NEW PRODUCT. ATTENTION ALL WEBER L8 & P8 OWNERS.
28-06-2006, 05:05 PM
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NEW PRODUCT. ATTENTION ALL WEBER L8 & P8 OWNERS.
I am very pleased to announce that through a liaison with Nikola at RP LABS we at Motorsport Developments are now the Sole UK distributor of their fantastic IAW monitor products. 
The IAW Monitor is a very powerful serial DataStream tool.
It can read, interpret, log and even scope all the data available through the factory provided diagnostic interface on ALL Weber Marelli IAW L8 & P8 series Ecu’s that are equipped with software allowing DataStream output (Such as Pectel amongst others)
In most Ford Cosworth ECU’s, you will be using a Pectel or similar derivative of the serial data communications protocol, and if you are not, your chip can be modified to provide it without touching your original engines maps. (At additional cost) Please be aware that normal Weber software does NOT provide this output as standard and the P8 needs an internal modification to allow the output from teh software to work.
The parameters that you can read, datalog and scope are individually adjustable as is the sampling rate it can be recoded and displayed at. Available data logging time depends only upon the amount of free hard disk space available.
The data read can be shown in either a numerical display, a scope display, both, or as an "analog" dash type display.
Key Benefits:
Here are a few screenshots to wet your appetite.**
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/06...icp-rp-013.png
The screen above shows what options are available to be monitored via your serial output and also shows an example of some outputs being "Scoped" in real time to find signal glitches. (Wiring etc)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/06...icp-rp-014.png
The screen above shows the error functions built into the ecu serial system and how you can interrogate them yourself.
Any errors show up in RED.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/06...-015ASmall.jpg
The screen above is used to configure all the options and colours of your loggers and dashboard display... bringing me too..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/06...cp-rp-017A.png
The Dashboard. Self explanatory really, similar to screen one but all displayed as analogue dials.
Please note:
A few of the options shown will not work under Pectel serial communications, but all the important ones do such as:
Any additional features apparent in the screenshots are to be disregarded as they are not available to normal Weber L8 & P8 owners using the Pectel or similar data output. These extra features are present as this software is also used with RP labs own mappable ecu. (Details coming soon)
The software itself just requires a PC running windows and a 9pin serial port for the connector. A special cable is also required to make the interface RS232 compatible. This cable connects directly between the serial port and ECU diagnostic connector, once connected, you can monitor, scope and datalog away to your hearts content.
Product Options and pricing:
IAW Monitor PRO for Pectel DataStream £250 inc vat.
IAW Monitor Full for Pectel DataStream (No swinger function) £200 inc vat.
IAW Monitor Basic (No swinger or data logger function) £150 inc vat.
Serial communication interface £25 inc vat.
The Professional version is upon us:
On top of all the above features, the "Professional" version supports alteration of fuelling and spark advance anywhere in the map LIVE whilst you drive. Just like the original Pectel monitor high end versions with "Swingers". This is arguably only of use to Pro's as the alteration is NOT permanent but it allows the tuner to make note of the EPROM addresses he saw gains and then re-burn an EPROM with the new data changes. As an added advantage, the monitor can, at the press of a button, store data address, rpm and boost levels present at the time you saw fit to modify the map, allowing you to read this back when the time comes to modify the EPROM data.
The IAW Monitor is a very powerful serial DataStream tool.
It can read, interpret, log and even scope all the data available through the factory provided diagnostic interface on ALL Weber Marelli IAW L8 & P8 series Ecu’s that are equipped with software allowing DataStream output (Such as Pectel amongst others)
In most Ford Cosworth ECU’s, you will be using a Pectel or similar derivative of the serial data communications protocol, and if you are not, your chip can be modified to provide it without touching your original engines maps. (At additional cost) Please be aware that normal Weber software does NOT provide this output as standard and the P8 needs an internal modification to allow the output from teh software to work.
The parameters that you can read, datalog and scope are individually adjustable as is the sampling rate it can be recoded and displayed at. Available data logging time depends only upon the amount of free hard disk space available.
The data read can be shown in either a numerical display, a scope display, both, or as an "analog" dash type display.
