just doing my breather kit at the moment, getting rather complicated

just need to know how to remove the inlet manifold and i have several questions:

is there particular order, take plenum off, or just remove the whole thing, throttle injectors etc.

is it just the one bolt between the engine mount and throttle body?

how many bolts hold the inlet pipes to the head itself, i can only see 5, unless there is some underneath?

also on the turboside, i cant find the other blank to breathe from

any speedy replies appreciated as i am in the middle of doing it right now

cheers guys

R

 

There are 10, there are 5 hidden away, studs are in the inlet that then go through and you have nuts on the other side.

I always leave as much as possible connected to the car, so undo the fuel rail and leave it with the car when you take the manifold off.

 

so unbolt the fuel rail? and remove the injectors? and leave the wholelot in the car? how do the injectors remove?

i can see the 5 bolts at the top, but can see any others, do i need to remove the plenum to get that them?

 

leave the plenum in one piece

leave the injectors and fuel rail in place

unbolt the whole lot together - there are 5 bolts/nuts underneath - you can get at them

 

so how do i remove the fuel supply to the rail?

so the 10 bolts for the inlet and the bolt from the engine mount to throttle, and it comes off?

 

Leave it connected

Yes - not forgetting the oil dipstick bracket nut on the back of the plenum

 

Why are you removing the inlet to fit a breather just out of intrest

 

Must admit that crossed my mind too, but im guessing he has one that replaces that metal "kidney" box thing, and not just the firetrap repalcement ones like a bailey one like i have.

So i just stuk to giving advice on how to completely remove the inlet from the car as thats what he seemed keen to do

 

Update:

the original plan was to remove the inlet, and as chip stated to remove the kidney box, however after looking at this, i decided to leave the inlet in place, i am fitting the breather as per the normal bailey instructions, however, i can seem to get a pipe onto the kideny breather?

i have removed the right angled pipe off the top of the kidney box but can seem to get a breather hose over it, as its too close to the inlet manifold plate? (if you get me?)

Now my question is this, how do i get a breather pipe onto this kideny box? any one got any suggestions?

 

You can take the kidney box out with the inlet manifold in place.........

 

been trying that yesterday with no luck

also couldnt get the pipe onto the top of the kideny box either

fancy dropping in and giving me a hand sometime? if you are local?

just wanna get my car back on the road

 

No probs - can't do this evening, but should be able to pop round one night....

 

cheers mate, much appreciated

now i'm back to the old issue of drilling the rocker cover or not. even if i did remove the kidney box, the bailey hose isnt long enough to go from the oil outlet into the oil drain on the inlet side of the engine (mirror image tank)

would like to do it this way though

 

4x4 kidney boxes have a small pipe attached that goes to the sump have you removed that?

 

nope. the kidney box is still on there, as couldnt see how to remove it, or how to get a pipe onto the top of it????

ideally wanna remove it, use the crankcase breather point (think i need some sort of adaptor? and use this oil return for my breather?

 

bttt

anyone know if it can be removed without removing the inlet?

what did you all do regarding to breathing from this point, have already removed the red flame trap, but can see a way of joing the pipe to this kidney box

 

Hi mate
The kidney box is just a tight fit into the block with nothing holding it in so a bit of a twist and a pull should have it out.
As i said earlier there is a small pipe attached to it that goes into a pipe into the sump so just disconnect one end of that from either the sump or the kidney box itself.
The problem with working in that part of the engine is the manifold and the coolant pipes going to the modine on the oil filter but you should be able to do it without too many problems.When you refit the kidney box put it at a slight angle so the breather pipe can pass through the manifold without getting kinked.
If the pipe you have is slightly too tight to fit even with the kidney box out then put it the end in a bowl of boiling water for a minute or two before trying to push it over the spout on the kidney box.

 

so if its just a tight fit, could i just put a screwdriver in and move it out a little so i can push the pipe onto the top, or is the oil return pipe too short for this:

cheers for the help guys its all much appreciated. i'm being a little impatient as i have the rocker cover under my work desk, awaiting its fate as to whether or not it gets a hole drilled in it, and the car HAS to be out of my gf dads garage by next week. etc etc

 

You will be able to see the pipe i mean but i would guess it should be long enough to allow you to twist the kidney box a little.

 

i fitted a mirror image tank to mine, i removed the red flame trap,the vaccum hose to the plenum comes off with this and can be blanked with the plug in the fitting kit, and the small hose that connected it to the kidney box,

then connected the breather hose to the pipe on the kidney box, all with the manifold on.

 

thats exactly what i am trying to do. but it wont let me dammit

2wd, or 4wd?

wanna come do mine, devons not far from london

 

you dont need to take the kidney box off , the red flame trap comes off easy, with the vaccum pipe, in bits normally, so you are left with the kidney box and a small length hose on top , pull it off and connect the bailey hose to it


4x4

 

this is the pipe going down to the kidney box ,

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...6/IM000575.jpg




one to the rocker cover,

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...6/IM000577.jpg



this is the return to the sump

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...6/IM000576.jpg

 

thats the one i am struggling with. cant get it on there for the life of me.

the top of the kidney box looks a little too close to the inlet pipes.

will have another crack tonight though.

 

quick update:

manage to get my hand in behind the kidney box and move it out a little, and with a little hot water (cheers spadge ) and a lot of force, got the bailey pipe ove the outlet.

now i can start fitting all my new bits as i put it all back together

 

Nice one mate glad your sorted

 

just drilled the rocker cover (had to ) and its now ready to take home and fit

pics as soon as i am done