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Old 31-05-2006, 10:05 PM
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Default 4x4 Cossie Gearbox breakers!

Whats your stories! what you break, how did it happen etc

Wanna see the weak points
Old 31-05-2006, 10:08 PM
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ley gear in one box
transfer box in the other

gone 2wd now
Old 31-05-2006, 10:10 PM
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am on my 5th box now and 3rd gear goes everytime
Old 31-05-2006, 10:10 PM
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Paul, as you already know about mine but here goes!!

First box i managed to snap the main shaft thru the gearbox, just where it enters the transfer box - this was from a stupid launch of the line - went well for the first 15ft then game was over!!

Second gearbox managed to limp me home, dropped into 3rd on the motorway whilst playing with a Bentley Continental GT, accelerated hard and next thing it all went crunch and 3rd gear disappeared - stripped clean of all its teeth!!
Old 31-05-2006, 10:14 PM
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Kelv you had anymore thoughts after are chat last night I still haven't a clue what 'box to go for
Old 31-05-2006, 10:26 PM
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Not to much more thought as yet, been a day getting management sorted out via STU.

will probably stay on a standard gearbox for the time being, even tho its a limited life its got.

will start weighing up costs after Le mans in a few weeks.

Why not go the R & D six speed Dog box route?
Old 31-05-2006, 11:11 PM
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the most common is 3rd gear , the tooth size is pityful, no wonder it strips.
Old 31-05-2006, 11:16 PM
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fixit kit from mike r
Old 31-05-2006, 11:16 PM
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boot full of revs in second and a tweek of the clutch saw it turned to mush with 4 in the car completeley stripped second and drove home which mashed the whole box in the end
Old 31-05-2006, 11:43 PM
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2nd gear synchro all the time

3rd gear

snapped layshaft or mainshaft carnt remember which

and snapped my transfer box completely off at 120mph that was intersting

Old 01-06-2006, 04:21 AM
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Done 2 3rd gears now...

I have no respect for me transmission, even broke a Bernie Box

Plenty of quaffe (sp?) boxes floating ~2k mark for a good one
Old 01-06-2006, 06:01 AM
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time for some fixit transmissions for some of here...
Old 01-06-2006, 06:23 AM
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3rd gear stripped and part of 4th, also layshaft.

When I had it rebuilt, I had everything shot-peened.
Old 01-06-2006, 06:23 AM
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Hi Lads

if your after a standard recon box

then JC motorsport and Bernie have these ready to go

they will do them on exchange basis

just thought i would let you know

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Old 01-06-2006, 06:27 AM
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3rd to 4th synchro ... at 70 mph
Old 01-06-2006, 07:57 AM
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How hard is it to replace 3rd gear by the way? if thats the only gear gone?
Old 01-06-2006, 08:02 AM
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It's getting hold of a 3rd gear that was the hardest bit I found. Eventually sourced some in Germany. Don't know if that's still the case now.
Old 01-06-2006, 08:53 AM
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Never had a problem on my current Fixit kit in 30,000 miles .

The Mk1 Fixit kit that was in the car when I first bought it (which was rated at 450bhp) pitted one tooth on the main shaft (made horrible clicking noise) after only a thousand or so miles of 450bhp. As the Mk1 version had been superceeded by the MkII high power version (therefore no spare parts available), I had the choice of either having a custom one made by Quaife of Dome at a cost of £1600 (and then running the risk of other parts of the gearbox failing and then needing to have further custom bits made AGAIN for more stupid amounts) or buy a Fixit MkII.

I'm so glad that I did the latter, as it has been a case of fit and forget . Although I'm not agressive on launching (only ever done a handful in the dry), the car is giving DEATH in the gears and has never been out of the car since fitting .

