lower rear spoiler on condition upto £150
then there is all the other shit that goes with it so if broke its over £10'000 easy .



Regards Doug .

doug, im not with you on that at all
Sorry Mark I stand corrected ill edit engine all ancrillarys i.e loom etc ready to fit and run ,
But I would stand by everything else IMO

5-6 years ago 500 spoilers front bumpers were fetching a Grand a piece !



Regards Doug .
why would a modified std 3dr shell be worth £4000 with a non genuine id doug ? it has to have been modded to take the 4wd , its £1500 - £2000 at the best,
Read my post treacle if its on 500 book ! not in a way any which way or form .


Regards Doug .
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i would say no more than 4k tbh, i would have to agree with phil, just what has it got going for it, its now neither the original 3dr, or the 4wd sierra ?

all its really worth it what you would get in bits, value it as what you would want it for martin, its not an investment at all, if its just fr a laugh, then to get rid, its still 4k.
there is no way the guy will take 4k for it... it would be worth much more than that in bits!
Mark no disrespect mate but thats a load of cobblers if its 500 log book then the id and shell are worth that alone ! .


And Phillis re _ read the post its missing the splitter ! it has 500 spec bumper and spoiler in which case is worth £500 a piece on any day of the week !




Regards Doug .
i reckon the engine has got 2.5k value too and how much is a near mint interior worth?
TBH Martin if the trim is minty mint then you can ask what you want nowadays !

Shell + id £3500-£4000
Engine box £2500-£3000
Trim anything upto £2000 complete
Spoiler £500 plus
Front bumper £500 plus
Lower rear spoiler on condition upto £150
then there is all the other shit that goes with it so if broke its over £10'000 easy .



Regards Doug .

doug, im not with you on that at all
Sorry Mark I stand corrected ill edit engine all ancrillarys i.e loom etc ready to fit and run ,
But I would stand by everything else IMO

5-6 years ago 500 spoilers front bumpers were fetching a Grand a piece !



Regards Doug .
why would a modified std 3dr shell be worth £4000 with a non genuine id doug ? it has to have been modded to take the 4wd , its £1500 - £2000 at the best,
The I.D. is genuine for the shell... i have all the DVLA paperwork from 1992 after they inspected it and gave the shell their blessing
Old 06-09-2006, 10:25 PM
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at the end of the day, martin if he buys it will pay what he wants to pay and not a penny more,
not true.... i would like it a cheap as poss but don't want to rip the guy off as i have know him for years.
Do you know how much he wants for it, surely, if he's a mate, he won't be trying to rip you off either

If his price is above what you are prepared to pay, then clearly, you need to get him drunk and do a deal then, or let it go by.

Reading the previous posts, it sounds to me as though it's a case of what you are prepared to pay for it, such wild differences in prices 3K to 10K suggest it doesn't really have a price imo.
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Old 06-09-2006, 10:29 PM
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i would say no more than 4k tbh, i would have to agree with phil, just what has it got going for it, its now neither the original 3dr, or the 4wd sierra ?

all its really worth it what you would get in bits, value it as what you would want it for martin, its not an investment at all, if its just fr a laugh, then to get rid, its still 4k.
there is no way the guy will take 4k for it... it would be worth much more than that in bits!
Mark no disrespect mate but thats a load of cobblers if its 500 log book then the id and shell are worth that alone ! .


And Phillis re _ read the post its missing the splitter ! it has 500 spec bumper and spoiler in which case is worth £500 a piece on any day of the week !




Regards Doug .
i reckon the engine has got 2.5k value too and how much is a near mint interior worth?
TBH Martin if the trim is minty mint then you can ask what you want nowadays !

Shell + id £3500-£4000
Engine box £2500-£3000
Trim anything upto £2000 complete
Spoiler £500 plus
Front bumper £500 plus
Lower rear spoiler on condition upto £150
then there is all the other shit that goes with it so if broke its over £10'000 easy .



Regards Doug .

doug, im not with you on that at all
Sorry Mark I stand corrected ill edit engine all ancrillarys i.e loom etc ready to fit and run ,
But I would stand by everything else IMO

5-6 years ago 500 spoilers front bumpers were fetching a Grand a piece !



