Mr C

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...already attempted it an I believe the job is finished, I am widening the track on my sapphire cossie but to inprove the lock.
I have a wider steering rack with longer arms, it gives about 1.5" per side extra width, I move the TCAs out an inch and a half and will fit the compression struts so the front ARB isnt a problem I think there is enough adjustment in them for that amount. All I need then is top mounts sorting, I have solid top mounts for the o/e strut position but will need the tops pulling out around 1.5" to compensate the extra width, will these on the right get the adjustment that I need:

I have found these in the USA, look like a proper piece on kit, drags the Sierra into the 21st century... just

Will these do it or is it left to a Reyland style job of cutting the strut tops off and welding new wider top mounts on??

Anonymous

You arent going to be able to move it 1.5" on those eccentric mounts as they dont move that far, and on the yank type ones i doubt you can either as the spring would end up rubbing in use i should think.

Ryan

you need what the jap boys use on alot of the Apexi and tein stuff.

there top mount are superb.

Have both massive amount camber and caster adjustment aswell.

Something similar to this:



Obivously these ones are purely for camber.

Anonymous

Ryan, still limited by the amount of clearance the spring on the shock has from the bodywork though of course.


Mr C, have you actually looked up from underneath to see if moving it 1.5" is an option in the first place without rubbing on whatever shocks/springs you have?

ian sibbert

all you need to do is make an extended/higher wider turret top on the car to accomodate the eccentric top mount you have. set the eccentric to the widest point job done....although the proper wrc top mounts do give you a wider top seperation...

Ryan

chip, yeah i know mate, but with coil overs fitted there is quite a bit of room to play with.

Escpecially if you do a full on WRC mod and extend the turrets (think martin did this on his) and fitted large top mounts.

Think Also Tony Ryan did this on his Thundersaloon.

Ryan

or do what ian has said just before, damn you must have pressed submit just before me

ian sibbert

But we do have camber adjustment on the hub to compensate, we dont just rely on the tca for camber adjustment.....

Ryan

ian, if your free give me a call today please mate

i think you know what its regarding

CozzyBrom

standard lenth tcas will not give u full ajustment
i did martins stuff it alot of work to get right and with a saff i dont thing u got get much room with the arches deffo if its a 4x4 and i got big brakes u got no chance

ian sibbert

Brom's quite right I never realised it was on a saph....even on a wider tracked esc cos with standard arches the wheels are close, hence why they flared front and rear arches on the wr car.....

Ian

markk

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it can all depend on how wide you want to go and where your measuring it, if your measuring it fom hub face to hub face then it can be done ( forgetting wheel to arch clearance, i must measure mine soon tbh as it is pretty wide at the front, so much so that i need to do something with the rear - looks a little .............odd

Mr C

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I can get some adjustment back on the turrets as I am using AVO coilovers, no arch liners and flared and rolled arches on my GpA Rally sapphire shell
I am willing to flare the arches more so as to help, something like this car:

this one shows them better:

I currently run 355mm 6pots under 18"Rl7s but willing to move down to narrow17s and 330mm brakes.
Markk what is it you use done yours, PM if prefered,
Ryan- If these work then I will give them a try, not seen them for a cossie, but will source and get a set to fit if these may work

All of this work is to get a cosworth drifting, I need the angle, more lock please

markk

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lol !!

Turbo Zetec

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i love the knowledge some people have on this forum

GARETH T

where?

Tony Ryan

Ian ,
All that beautiful work and a snotty bit of old stick to prop the bonnet up , shame on you , lol .
I did use WRC top mounts on my car but i adapted them to go in the TAS style mounts as i didn't want to muller the turret top , was more for the reliabilty of the top mount than any extra lock , still not sure why you need it , and my track is Wide track GpA with 10" wide front wheels anyway .

3dr wixsy

Ive done the markk mods and altho better still not as good as the nissans, i think to move the tops out youll have to enlarge the turret top cos at mo mines right against the outer edge . As you im just trying to get a cossie drifting. Up and running now just needs a final map!!

Turbo Zetec

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while we're on this... could any of you knowledgable people tell me what grade ally you would use for making such a topmount...?

ian sibbert

Cheers Tony, the bonnet stay is still under development we put a stay on that fits onto the hinge, but the bonnet is that light it twists so we have to temporarily put the engineered oak in place to stop it....

The wr top mounts are steel.....

Regards

Ian

Versus_Creations

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how about drıve shafts

SteveH

Its 2wd mate

Mark, can you not get rack made, with a 'narrower' middle bit, so the rack can pull/push the wheels further? Or will the wheels hit the arches?
Will explain with elaborate hand gestures next time i am round, lol

Mr C

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OK, going to start this one again from the top;
I NEED EXTRA LOCK TO DRIFT MY 2WD GpA RALLY SAPPHIRE SHELL

I need it cos cosworth std lock is crap and I will get nowhere drifting, I already use the lock stop and its frankly a CRAP ANGLE! I can easily be beat by a std 200sx on std steering.

So I was recommended some mods for the steering that Markk used, different rack and moved TCAs etc etc but I had doubts about the top mounts not being moved, 3dr Wixsy has done the same mods- what did you use for top mounts on this setup though or are they std??

I dont get what the `LOL` and `lack of knowledge` comments are about

And Tony Ryan- cosworths have good lock for circuits but pretty poor for the road let alone drifting angle

Thanks for the phone call `Nightdivva`, top bloke, will take your advice, just need something more than crap std to work from

SteveH- thats what I`m missing, its the hand gestures that make it for me when explaining middly bits and things and stuff , I will understand totally when you have flapped about for a bit

Finally a pic of the offending motor, I would hate to have to sell up now because I couldnt get angle , though and RX7 or S15 would look sooo much better

Versus_Creations

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Sorry pal. My bad

Should of read a lıttle more before postıng.

JonnyBravo

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Thats a 909 bonnet stay isn't it

GARETH T

Thats a 909 bonnet stay isn't it [/quote]

i dont like the diff control wires running that way
reminds of when i was younger and the chap at the end of my street was running an amp power wire AROUND the outside of his car in twin and earth

JonnyBravo

i dont like the diff control wires running that way
reminds of when i was younger and the chap at the end of my street was running an amp power wire AROUND the outside of his car in twin and earth [/quote]

Chap at the end of your street ? or YOU

andymaac

what steering rack are you using to give you wider track


and here are some top mounts for you

https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=187720

GARETH T

Chap at the end of your street ? or YOU [/quote]


ive been busted

ian sibbert

ive been busted [/quote]

You do realise my car is remote control.... and I couldn't even afford the wireless handset.....I have to chase it along the stage....lol

Ive amended the first pic for all you eagle eyed fookers....

Ryan

where was my phone call ian, useless bugger