Rover 3.5 V8 Engine... How Much Power...
06-07-2006, 11:02 PM
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Rover 3.5 V8 Engine... How Much Power...
The Rover 3.5 V8 Engine, does anyone know how much power they produce as standard?
Been offered one fairly cheap, I would obviously re-condition it, not looking to modify it though, just drop it into my new Project.
Been offered one fairly cheap, I would obviously re-condition it, not looking to modify it though, just drop it into my new Project.
06-07-2006, 11:03 PM
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Re: Rover 3.5 V8 Engine... How Much Power...
Originally Posted by Big Ad
The Rover 3.5 V8 Engine, does anyone know how much power they produce as standard?
Been offered one fairly cheap, I would obviously re-condition it, not looking to modify it though, just drop it into my new Project.
Been offered one fairly cheap, I would obviously re-condition it, not looking to modify it though, just drop it into my new Project.
06-07-2006, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Fuck all 
Around 160bhp of low rev wank IIRC
Absolute shite IMO, dont know why anytone bothers, modding em aint cheap either, Ford V8s tho, different story
Around 160bhp of low rev wank IIRC
Absolute shite IMO, dont know why anytone bothers, modding em aint cheap either, Ford V8s tho, different story
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06-07-2006, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Ad
160?? Is that it from a V8??
Anyone know where I'll pick up a Ford V8 cheap, other then fleabay
Anyone know where I'll pick up a Ford V8 cheap, other then fleabay
06-07-2006, 11:13 PM
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190 isnt a bad figure for the price of the engine, sure I could mod that to over 200bhp.
Was only looking for a realiable 250ish.
Looking for 250ish but want to stay N/A
Was only looking for a realiable 250ish.
Looking for 250ish but want to stay N/A
06-07-2006, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Ad
Anyone know where I'll pick up a Ford V8 cheap, other then fleabay
I bought my 89k mile 5litre Ford V8 (302 windsor) from the UK for 350quid delivered.
Off to Devon tomorrow to pick up a 351 Windsor (5.7) tomorrow morning, forged pistons too, 20quid, happy days
Pretty sure DannyB can sort you out with a fully rebuilt 5litre V8 for about a grand tho (think less, ask him)
Originally Posted by Tangodeltasierra3
190bhp exact.
Earlier ones were 155-160bhp. Even some of the later 4litre versions like in 90s landrovers etc are only 190bhp.
Tunability its totally wank compared to Ford Windsor V8s too.
06-07-2006, 11:34 PM
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"ignore power and notice torque because torque makes you fast and power just makes you talk"
a short quote from Mr.Edlebrock himslef
rover V8 is a buick V8.......
look at american classic/performance mags for prices and power outputs.
i could buy a full rebuild kit for a yank V8 including new crankshaft and pistons for $495, thats cheaper than a set of cossie pistons from an unknown manufacturer
americana V8 rules
a short quote from Mr.Edlebrock himslef
rover V8 is a buick V8.......
look at american classic/performance mags for prices and power outputs.
i could buy a full rebuild kit for a yank V8 including new crankshaft and pistons for $495, thats cheaper than a set of cossie pistons from an unknown manufacturer
americana V8 rules
06-07-2006, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cossie Sean
"ignore power and notice torque because torque makes you fast and power just makes you talk"
a short quote from Mr.Edlebrock himslef
a short quote from Mr.Edlebrock himslef
See, they should listen to Mr Edlebrock, if theydve built a well designed but almost standard engine of that capacity theydve produced more torque than that, tho maybe only 160bhp, and of course, theydve been faster
Torque is nice, esp if your gearing makes it hard to stay in the powerband, but all that torque talk people say is bollocks
06-07-2006, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Originally Posted by Cossie Sean
"ignore power and notice torque because torque makes you fast and power just makes you talk"
a short quote from Mr.Edlebrock himslef
a short quote from Mr.Edlebrock himslef
See, they should listen to Mr Edlebrock, if theydve built a well designed but almost standard engine of that capacity theydve produced more torque than that, tho maybe only 160bhp, and of course, theydve been faster
Torque is nice, esp if your gearing makes it hard to stay in the powerband, but all that torque talk people say is bollocks
horses for courses. innit.
07-07-2006, 12:09 AM
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Regardles of weight, as long as the gearing is right so the car dont drop out the powerband on every gearchange, the car with 800bhp but only 200lbft of torque will piss on the car with 250lbft of torque but only 200bhp, be it F1 car or Yank Tank.
This torque wins races bollocks is just stuff said by people who like to quote americans without knowing what they saying, and for XR4x4 owners to say just before they run another 16sec quarter
Torque is BRILLIANT, thats why I love big boost turbo cars and have no interest in high revving n/a engines, makes cars so nice to drive.
But for people to say that torque is what matters to win a race and power is just a number for showing off that means fuck all, just shows what gullible chumps they are.
