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Old 03-09-2006 | 06:26 PM
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About 30bhp?!?!
Old 03-09-2006 | 06:46 PM
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Dunno but the hose clips on the old one are too big
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alex did you turbo the old mini engine, if so any info about it or vids


ps how small are you to fit in a mini
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different carb ?
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Those hose clips are HUGE and will be smaller this timem

I didnt build or install the last engine

Carb is the same and yes its turbo'd....

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thats the old engine' s graph btw!

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Old 04-09-2006 | 01:13 AM
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Still 5port, still turbo, you just havent put all the bits on, not sure there is anything there to spot really?

no gay red anodised carb cover perhaps? lol
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have you got old and new the wrong way around?
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Efficient transmission...
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Is it the mini engine turbo'd up or is it a metro turbo engine dropped in?
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How come the power & torque curves dont crossover at the usual 5,250 RPM?

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Old 04-09-2006 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
How come the power & torque curves dont crossover at the usual 5,250 RPM?

Originally Posted by J871yhk
The Axis are different
Old 04-09-2006 | 09:23 AM
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Cause the graph is bullshit i guess Doug
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i hate minis

i had to drive mini mags GT1275 down to our lock up the other week - what a peice of shit!!!

i dont know how the fuck people like them and actually enjoy driving them
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Because when they have a decent engine in.. such as the 1293 turbo... then they're awesome fun.

Not much comes close to them on the tight twisties!

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id rather cut off my testicles than drive a mini every day

orrible things
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Dan, I'll take you for a blast on track and show you why one day
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cool cool, im up for that

IMO of course, and it could have been just that one as others said it was a really poor driving position etc, basically the seat was right back, and im only 6 foot but me bloody knees were up to my ears and the steering wheel was miles away, and the pedals were horrible.... rant rant rant
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Sorry, Alex, Doug and Chip are right... That graph is NOT right ...
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Originally Posted by fudgeass
cool cool, im up for that

IMO of course, and it could have been just that one as others said it was a really poor driving position etc, basically the seat was right back, and im only 6 foot but me bloody knees were up to my ears and the steering wheel was miles away, and the pedals were horrible.... rant rant rant
I knew a geezer who was 6'3 and had a mini and drove it all the time.

And his mate was 6'6 and around 15 stone and could drive em
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Lovin' the metalflake paint, Alex. More pics please.
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more pics at www.afracing.com/mini.htm


SECS please explain
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Torque Lbs/Ft and BHP should be the same @ 5250 rpm

BHP cannot be measured, it is a calculation.

See here .... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower
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the graph is right you mongs - at 5250rpm, you've got about 165 lb.ft torque, and about 165 bhp

that paint job is gay

and that's a lovely location for the air filter and interwarmer
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foreigneRS,


Nick you are blind, that graph clearly crosses over at around 4700 rpm
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Nick is right

Different scales on each side!
Old 04-09-2006 | 02:04 PM
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yeah its not great but it managed that power - or atleast a figure not far from that it was insanely fast for a 1.3 mini

This one should be about 30bhp less but more driveable - then again it might not be
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
BHP = rpm * lbft / 5252

So if you rearrange that equation you will see that

BHP/torque * rpm = 5252

So where BHP and torque are the same (ie bhp/torque =1) then RPM = 5252


Its just phyically impossible for your graph there to ever be considered any more accurate than if you got the etch-a-sketch out basically mate


DUH!

LOOK AT THE SCALES!

the line for torque and bhp are on different scales so of course it doesnt cross at that exact RPM.

The Computer that produced the graph has moved the scales to fit the page better.

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Alex, The rpm scale is the same for both traces so its still wrong !!


Not saying you didnt make decent power but the graph is bollox
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SECS if i'm blind, then you're stupid. i think that you're the one who should've gone to specsavers mate
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Alex, i realised that when i saw Nick's reply and amended my post to say so but you were obvioulsy in the middle of quoting me
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Originally Posted by SECS
Alex, The rpm scale is the same for both traces so its still wrong !!


Not saying you didnt make decent power but the graph is bollox

No, its correct, just the vertical scale is different so it makes them look like they cross at 4700 when the values are REALLY the same at 5252
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chip-3door,

Aaah, I see what you mean now - Still, the point was the graph is sh*t !

Nice power for an egg box on wheels
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Alex, i realised that when i saw Nick's reply and amended my post to say so but you were obvioulsy in the middle of quoting me
was slow on the reply - I clicked it then tried to buy Tenacious D tickets for Decembers tour!!


SECS - of course RPM is the same, the torque and BHP scales the the different ones.

If they were the same then the BHP formula would show the lines crossing at 5252 - as they are different scales they don't cross.

If you like you can pick a random figure or two and run them through the formula - it should be OK

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SECS you owe me an aplogy as well now big man
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The graph sucks donkey cock without a doubt, what a dum idea, but none the less its correct
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Originally Posted by SECS
chip-3door,

Nice power for an egg box on wheels

now thats not fair


but its too ture
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Chip its a fine graph - its in colour and its pretty

Thats all those graphs should be - they are not exactly accurate are they
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