Key Benefits:
Here are a few screenshots to wet your appetite.**
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/06...icp-rp-013.png
The screen above shows what options are available to be monitored via your serial output and also shows an example of some outputs being "Scoped" in real time to find signal glitches. (Wiring etc)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/06...icp-rp-014.png
The screen above shows the error functions built into the ecu serial system and how you can interrogate them yourself.
Any errors show up in RED.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/06...-015ASmall.jpg
The screen above is used to configure all the options and colours of your loggers and dashboard display... bringing me too..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/06...cp-rp-017A.png
The Dashboard. Self explanatory really, similar to screen one but all displayed as analogue dials.
Please note:
A few of the options shown will not work under Pectel serial communications, but all the important ones do such as:
Any additional features apparent in the screenshots are to be disregarded as they are not available to normal Weber L8 & P8 owners using the Pectel or similar data output. These extra features are present as this software is also used with RP labs own mappable ecu. (Details coming soon)
The software itself just requires a PC running windows and a 9pin serial port for the connector. A special cable is also required to make the interface RS232 compatible. This cable connects directly between the serial port and ECU diagnostic connector, once connected, you can monitor, scope and datalog away to your hearts content.
Product Options and pricing:
IAW Monitor PRO for Pectel DataStream £250 inc vat.
IAW Monitor Full for Pectel DataStream (No swinger function) £200 inc vat.
IAW Monitor Basic (No swinger or data logger function) £150 inc vat.
Serial communication interface £25 inc vat.
The Professional version is upon us:
On top of all the above features, the "Professional" version supports alteration of fuelling and spark advance anywhere in the map LIVE whilst you drive. Just like the original Pectel monitor high end versions with "Swingers". This is arguably only of use to Pro's as the alteration is NOT permanent but it allows the tuner to make note of the EPROM addresses he saw gains and then re-burn an EPROM with the new data changes. As an added advantage, the monitor can, at the press of a button, store data address, rpm and boost levels present at the time you saw fit to modify the map, allowing you to read this back when the time comes to modify the EPROM data.
28-06-2006, 05:54 PM
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Maybe a stupid Question Stu ?
Can the live data etc... only be viewed via a lap top as this will be a software programme loaded on to it ?or can it be integrated into a module and seperate viewer screen ?
I.e like a pectel monitor only posher lol ?
Regards Doug .
Can the live data etc... only be viewed via a lap top as this will be a software programme loaded on to it ?or can it be integrated into a module and seperate viewer screen ?
I.e like a pectel monitor only posher lol ?
Regards Doug .
28-06-2006, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug
Maybe a stupid Question Stu ?
Can the live data etc... only be viewed via a lap top as this will be a software programme loaded on to it ?or can it be integrated into a module and seperate viewer screen ?
I.e like a pectel monitor only posher lol ?
Regards Doug .
Can the live data etc... only be viewed via a lap top as this will be a software programme loaded on to it ?or can it be integrated into a module and seperate viewer screen ?
I.e like a pectel monitor only posher lol ?
Regards Doug .
Bearing in mind teh current price of Pectel monitors, i would expect the price to be FAR higher.
28-06-2006, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Doug
Maybe a stupid Question Stu ?
Can the live data etc... only be viewed via a lap top as this will be a software programme loaded on to it ?or can it be integrated into a module and seperate viewer screen ?
I.e like a pectel monitor only posher lol ?
Regards Doug .
Can the live data etc... only be viewed via a lap top as this will be a software programme loaded on to it ?or can it be integrated into a module and seperate viewer screen ?
I.e like a pectel monitor only posher lol ?
Regards Doug .
Bearing in mind the current price of Pectel monitors, i would expect the price to be FAR higher.
Could always modify the dash to house a laptop as dash display lol ......
But back to the subject in hand looks very outstanding !
Regards Doug .