Regards Doug .
why would a modified std 3dr shell be worth £4000 with a non genuine id doug ? it has to have been modded to take the 4wd , its £1500 - £2000 at the best,
The I.D. is genuine for the shell... i have all the DVLA paperwork from 1992 after they inspected it and gave the shell their blessing
In that case I stand by my coments 110% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Regards Doug .
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i would say no more than 4k tbh, i would have to agree with phil, just what has it got going for it, its now neither the original 3dr, or the 4wd sierra ?

all its really worth it what you would get in bits, value it as what you would want it for martin, its not an investment at all, if its just fr a laugh, then to get rid, its still 4k.
there is no way the guy will take 4k for it... it would be worth much more than that in bits!
Mark no disrespect mate but thats a load of cobblers if its 500 log book then the id and shell are worth that alone ! .


And Phillis re _ read the post its missing the splitter ! it has 500 spec bumper and spoiler in which case is worth £500 a piece on any day of the week !




Regards Doug .
i reckon the engine has got 2.5k value too and how much is a near mint interior worth?
TBH Martin if the trim is minty mint then you can ask what you want nowadays !

Shell + id £3500-£4000
Engine box £2500-£3000
Trim anything upto £2000 complete
Spoiler £500 plus
Front bumper £500 plus
Lower rear spoiler on condition upto £150
then there is all the other shit that goes with it so if broke its over £10'000 easy .



Regards Doug .

doug, im not with you on that at all
Sorry Mark I stand corrected ill edit engine all ancrillarys i.e loom etc ready to fit and run ,
But I would stand by everything else IMO

5-6 years ago 500 spoilers front bumpers were fetching a Grand a piece !



Regards Doug .
why would a modified std 3dr shell be worth £4000 with a non genuine id doug ? it has to have been modded to take the 4wd , its £1500 - £2000 at the best,
The I.D. is genuine for the shell... i have all the DVLA paperwork from 1992 after they inspected it and gave the shell their blessing
then you need to speak with the RS500 registrar to see if they agrre with it, as im sure you know, the DVLA will let you put what you want on the log book, if you speak to them nicley, has it been sanctified as pukka by the owners club ? not that i give a shit as i would buy it on its merits, but if your valueing it as a pukka item and its then tuned out not to be, youve just payed top dollar for a 3dr, even when its been reshelled, still loses value as a 500, look at how many times this has been discusssed about 'genuine' cars, still drops that value - even though the shell is still prob in better condition that the oe shell would be now.
Old 06-09-2006, 10:34 PM
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If its 500 its 500 end of reshell or not ! dont really matter the only diffrence in the shell to std 3 door is about half an inch cut from the battery tray to clear the 8 inj plenium ! .
The rest is the same nowt special ! .



Regards Doug .
Old 06-09-2006, 10:36 PM
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I reckon Spadge is on the same wave length.... i will bid him and see.

I don't think i would be in too much danger at that sort of money as i have just broke it on paper and it adds up the over 9.5k at conservative prices.
Old 06-09-2006, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
I reckon Spadge is on the same wave length.... i will bid him and see.

I don't think i would be in too much danger at that sort of money as i have just broke it on paper and it adds up the over 9.5k at conservative prices.
As said 45 mins ago I agree !



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Old 06-09-2006, 10:51 PM
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Mart


just buy it stop messing around offer him 7k/8k thats it it's worth that you wouldn't lose even if you was to sell it/break it again

it 's is a nice car and if your going to track it we can swap interior as my door cars are shagged

i'm sure we can sort something mate
Old 06-09-2006, 11:02 PM
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martin

ur money?

buy it, stick in a barn and forget about it

good luck tho mate, these shonky 20yr old cars can be a pain



Old 07-09-2006, 06:22 AM
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North yorks had a 3dr 4x4 std non 500 spec last year and he wanted just under £4k for it, so i'd value this at £5k just for the added value of the 500 bits.