This torque wins races bollocks is just stuff said by people who like to quote americans without knowing what they saying, and for XR4x4 owners to say just before they run another 16sec quarter
Torque is BRILLIANT, thats why I love big boost turbo cars and have no interest in high revving n/a engines, makes cars so nice to drive.
But for people to say that torque is what matters to win a race and power is just a number for showing off that means fuck all, just shows what gullible chumps they are.
07-07-2006, 12:13 AM
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i'd rather have a torquey car on a windy country lane instead of a big bhp at high revs car. go off boost or in the wrong gear for a corner or sommat and your fooked 
You dont need torque or bhp to win races. You need driving skill
except drag racing because any mug can do that
You dont need torque or bhp to win races. You need driving skill
except drag racing because any mug can do that
07-07-2006, 12:24 AM
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dont need torque tho, you just need the correct gearing and enough skill not to miss or choose the wrong gears.
what your describing is a car with a wide powerband than just a torquey one anyhow.
torque makes driving a lot easier, but as long as the gearing is suited to the engine (same goes for the torquey motor) the one with plenty more power but less torque will win if all else is equal.
and summat tells me power and torque makes a lot of difference in racing, if it dont and you can win in a car with far less performance than the others then your obv racing in a series far too easy for you!
what your describing is a car with a wide powerband than just a torquey one anyhow.
torque makes driving a lot easier, but as long as the gearing is suited to the engine (same goes for the torquey motor) the one with plenty more power but less torque will win if all else is equal.
and summat tells me power and torque makes a lot of difference in racing, if it dont and you can win in a car with far less performance than the others then your obv racing in a series far too easy for you!
07-07-2006, 06:13 AM
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I bought everything to rebuild a 350 chevy motor for £225/$380
I've got a customer with a complete 5.0GT engine from a Mustang with T5 gearbox for £800
don't bother with the rover, it's too expensive to get decent power from.
LS1 chevy is as light, but cost a load more
I've got a customer with a complete 5.0GT engine from a Mustang with T5 gearbox for £800
don't bother with the rover, it's too expensive to get decent power from.
LS1 chevy is as light, but cost a load more
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Originally Posted by Cossie Sean
"ignore power and notice torque because torque makes you fast and power just makes you talk"
a short quote from Mr.Edlebrock himslef
a short quote from Mr.Edlebrock himslef
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
You need driving skill except drag racing because any mug can do that
except drag racing because any mug can do that
07-07-2006, 11:21 AM
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a mate of mine has a mk2 escort with a rover 3.5 in it..then decided to put two cossie hybrid turbo's on there,makes 500bhp+ easily and lord knows how much torque and sounds the absolute nuts.do it
07-07-2006, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by 89XR2
You need driving skill except drag racing because any mug can do that
except drag racing because any mug can do that
07-07-2006, 05:56 PM
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Thanks for the advice guys. A mate of mine has offered me a 5.8Ltr V8 Engine, box and prop. Just he doesnt know what engine it is ect, its been in his garden a few years
07-07-2006, 06:13 PM
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Picked up the 5.7 today Now got 2x Ford V8s without anything to put em in
How much more? Its only a lil bit more isnt it?
Now got 2x Ford V8s without anything to put em in
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Oh guys, just for the record - F1 engines make more than 200 lb/ft
07-07-2006, 07:13 PM
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I picked up an efi 3.5 rv8 a few weeks ago complete with loom, ecu and afm for £78.
I was reading on a v8 forum the other day about a bloke with a supercharged 3.8 (modded 3.5) running silly high compression ratio on LPG. Think it made something like 420hp.
I was reading on a v8 forum the other day about a bloke with a supercharged 3.8 (modded 3.5) running silly high compression ratio on LPG. Think it made something like 420hp.