Regards Doug
29-06-2006, 02:30 PM
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All this data is now available on our website for future reference.
http://www.motorsport-developments.c...iawmonitor.htm
http://www.motorsport-developments.c...iawmonitor.htm
29-06-2006, 04:14 PM
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On the diagnostics screen Stu, can you use your version to test the actuators like fuel pump, amal valve etc like on the full version with the RP Lab conversion?
that is an excellent feature that quickly proves to you that the actuators are all properly triggered and receiving a supply so that you can trace faults like blown fuses etc
what you have written only mentions retrieving the sensor errors
that is an excellent feature that quickly proves to you that the actuators are all properly triggered and receiving a supply so that you can trace faults like blown fuses etc
what you have written only mentions retrieving the sensor errors
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29-06-2006, 04:15 PM
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Could it be applied to a PDA or something similar??
So that you could have it 'live' in the car while on the move?
Looks like an awesome bit of kit!
So that you could have it 'live' in the car while on the move?
Looks like an awesome bit of kit!
29-06-2006, 07:20 PM
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On behalf of RP Lab, I have to say that we are very pleased IAW Monitor is going to be distributed through MSD.
In fact I enjoyed doing business with Stu, straight, uncomplicated and efficient
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Hopefully this software monitor is going to be useful for both Pros and DIYs.
The software started its life mostly for our in-house use, as we needed to log larger amount of data and diagnise errors also through Pectel Datastream. After a while, we decided to integrate it to IAW Control Panel, which provides now the front end. Some of the people from the PF forum are already used to it and hopefully there will be more of them to testify its usefulness soon.
Cheers,
Nikola
RP Lab
http://rplab.co.yu
In fact I enjoyed doing business with Stu, straight, uncomplicated and efficient
! Hopefully this software monitor is going to be useful for both Pros and DIYs.
The software started its life mostly for our in-house use, as we needed to log larger amount of data and diagnise errors also through Pectel Datastream. After a while, we decided to integrate it to IAW Control Panel, which provides now the front end. Some of the people from the PF forum are already used to it and hopefully there will be more of them to testify its usefulness soon.
Cheers,
Nikola
RP Lab
http://rplab.co.yu
29-06-2006, 07:49 PM
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welcome to the pf forum nick 
i can testify that it is superb software and much more useful than just a display unit.
and as 'carputers' with touch screens are getting more affordable, it makes sense to run this on something like that in conjuction with playing music, satnav etc.
i can testify that it is superb software and much more useful than just a display unit.
and as 'carputers' with touch screens are getting more affordable, it makes sense to run this on something like that in conjuction with playing music, satnav etc.
29-06-2006, 09:30 PM
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HI Stu
you know this product would it work with pectel loom as i have the facilites to add a pectal moniter would this do the same job
i think theres also an out let for a pc aswell
you know this product is it just softwear or can you do you own mapping with it ??
marco
you know this product would it work with pectel loom as i have the facilites to add a pectal moniter would this do the same job
i think theres also an out let for a pc aswell
you know this product is it just softwear or can you do you own mapping with it ??
marco
30-06-2006, 06:29 AM
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Thank you all for welcoming me.
Few people know that Nick (foreigneRS) was brave enough to be the first one to run my gear in the UK.
With time we became friends and I got valuable suggestions from him how to make the products better. Credits also go to Stu (the original) for extensive testing of my mods .
Nikola
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http://rplab.co.yu
Few people know that Nick (foreigneRS) was brave enough to be the first one to run my gear in the UK.
With time we became friends and I got valuable suggestions from him how to make the products better. Credits also go to Stu (the original) for extensive testing of my mods .Nikola
RP Lab
http://rplab.co.yu
30-06-2006, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by marco polo
would it work with pectel loom
Originally Posted by Dave Henshall
superb news - thanks for clearing up my many questions Stu - much clearer now
30-06-2006, 09:38 PM
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What are the chances of you releasing a version that can modify the ecu settings? i know its very un likely but i thought i would ask?
looks like quality stuff there mate. might have to get a "carputer" and get it monitering.
looks like quality stuff there mate. might have to get a "carputer" and get it monitering.
01-07-2006, 07:22 AM
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Hi,
A version that can alter fuel and spark "Live" is underway as we type, but its only temporary adjustements and when the ecu is turne doff it is lost. MAinly usefull for diagnostics and as a mapping aid.
Adjustin permanently is not possible on a std weber ecu.
