Ginge !

or hospital staff, wanna know something


just wondering if amublances HAVE to have a paramedic on board or can they just have first aid qualified people ect


im asking for a very personal reason and i was under the impression atleast ONE had to be fully qualified


please no piss taking on this thread as a close person to me died due to there not being a paramedic on board,,, and its cause they wasnt trained to use the equipment they had on board

so just wondering the fact here

MAD EVO 4

My misses is a E,R nurse bro, ill ask her for you


Sorry to hear about your mate R.I.P

Ginge !

its was my best mates 15 year old sister,,,, it was 2 weeks ago and her funeral was yesturday, just we was talkign about it and wasnt sure


if its the case then his parents are obv gonna sure just so no other person should go through this,,,,,,,,, i dotn ever wana dsee any of my kids die,,, nobody should hve to let alone the youngest one

L33 BYT

Is there nothing on google?

Sticky.

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Lou Lou is studying to be a Paramedic IIRC

Ginge !

i fucking hate using google as i always get 9 million pages and what ever you tyoe they send you loads of random ebay links aswell as price comparison sites

this site has alot of educated people and find its easier to discuss a situation like this with people in the know


not like i feel anything that happens will change whats happened,,,,,,, just be nice to discover that either the laws should be changed or someone should be held acountable that a 15 year old child died due to a manager tryin to reach is bonus at the end of the year


btw im not bitter at any of this,,,,,,,, just wanna know whats what

Cola

I've a mate who qualified two years ago as a para. I'll find out for you.

Lou Lou.

Sorry to hear this

As far as i knew you have to have at least a level 2/technician to go out on calls will see what i can find out tho

Ginge !

thats what i thought


the reason is the ones on board couldnt use the machine to help assit her epileptic fit and she died of cardiac arrest on route to hospital


i COULD moan about how it took them 45 mins to travel 15mins normal driving to her,,,,,,, but i understand theres already moans about this and if we was told that they could take upto a hour then tbh his mum would have called her son to drive over and take her there ,,,,,,,, but no fooker could guess that would happen,,,,,,,,,, just would have been nice if they sent anyone who could use the toys that helped rather than 3 people who can wrap a bandage


btw this aint a dig any any staff even the ones that arrived as they are just repsonding to a call and working hard like the always have too

AKRS1

try this link it may have something on there you maybe looking for

http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/nhs-kno...data/5117.html

frog

Ginge, sorry to hear about your loss

Soon they will be called mechanics, what's wrong with doctor, nurse, medic, etc... ???

L33 BYT

Fair enough mate. Was just putting forward my 2pence worth.

Ginge !

sorry never ment to sound like i was being arsey to you


ive got a personal hate to search engines as they seem to search the words in ebay or kelko these days

im sorry if it sounded like i was aiming it at you

L33 BYT

Nah not taken like that at all.

I know what you mean though. Hope you find the info your after

Ginge !

cheers, its unfortunate to say but funerals are actually not a bad thing as i met LOADS of people i aint seen for 10 years and never even thought about so i like to think that some good has come from it


even hearing about a mate who made a bad spur of the moment reflex and deck a bloke who anoyed him infront of 2 old bill and he got nicked for it,,,,,,,,,, talk about bad luck

Lou Lou.

I dunno ive never questioned the name before pops


I havnt managed to get an answer yet the guy im trying to contact must be out on a call..

Ginge !

yeah lou hope he dont answer the phone instead

fair play for going into a very stressfull job

Lou Lou.

Lol no i text him as not sure on his shifts this wk

Yeah its something i have to try or would always regret not trying

Ginge !

its a shitty job on the basis that you never get real thanks when you save someones life as the doctor then takes over and gets all the praise but when things like this happen you then get blaimed

Lou Lou.

Yeah totally agree thats why im taking my time on this rather than applying and spending 8wks on training before im out there being responsible for others!!! have joined St Johns Ambulance so am doing as many courses as i can and getting experience before i go out there

Plus i feel like im doing something more to help by starting off for free and in my spare time

COMEDY DAN

Very sad news matey.

peteh

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If there would be anybody to blame at all mate, it would be managers, the people that have no idea as we're (the medical staff) being screwed
at the mo, whilst they drive around in there BMW's and the like, working all hours, doing things only doctors should do, that's the piss.

Id expect they were trying to save costs as the NHS is in such a state at the mo, hospitals making redundances, even closing in the near future i bet, then what will happen???!!

F@@kin labour

Ginge !

peteh i could never blame them as they was just sent there, not there fault they aint got the training,,,,,,,, who ever done the rota is to blame or why they dont do more training i supose


just wondering what the facts are before we go looking more into it as its not on that nhs is using peoples lives against money,,,,,,, and your right labour dont fucking help,,,,,,,,, but they aint gonna have to worry about things like that are they

peteh

iTrader: (3)

exactly, making us coup without the staff we need, then mistakes happen, the news gets involved then the NHS is shite again

Ginge !

fair point

but surely the bad press leads to a good thing ??

i know its crap at first but it must go better if enough complaits go forward

cause if it is the case that they should have had 1 paramedic on board and fook all happens im sure we will be asking for the person responsible

peteh

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*EDITED* you've read my response

Ginge !

wehy would they send a transport ambulance if shes having a fit,,,,,,, shes not a old ladie going to a day center

there was 3 of em too,,,,,,,, 3 pointless people for the job required,,, surly theres more than 1 ambulance and they could have rerouted

The Youth.

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My brother and sister in law are both paramedics, they said that they doesn't have to be a paramedic on board 2 technicians can man an ambulance, the AIM is for at least every ambulance to have a paramedic but at the moment that is not the case.
this applies to the north east ambulance trust not sure of other area's of the uk.

steve

mgstu

which county region are you in. ?

Iain Mac

I've stated my position about attacks on the NHS before:

Take it up with the politicians, the managers or the people who keep votong for lower taxes instead of decent public services. Often the same ones who reckon they are entitled to everything but have no responsibilities.

Don't even think about moaning at the folk doing their best in difficult circumstances. I know I'd rather have a technician or a first aider turn up than no-one at all, but even having no-one turn up would be preferable to a local councillor, MP or hospital manager.

And I am truly sorry for the loss of a young life. Please don't misunderstand me.

Treen

Good link - interesting reading

scottp

My girlfriend (shes 15) is in the St Johns Ambulance, she says it has given her alot more convidence in helping people in situations. There is also a very good team spirit within the 'club'. Last year her and her family were the first at an accident and she used he training to stop a young girl falling into a coma until the paramedics arrived some time later. Once in hospital the girl did fall into a coma, but recovered a few days later.
she was pleased when the girls uncle phoned her and thanked her for helping the girl out, and the doctors said the girl could have died if it wasnt for her.