When the first gear and main shaft become available later this year, I'll get the box fully checked over and the bearings / syncro rings replaced as a matter of course .
Old 01-06-2006, 03:16 PM
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Messing with an M3 (E46) on my old power / setup

3rd gear at 30 mph, foot to the floor, into 4th made the loadest crunch ever, though I defo didnt crunch it myself then when I lifted off, someone had obviously got under the car and was shaking various bags of spanners about

3rd gear exit stage left
Old 01-06-2006, 03:18 PM
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I'm deffo leaning towards the Fix-It kit esp with the new parts in the next batch and warrenty Just so kin' expensive real tears
Old 01-06-2006, 03:26 PM
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wot sort of price are we talking for a built up box then guys
Old 01-06-2006, 03:42 PM
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£7-800 including OE syncro rings, bearings and shot peening.
Old 01-06-2006, 03:45 PM
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Yep i have suffered the 4x4 gearbox shits itself, box that came in the car 3rd started to crunch so i bought myself another one from ford, it lasted just over a year and 5k before 3rd was destroyed, on a roundabout from a standing start 1st......2nd........3rd goodnight, don't misuse my car and thats the truth, i'm scared to boot it nowadays in case it does it again


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I broke 2 Quaife Bigtooth kits 2nd gear on one and 3rd on another

If the Fixit breaks I will be throwing the bits through Mikes front window
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Originally Posted by Porkie
I broke 2 Quaife Bigtooth kits 2nd gear on one and 3rd on another

If the Fixit breaks I will be throwing the bits through Mikes front window
As my friend then, please don't let Dan drive it .
Old 01-06-2006, 05:01 PM
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Are there any signs before they go? Start whinning or crunching?
Old 01-06-2006, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ian rst
Are there any signs before they go??
Yeah it'll be just after the little needle on the dash goes from 2k-6.5k rpm running full boost quicker than you can read that sentence
Old 01-06-2006, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: 4x4 Cossie Gearbox breakers!

Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Wanna see the weak points
Generally just after the bell housing and before the propshaft
Old 01-06-2006, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Damo V
Originally Posted by ian rst
Are there any signs before they go??
Yeah it'll be just after the little needle on the dash goes from 2k-6.5k rpm running full boost quicker than you can read that sentence
wrong gear damo?
Old 01-06-2006, 11:05 PM
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I stripped 5 teeth off 3rd gear, don't know how just got in one morning and it rattled like mad!!

must have cracked the teeth the day before and as the box cooled they fell off!!

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Originally Posted by ian rst
Are there any signs before they go? Start whinning or crunching?
None whatsoever!! Car had been running like a dream all morning at Dono on track, came through the Esses, changed gear and then I thought the car was gonna fall apart with the noise it made, like a metal bucket full of nuts and bolts being shaken

I still have a cardboard box full of the broken parts and loads of broken off teeth
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you had a helmet on though Redkop, box may have been getting noisy and you couldn't hear it
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so mike, is that price on a exchage basis from stock, or will we need to donate our box and the money and get the same one back, fully rebuilt & beefed up? how quick do you reckon you can turn them around if this is the case...? was there not a waiting list for the kits about 6 months ago, ?
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Dave you realise thats just the price for rebuilding don't you mate. You have to buy the Fixit kit as well. And you will need a good standard first gear as well.

just would hate for you to give your Box to that underhand, lying, robbing snake Rainbird expecting a £700 bill and getting one for £3k+
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Sorry, I mis-read the question, I thought the guy was asking how much to BUILD up the Fixit kit. The price on my website is for the gear-kit only (same as the Quaife price). The £7-800 is on TOP of that to have it built up into a customer supplied casing.

The new gearkit will have the full compliment of parts and so will not use the original first gear and main shaft (which will make the install cost cheaper - as that includes for those prices, but will be offset by an increase in the Fixit cost).

Regarding availability, at this stage deposits are only being taken, as the lead time is a "t.b.a." .
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ah, i getya, so the full fixit kit need buying in the firstplace and then its another 7-8 ton to build it up with all new bits inside - that sounds fair, i was gonna say, that is cheap as for 600 you can only get a std recon box

to total price would be alaong the lines of 3K...? plus obviously a new clutch while we'rw at it, a new clutch cable and front diff strengthening plate at the same time,, 3.5K ? oh, i can feel the pain alrady
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Sorry to burst that little bubble Dave, its just I could feel you excitedly reaching for your wallet!

Fooking Rainbum huh? robbing git was going to stitch you right up! he calls it aggressive marketing he also sells craftmatic beds to little old ladies the same way as well in his spare time

one last thing as well. Clutch cable??? nope... Hydraulic is the only way forward I'm afraid!
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You'd have to be STUPID to not change to hydraulic conversion at that point .
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Or STUPID not to check the thread before replying....

Too slow AGAIN Mike

here is another example of your slowness... holding people up as per usual



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