slowpoke

im just curious here but how would a stg 3 4x4 saph with say 350 hp do against a new m3 from the lights and also say 70 to 100mph ?

think the m3 would murder the saph,

matt

Porkie

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We sooooo did this last week!

Rolls

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try to find the posts from Dave on the subject...

Mike Rainbird

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He has an excuse, he was on holiday .

COSSIE 1

not again , why not go out and find out u see e46 m3s on every stretch of road wont take long to find one

Mr Brannen

Very valid point, sorry but the saff would murder one,I take it you mean 330+ BHP, the day before I sold my saff I raced a grey one, close but I was pulling away on the M right the way through



I bet theres at least 10 threads on this in the last year

cossie can

mine kills my pals e46m3 and his manual.

I even waved at him as i went past!!!

DaveEscos

kills you all talk bollocks!

I've owned a stg 3 escos for 3 years and a 440 esc cos for 7 months

I now own an E46 M3 and can quite honestly say, the Ł46 is more than a match for a stg 3 cossie from lets say, 70 upwards

cossie can

Well all im saying is from 60 ish i just pulled away from him like he was going backward.

Top end it may be quicker as mine still has 48 exh so it runs out of legs,but he never got a chance to prove it

Andreas

Check out www.track-challenge.com and you can compare some modern cars.

They also got different accelleration figures.

Only found elasticity figures for the M3

M3 E46 80-200kph (50-124mph) and in 4th it does it 18s, blank.

Now, ive done this with my Sapph and logged it with the Pectel Monitor and then calculated the speed using RPM and gearning figures. Even confirmed the calculated speeds using a GPS and it was spot on.

Result, 15 seconds.

Now thats 3 seconds faster and I actually started accellerating and measuring the time at 75kph. So 75-200kph was 3s faster than the E46 does 80-200kph.

Graceland

Matt - don't you be breaking more things for me to fix

pete mcrash

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ive got (sorry had blew it up gettin rebuilt) 4x4 saff t34 .48 greens,stage 3 it made 357 on the rollers and that distroyed my mates 03 plate M3,from slow speeds or going 100+ maybe the driver they're normally just posers, best thing iz when they get to 155 and stop ...beep beep get owt the way

charlie luciano

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Its when they have been de-restricted thats when m3's can cause us cossie boys a few problems, i have had a go with a few of the latest m3's and done em all, had a go with a fella round egham and his one was the earlier shape around p or r reg, that was the only m3 that has stuck on my daily but still couldn't get passed until i let him, then he flew onto a roundabout and nearly got whacked by another motorist bmw drivers eh!

C L

Staffi

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Yeh, but he`s not getting his M3 rebuilt

Andreas

Yeah, that vanos thing is unbreakable....or not.

Mike1

Don't try and stick with an M3 CSL through roundabouts unless you've got a brilliant grip/handling set-up

Mike Rainbird

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And Sapphire Cossies only do a TRUE speed of 157mph if they have the standard limiter in place (17" wheels) .

DaveEscos

I have wound my M3 up to 170 speedo..

with, and im serious... NO DRAMAS!

it just gets there


and no cossie paranoia either!

you know


120.. is itgoing to melt

130 .. is it going to melt

missfire... SHIT!!

140 .. is it going to melt


150... shit what was that noise!

dare I go to 160.....?


155... fucking shitting it

160.. its going to melt!



thats worth the depreciation in itself!

carlo

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Last summer i had a 2wd saph with greens 24 psi t34 ect & the saph was quicker than a guy i knows e46 m3 quite a bit till about 145 - 150 then his car grew legs & he has had it from new but it goes by 155 no limiter strange i also work for bmw i speak to ppl on many occasions & they say their crs goes bye 155 & my mates has also just bought a e46 m3 convertible and its the same..quite strange either they are talking crap
or the speedo isnt accurate & theyre not really going past 155 or the limiter is fiction---What do you think?

DaveEscos

My E46 goes past the limiter too...

i think the 155 is bollocks tbh..

I have seen 170 on the speedo...

I reckon true speed is 160 or thereabouts

either way, i havent hit a limiter... YET

carlo

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I beleive you dave i have seen this countless times
& i know the cars have defo never had the limiter removed
my mate likes cars but he dosent know that much & beleives he is really doing 175 mph as you say 160-165 prob right
I do know the bmw e39 m5 defo sits on 155 & wont budge as i have seen it for my own eyes.
But i dont think the e46 has the limiter.

cpt scarlett

i ve had a 350 bhp saff and have now got a E46 M3 i dont think theres much in it until you get up to 150+ then my M3 comes into its own (its had the limiter removed)

cpt scarlett

also mine pull 165 on the clock in 5th and 180 in 6th

DaveEscos

180 ?

my 170 wasnt balls out crazy, and sport mode wasnt on either..

heres a pic (DONE ON A PRIVATE TEST TRACK OFFICER)

DanRSturbo

That picture's too smooth to be taken whilst driving Or maybe it's more refined then taking a pic in a beantin

Either way, that's fooking speeds. Be interesting to see what the gps score would be tho.

cpt scarlett

sport mode was on car felt stable i go a bit nuts sometimes!

DaveEscos

Dan, 160 I reckon or there abouts

cpt scarlett

try it tonight dan if you fancy it?

cpt scarlett

been a gps 150 in my escort and it felt much faster in the M3

carlo

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You have got to love the m3s they love getting a kicking

DanRSturbo

Your on m8, Never been in an M3 before

Staffi

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180 mph are you pulling our pissers alot of 500bhp cossies can`t do that........

DaveEscos

check my picture, that was 170 and look at the revs left over

case closed

Staffi

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Dave, what power do they have??

Is it 343bhp, and similar torque????

DaveEscos

about that mate.. i reckon the E46 M3 is good for 160 - 165 mph REAL speed not SPEEDO speed

Staffi

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Whats the big difference with the CSL then mate???

Is it just a case of saving weight, or was it tweeked???

I love the CSL.........

DaveEscos

csl is lighter, has better suspension, slightly remapped ecu, uber bling inlet system, bigger brakes.

no mods cons though and a fluffy steering wheel.


Pure toy, for the track etc.. not a daily driver at all

Staffi

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But nice though fella

Does it have a carbon fibre airbox, cus the sound is awesome......

WD Pro

ACS claimed 175 for a derestricted e36 3 evo.

Mine did this in fifth and I wasnt even trying :



No limiter kicked in and I have no idea what the speedo said

Staffi

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Might sound THICK here, but how do you deristrict them