A version that can alter fuel and spark "Live" is underway as we type, but its only temporary adjustements and when the ecu is turne doff it is lost. MAinly usefull for diagnostics and as a mapping aid.
Adjustin permanently is not possible on a std weber ecu.
02-07-2006, 09:46 AM
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going back to the earlier comments, i see no reason why you couldnt use it via bluetooth, it only needs a serial interface right?
02-07-2006, 09:49 AM
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bundle something like that in there with it...
http://www.socketcom.com/product/CS0400-479.asp
i'd like to do something similar with my ECU...
http://www.socketcom.com/product/CS0400-479.asp
i'd like to do something similar with my ECU...
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by SECS
Stu,
Did you discover the answer to my P8 question ?
Did you discover the answer to my P8 question ?
what's that regarding - whats different in the P8, will this limit the functionalaity at all of the P8 - ?
11-07-2006, 08:09 PM
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Hi Dave,
Not totally sure "why" it needs modifying if i am 100% honest. But it does.
However, this is only so that teh serial datastream output from the chip will actually reach the diagnostic connector. It has no other effect on the ecu full stop.
Not totally sure "why" it needs modifying if i am 100% honest. But it does.
However, this is only so that teh serial datastream output from the chip will actually reach the diagnostic connector. It has no other effect on the ecu full stop.
11-07-2006, 08:34 PM
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I have finalised the price structure for existing products now.
IAW Monitor Basic £160 including vat.
IAW Monitor Standard for £210 including vat.
IAW Monitor Professional… Coming soon. £TBA
Serial communication interface £25 including vat.
All in stock ready to go.
IAW Monitor Basic £160 including vat.
IAW Monitor Standard for £210 including vat.
IAW Monitor Professional… Coming soon. £TBA
Serial communication interface £25 including vat.
All in stock ready to go.
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Wish I knew what you were on about 
Well I do know that it's to do with being able to adjust the maps on the ECUs but that's about it. If I had one I wouldn't dare touch it
Well I do know that it's to do with being able to adjust the maps on the ECUs but that's about it. If I had one I wouldn't dare touch it
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more importantly (IMO) is that you can see what the ECU is actually seeing wrt the engine sensors as opposed to the voltage thet you are seeing from the sensor where you are spliced it - this allows full system testing - the whole loom , sensors and ecu
13-07-2006, 03:21 PM
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Sorry, slight price ammendment now, and for teh better
Also....
The Professional version is upon us:
On top of all the above features, the "Professional" version supports alteration of fuelling and spark advance anywhere in the map LIVE whilst you drive. Just like the original Pectel monitor high end versions with "Swingers". This is arguably only of use to Pro's as the alteration is NOT permanent but it allows the tuner to make note of the EPROM addresses he saw gains and then re-burn an EPROM with the new data changes. As an added advantage, the monitor can, at the press of a button, store data address, rpm and boost levels present at the time you saw fit to modify the map, allowing you to read this back when the time comes to modify the EPROM data.
Product Options and pricing:
IAW Monitor PRO for Pectel DataStream £250 inc vat.
IAW Monitor Full for Pectel DataStream (No swinger function) £200 inc vat.
IAW Monitor Basic (No swinger or data logger function) £150 inc vat.
Serial communication interface £25 inc vat.
Also....
The Professional version is upon us:
On top of all the above features, the "Professional" version supports alteration of fuelling and spark advance anywhere in the map LIVE whilst you drive. Just like the original Pectel monitor high end versions with "Swingers". This is arguably only of use to Pro's as the alteration is NOT permanent but it allows the tuner to make note of the EPROM addresses he saw gains and then re-burn an EPROM with the new data changes. As an added advantage, the monitor can, at the press of a button, store data address, rpm and boost levels present at the time you saw fit to modify the map, allowing you to read this back when the time comes to modify the EPROM data.
Product Options and pricing:
IAW Monitor PRO for Pectel DataStream £250 inc vat.
IAW Monitor Full for Pectel DataStream (No swinger function) £200 inc vat.
IAW Monitor Basic (No swinger or data logger function) £150 inc vat.
Serial communication interface £25 inc vat.