Pauls was on a Q though, so maybe this is worth a little bit more
Old 07-09-2006, 07:42 AM
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Now all the idiots have tried to value it , ( lol ) i will tell you what its worth


6 / 7k ___ depending on condidtion

Reason

1, its a reshell so the shell and book are worth a less that a 500 shell and book thats gen

2, its converted to 4x4 , so the shell is modded for this ( lowering the value of the shell again )

3, its got no T4 and inlete etc

4, not everyone wants a 4x4 3 door

BUT , the fact that its 4x4 is probs the reason Martin wants it , and its a cheap car for a lot of fun , but will never have a great value as its not a normal 3 door / 500 ,

It will break for 6/7k so its worth that complete as it will resell for that and break for that if you get board

Paul
Old 07-09-2006, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SPADGE
In my opionion Martin its worth about 6-7k
Cheers Spadge..
You've still got the touch Spadge
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Now all the idiots have tried to value it , ( lol ) i will tell you what its worth


6 / 7k ___ depending on condidtion

Reason

1, its a reshell so the shell and book are worth a less that a 500 shell and book thats gen

2, its converted to 4x4 , so the shell is modded for this ( lowering the value of the shell again )

3, its got no T4 and inlete etc

4, not everyone wants a 4x4 3 door

BUT , the fact that its 4x4 is probs the reason Martin wants it , and its a cheap car for a lot of fun , but will never have a great value as its not a normal 3 door / 500 ,

It will break for 6/7k so its worth that complete as it will resell for that and break for that if you get board

Paul
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Here's the figures i got for breaking it (i'm not going to do this btw) how far out am i?

Shell with I.d 2500
tailgate 600
bumper f 500
bonnet 150
bodykit 350
dash 400
engine 2500
box 300
rear end 200
17" alloys 350
rad 75
intercooler 50
L8 ecu 150
grill 50
interior 600
car loom 100
rear bumper 75
3" mongoose 150
rack,hubs,shafts 150
breather system/aeroquip 125
odds and sods 200
total 9575
Old 07-09-2006, 08:23 AM
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Right guys - Is it possible to look at this in a different light.

So its HPI Clear right - So:

If for example Martin wrote:

Value this - RS500 Converted to 4x4 with engine upgrades - what would you say its worth now????????

Personally - I'd say £14-£16k simply as its a mint condition RS500 Shell and converted to 4x4 etc
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wonder where the shell came from???,i once bought some stuff
off a guy who had a workshop stuffed full of new Cosworth
shells,met him near west midland police station,said follow
me,it was a memorable drive following him
had more hair in them days
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
wonder where the shell came from???,i once bought some stuff
off a guy who had a workshop stuffed full of new Cosworth
shells,met him near west midland police station,said follow
me,it was a memorable drive following him
had more hair in them days
shell come from Brooklyn
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Originally Posted by Paul1982
Right guys - Is it possible to look at this in a different light.

So its HPI Clear right - So:

If for example Martin wrote:

Value this - RS500 Converted to 4x4 with engine upgrades - what would you say its worth now????????

Personally - I'd say £14-£16k simply as its a mint condition RS500 Shell and converted to 4x4 etc
What upgrades, the T4 & 8 injector plenum aren't there anymore..

£14-£16K your having a laugh mate
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Originally Posted by MONSTER
Originally Posted by Paul1982
Right guys - Is it possible to look at this in a different light.

So its HPI Clear right - So:

If for example Martin wrote:

Value this - RS500 Converted to 4x4 with engine upgrades - what would you say its worth now????????

Personally - I'd say £14-£16k simply as its a mint condition RS500 Shell and converted to 4x4 etc
What upgrades, the T4 & 8 injector plenum aren't there anymore..

£14-£16K your having a laugh mate

But this can be put right then you have a mint RS500 4X4
Old 07-09-2006, 09:23 AM
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martin you at work today?

need to speak to you regarding a external waste gate setup
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£5,000-£5,750 traade price martin,
what ever paper work you have etc the cars wrong,its never going to be 100%,who would pay £2,500 for the shell with id?and a 4x4 engine wont make £2,500 either,you can realistacally halve both them prices.
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Tim

sorry but the shell and id will piss £2500

and the engine ( if still a 500 head and block )will also piss £2500

Martins prices for breaking are about spot on

Remember Tim , not everyone gives there stuff away lol,
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Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
£5,000-£5,750 traade price martin,
what ever paper work you have etc the cars wrong,its never going to be 100%,who would pay £2,500 for the shell with id?and a 4x4 engine wont make £2,500 either,you can realistacally halve both them prices.
you really need a lesson in reality mate,no offence stick to e bay
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Its only worth what it is in parts or what someone is willing to splash out. I wouldnt give anymore than 3k for it as its not a proper sierra cossie let alone rs500 imo.