07-07-2006, 07:56 PM
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Specifications & applications
Capacity Bore Stroke Max. Power Max. Torque Applications
3528cc 88.9mm 71.12mm 91bhp @ 3500rpm 166lb ft @ 2000rpm 1979-82: Land Rover 109
125bhp @ 4000rpm 185lb ft @ 2500rpm 1981-86: Range Rover
127bhp @ 4000rpm 194lb ft @ 2500rpm 1970-71: Range Rover
130bhp @ 5000rpm 185lb ft @ 2500rpm 1971-77: Range Rover
132bhp @ 5000rpm 186lb ft @ 2500rpm 1977-86: Range Rover
132bhp @ 5000rpm 1980-82: Triumph TR8
1980-81: Rover SD1 (US-spec)
134bhp @ 5000rpm 187lb ft @ 2500rpm 1986-xx: Range Rover
135bhp @ 4750rpm 185lb ft @ 2500rpm 1970-71: Range Rover
135bhp @ 4750rpm 205lb ft @ 3000rpm 1970-xx: Range Rover
1975-78: Land Rover 101 (military)
137bhp @ xx00rpm 193lb ft @ 2900rpm 1974-77: MGB GT V8
143bhp @ 5000rpm 202lb ft @ 2700rpm 19xx-76: Rover P6 V8
144bhp @ 5000rpm 197lb ft @ 2700rpm 1968-xx: Rover P6 V8
150bhp @ 5000rpm 204lb ft @ 2700rpm 19xx-76: Rover P6 V8S
151bhp @ 5200rpm 201lb ft @ 2750rpm 1967-73: Rover P5 3.5-litre / 3½-litre
155bhp @ 5250rpm 198lb ft @ 2500rpm 1976-86: Rover SD1
165bhp @ 4750rpm 206lb ft @ 3200rpm 19xx-xx: Range Rover
190bhp @ 5280rpm 220lb ft @ 4000rpm 1982-86: Rover SD1 Vitesse
3948cc 164bhp @ 4750rpm 212lb ft @ 2600rpm 1989-date: Land Rover Discovery
178bhp @ 4750rpm 220lb ft @ 3250rpm 19xx-xx: Range Rover
185bhp @ 4750rpm 235lb ft @ 2600rpm 19xx-xx: Range Rover
3948cc 190bhp @ 4750rpm 236lb ft @ 3000rpm 1994-2001: Range Rover
4278cc 200bhp @ 4850rpm 250lb ft @ 3250rpm 1994-96: Range Rover
4554cc 225bhp @ 4750rpm 277lb ft @ 3000rpm 1994-2001: Range Rover
Capacity Bore Stroke Max. Power Max. Torque Applications
3528cc 88.9mm 71.12mm 91bhp @ 3500rpm 166lb ft @ 2000rpm 1979-82: Land Rover 109
125bhp @ 4000rpm 185lb ft @ 2500rpm 1981-86: Range Rover
127bhp @ 4000rpm 194lb ft @ 2500rpm 1970-71: Range Rover
130bhp @ 5000rpm 185lb ft @ 2500rpm 1971-77: Range Rover
132bhp @ 5000rpm 186lb ft @ 2500rpm 1977-86: Range Rover
132bhp @ 5000rpm 1980-82: Triumph TR8
1980-81: Rover SD1 (US-spec)
134bhp @ 5000rpm 187lb ft @ 2500rpm 1986-xx: Range Rover
135bhp @ 4750rpm 185lb ft @ 2500rpm 1970-71: Range Rover
135bhp @ 4750rpm 205lb ft @ 3000rpm 1970-xx: Range Rover
1975-78: Land Rover 101 (military)
137bhp @ xx00rpm 193lb ft @ 2900rpm 1974-77: MGB GT V8
143bhp @ 5000rpm 202lb ft @ 2700rpm 19xx-76: Rover P6 V8
144bhp @ 5000rpm 197lb ft @ 2700rpm 1968-xx: Rover P6 V8
150bhp @ 5000rpm 204lb ft @ 2700rpm 19xx-76: Rover P6 V8S
151bhp @ 5200rpm 201lb ft @ 2750rpm 1967-73: Rover P5 3.5-litre / 3½-litre
155bhp @ 5250rpm 198lb ft @ 2500rpm 1976-86: Rover SD1
165bhp @ 4750rpm 206lb ft @ 3200rpm 19xx-xx: Range Rover
190bhp @ 5280rpm 220lb ft @ 4000rpm 1982-86: Rover SD1 Vitesse
3948cc 164bhp @ 4750rpm 212lb ft @ 2600rpm 1989-date: Land Rover Discovery
178bhp @ 4750rpm 220lb ft @ 3250rpm 19xx-xx: Range Rover
185bhp @ 4750rpm 235lb ft @ 2600rpm 19xx-xx: Range Rover
3948cc 190bhp @ 4750rpm 236lb ft @ 3000rpm 1994-2001: Range Rover
4278cc 200bhp @ 4850rpm 250lb ft @ 3250rpm 1994-96: Range Rover
4554cc 225bhp @ 4750rpm 277lb ft @ 3000rpm 1994-2001: Range Rover
08-07-2006, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RS2300 4x4
Steve,
I'm after a 302 engine to rebuild, does the place yours come from have any more?
I'm after a 302 engine to rebuild, does the place yours come from have any more?
Originally Posted by Big Ad
Originally Posted by Stavros
Picked up the 5.7 today Now got 2x Ford V8s without anything to put em in
Now got 2x Ford V8s without anything to put em in You Want To Sell One?
08-07-2006, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RS2300 4x4
Ebay prices are a joke for anything other than Rover V8s 
thats coz they are really rare in the uk compared to rv8's, took me six months to find a decent late 302 that didn't require a rebuild!
there a guy in brum that will sell u a complete 302/351 for £400 put will need a rebuild.. on the plus side the parts to rebuild are next to nothing compared to just about any other engine
oh and steve your small blocks would be 5.8 not 5.7
heres mine
