Eagle

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i said that earlier

Damo V

I wonder if I could get away woith it/....??? (Not been pulled YET)

I got a Nissan Vanette, EXACTLY the same as the Nissan Serena car/people carrier without the glass and seats.....

fords4fun

isnt a tran sit just a tourneo without windows and seats?

Transit Van Man

A connect is basically a focus badged so as not to tar the focus's image!!

an escort van had a different chassis to the escort - ie. leafs on the back! yet that was considered a car derrived van!

so whats the difference with a focus van?

bj928

as far as i was aware the transit connect was a ford focus "c170 chassis/floorpan" with a van body, so it is a car derived van even if the name says its a transit!!!

another van which is car based that nobody thinks of is the vw transporter, looks like a transit sized van but is based on a vw passat chassis,

so as far as the law goes i think you'll find a transit connect can go at the same speeds as a car seeing as its based on one.

mark_24v_wiring

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I hate to say it but this is what Ford say about the connect;

Transit Connect Short Wheelbase
Built on a dedicated commercial vehicle platform


So according to the highway code that means the connect falls into the goods vehicle less than 7.5t

So dual carageway is 60mph as long as its got the barrier between both sides of the road.

If the bit of road you were on didnt have the pernabt devide then the road speed for the connect would be 50mph.

Like bj928 i thought the connect was a car derived van but according to what the ford website says we are worng

Iain Mac

This issue had lots of coverage in the fleet press last year. The introduction of things like the Citroen Berlingo, Renault Kangoo, and Transit Connect highlighted it because until these kind of vans came along everything was either car-derived or a dedicated van. It was quite surprising at the time how many "professional" drivers didn't know the speed limit applicable to their vehicle and even today I still find fleet managers seemingly unaware of it.

So far as we could find out at the time, a road only qualifies as a dual carriageway if there is a central reservation more than one lane of traffic in each direction so 4-lane roads without the central divider have a 60mph limit for cars, and 50mph for vans, coaches, caravans and trucks.

starturbo

55 in a 50?What happened to 10 percent plus 2mph then?Or is your speedo 100 per cent accurate like all of ours as they like to think.

pjv7771

i drive roughly 25k miles a year in my tranny and i normally stick to 70-80 depending on traffic and weather and ive never had a pull from the old bill, copper must have been seriously bored to give you a pull for that

Damo V

Urban myth.

89xr2

That's what they still go by in norfolk I think different forces have different rules.

Damo V

AFAIK Its discretionary across the board, ie a magistrate wont throw a case out simply because its within the "10% + 3 MPH" scale...

Which is probably why Thrush got a word of advise rather than ticket

discodenkelly

A dual carriage without a central reservation has a 60mph limit for cars but 40mph for HGV's/buses etc so would this be the same for any commercial vehicle or is it bound by the MGW of the vehicle? so the copper could be totally wromg . . .?? Tis a weird one this

trevCOSS

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well i never knew that, I occasionaly drive a transit connect, what a stupid pointless crock that law is.

XR-RS

i got 3 points for doing 57mph on a single carriageway in a 7.5 tonne truck, didnt even spot the camera van

i was constantly getting flashed off speed cameras on the A1 even though i was only doing 50mph, i dunno what it is but the truck seems to set them off all the time. never had points but it makes you worry about getting them through the post

Transit Van Man

apparantly the cut off is
and not to do with the car/commercial derrived chassis
there is a bit more regarding minibus's and are some exeptions 4x4s etc. it gets quite complicated

Iain Mac

What is a "car derived van"

Under the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, a "car derived van" is defined as:-

A goods vehicle which is constructed or adapted as a derivative of a passenger vehicle and which has a maximum laden weight not exceeding 2 tonnes.

The important word in this definition is "and" as there are goods vehicles that look as if they are based on a passenger vehicle, but when the manufacturer puts a gross laden weight on the goods vehicle, which is the design weight of the vehicle plus the maximum load that it is designed to carry, and this exceeds 2 tonnes, that vehicle is no longer a car derived van. The van becomes an ordinary goods vehicle under 7.5 tonnes gross weight, and is therefore subject to the speed limits as shown in the Highway Code.

As a "rule of thumb" any van larger than a Vauxhall Astravan will have a gross weight in excess of 2 tonnes and is therefore subject of the reduced "class of vehicle" speed limits.

Ford Transit, Mercedes Sprinter, Mercedes Vito, Peugeot Expert, Ford Connect vans, for example, are all restricted vans.

It is immaterial that a goods vehicle may be unladen at the time it is detected exceeding the speed limit. The construction of the vehicle that enables it to be used up to the 7.5 tonnes maximum weight is the relevant criteria.

luke89

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ent read this but that uis bollox ! i was cort doing 59 in a 60 on my ped what was ment to be restriced to 30 if u debate there is nothing to comard pullin u over there is nothing they can do as long as u are not speeding in ur case over 60 ! hop[e tha helps

MONSTER

come again

droptopRST

i didn't think transit were limited but glad you have told me lol.
what a perthetic law i would have said your speed depended on your load very weird law iff you ask me.

rabmc

Well seems to be true as my mate got done in his connect for the same thing , off the traffics too

Damo V

I think you should read the thread, carefully...