Look at that white 3 door made out of all original parts and was mint, it couldnt even fetch the same money as a 100k original rough round the edges car iirc
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Alps

Be sensible ,, Its a mint condition good spec car , 6 / 7 k is a fair price

Paul
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Well, I stand by my original idea of 1k more than a regular 3 door of the same condition.
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i would pay 2k for the id alone so an extra 5 for the rest dont sound out of the way
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...eh i think i was the first to value it correctly ...i should know,i buy enuff cars...and i come from a car dealing family

...but of course being in agreement with me is like having a friend who rides the sunshine bus...
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NORTH YORKS RS SPARES


Thats what i would be willing to pay for it as i would be getting a cheap fun car, not a guesstimate value.

If i was going to spend 7k on a cossie i would be looking for a clean solid 3 door thats genuine but might need a little tidying.

Thats why i said 3k cause to be perfectly honest i dont like 4wd and certanly not a perfectly good rwd cossie converted to 4x4.

Someone might want a 4x4 car but prefere the look of the 3 door to an escort or saph so to them it would be a good buy for 7k.

Hope you understand what i'm getting at
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we are obviously saying the wrong thing, i.e not what you want to hear, hence why we are still disgussing it and martin doesnt own it yet. yms prices are the most realistic prices for cosworth parts around, do i hear a bit of jealousy in the air tonight
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its a reshel, could have been built from bits and then bought a 500 id from a breakers

aint hard to chop the batt tray

its got no 500 value based on the fact its not original,,,,, its got 500 id BUT its less a 500 than a 3 door cossie with the bits on it are


with hearing this info i wouldnt pay more than 6k for it


if its on the hit list its worth 4k tbh a a car as whats the insurance value gonna be on a 500 with no 500 bits but the kit


also notice all these people who would pay 14k for it dont seem to buy 3 door sierras


if i took that car to you martin and said that storey what would you value my car at,,,, remember im just telling you and have no real proof,,,,, it could also be a ringer tbh ( not this car btw but a car i brought with that same storey)

good luck either way
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Ok its 6 to 7K will he take that for it Id jump at it for that and then id break it up when i was done with it
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6-7 grand aswell imo if you want it for a fun car, as for RS500 value its a reshell with only the 500 bumper & spoiler, did it have a 4x4 engine fitted aswell? Greys with a T3

As Bal said, people talk the talk but how far would they put their hand in their pocket??? When we put Sassy's 3 door for sale we had 2 people look at it in 2 months because it was a cat D, people were not interested unless they thought you would near on give it away.
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And its nice to see the 500 bits are going up 1k for a front bumper
Old 07-09-2006, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
£5,000-£5,750 traade price martin,
what ever paper work you have etc the cars wrong,its never going to be 100%,who would pay £2,500 for the shell with id?and a 4x4 engine wont make £2,500 either,you can realistacally halve both them prices.
Tim,
the engine would piss £2500 no problem...

It has done 3500 miles since a full and proper rebuild, it has cosworth 7.2:1 pistons, all the bits that wear have been replaced, it's been balanced and has a ported head to 400hp spec... still think i'm miles out?

btw ... hows the box?

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Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
who would pay £2,500 for the shell with id?
Me, thats the ideal base for my dream cossie, 4x4 in the best looking shell.
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who is yms ????
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by SPADGE
In my opionion Martin its worth about 6-7k
Cheers Spadge..
You've still got the touch Spadge
Cheers for the vote of confidence Lee Sadly lacking from myself ever since i bought that nail of a Gartrac and then pranged it
I was just thinking back to when i paid £10k for my 4x4 3 door and it wasn't as good a car as what Martin is describing hence me re-building the car at least one time over
Get it bought Martin and if you get bored with it give me a shout and if i'm in the position to buy it i'll relieve you of it
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Originally Posted by Nomaderst
Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
who would pay £2,500 for the shell with id?
Me, thats the ideal base for my dream cossie, 4x4 in the best looking shell.
Tim... have one of these


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