HELP NEEDED...(Please read)..UPDATED..just checked shells
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Right the first pic was my car at 8pm....i have had realy low oil pressure since buying the car and it has been getting worse but no bangs from the engine so i got sick and now it looks like the last photos.............I NEED YOU TO CONFIRM MY SUSPICIONS THAT MY 2WD SAFF HAS A 4WD OIL PUMP AND PICKUP PIPE (that was covered in some sort of silicone anyhow i have posted some pics of the work so far) any input welcome........
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you can use a 4x4 pump and p/up just looks like who ever fitted the sump prior used too much of the that dreaded shit!
ps take a look at the big ends/ mains and also the condition of the pump seeing as it's had low pressure you may be lucky that there's no damage
ps take a look at the big ends/ mains and also the condition of the pump seeing as it's had low pressure you may be lucky that there's no damage
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EDIT ! Alvyn beat me to it lol
that slilcone on the pick up pipe is sealant from (probably the sump)
that COULD be whats causing your low pressure![Confused](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
tell you what mate, i would take a look at your bearings while you got it apart,, if the oil pressure has been that low,, it might not be such a great sight![Sad](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
I know, cos ive just done exactly the same with mine tonight ![Sad](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
having sent my oil pump back to cosworth
4x4 oil pump looks like this mate/
that slilcone on the pick up pipe is sealant from (probably the sump)
that COULD be whats causing your low pressure
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tell you what mate, i would take a look at your bearings while you got it apart,, if the oil pressure has been that low,, it might not be such a great sight
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having sent my oil pump back to cosworth
4x4 oil pump looks like this mate/
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The sump was covered in hermotie as was the inlet ....does the 4x4 pickup pipe not sit to close to the 2wd sump?????? checked the oil pump and it looks ok no mojor scoring......not checked the shells yet having a few tins first
before i pop back down..........oil pressure was down to 20psi on hot
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Fuck me ....mine was not that bad thank god.....i know 1 thing though there will not 1 drop of the stuff on the engine when it goes back together..
Was the engine ok?????
Was the engine ok?????
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Fuck me ....mine was not that bad thank god.....i know 1 thing though there will not 1 drop of the stuff on the engine when it goes back together..
Was the engine ok?????
Was the engine ok?????
That engine was fooked but was past its 'sell by' date anyway so it didn't bother me
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well the shells are like new and the pump looks ok so if a 4x4 pump and pickup pipe is ok the only thing i can see is the shit on the pickup pipe but i would say only about half was covered would this be enough????
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when i measured the bottom of pickup pipe from the bottom of block then measured the inside of the sump theres not much room pickup pipe is going to be sat really close to the inside of the sump also there was little marks on the inside of the sump were the pickup pipe sits looks like it has been vibrating and hitting the sump?????????? ive got a 2wd oil pump so i am going to try and get a pickup pipe and change it to make sure
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ford do a special sump sealer for 4x4 cosworth engines, that had no gasket, i would use that ,ive had no probs its only Ł7.50....
Also double check with your supplier that the part numbers on your new pump are not in those that are faulty...... and create too much pressure ,otherwise you will be doing it all over again.
Also double check with your supplier that the part numbers on your new pump are not in those that are faulty...... and create too much pressure ,otherwise you will be doing it all over again.
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You know when i said im sure the pickup pipe was sitting to close to the inside of the sump well look at this
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see were it has been hitting...............so i am definately putting my 2wd pump&pipe on when i put it back together.....
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see were it has been hitting...............so i am definately putting my 2wd pump&pipe on when i put it back together.....
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?????????? ive got a 2wd oil pump so i am going to try and get a pickup pipe and change it to make sure
Mines got the same pattern, but i'm not convinced its the pickup being too close thats caused it - its only been run for 5 minutes.
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what sort of pressure are you getting???? does it change from cold to hot?????......i am getting 40psi at cold and 20-25psi at full temp, it is a 4wd 200block in a 2wd saff shells look mint as does oil pump, the only other thing i could think of apart from the oil pump is the little spring that go's in the side of the pump the one you change when you get the high pressure oil pump kit.....if this spring had lost it's goodness would this cause low oil pressure problem???????
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Well i was getting 65psi at cold idle for the first 60 secs, then absolutely zero. i tried it several times. Needless to say the engine hasn't run long enough to find out what its like hot.
4wd hp pump and pickup, 2wd sump on a 200 block. I measured the clearance between the pickup and the sump - its 6mm. Well it was untill i cut the pipe into 3 bits and had just the two brazed back together. Should have around 15mm clearance now
Will find out in about 3 hours if its worked.
4wd hp pump and pickup, 2wd sump on a 200 block. I measured the clearance between the pickup and the sump - its 6mm. Well it was untill i cut the pipe into 3 bits and had just the two brazed back together. Should have around 15mm clearance now
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Will find out in about 3 hours if its worked.
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happy for you i know what its like......ive just cleaned my 2wd pickup pipe to put on but the oil pump looks a bit used so im going to buy a new one ive already got a high pressure oil pump kit to go in and see what happends.......
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Well its still fucked. It was working perfectly, 65psi, the flutter from the guage had dissapeared, the turbo and lifters had shut up. then a quick blast up and down the drive, blip the revs a bit and zero oil pressure
So culprit could be one of several things.
Guage and warning light faulty
remote filter and pipework faulty
pressure releif valve sticking open, closes when cranked on the starter
pickup still too close to the sump
something I haven't thought off
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So culprit could be one of several things.
Guage and warning light faulty
remote filter and pipework faulty
pressure releif valve sticking open, closes when cranked on the starter
pickup still too close to the sump
something I haven't thought off
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mate there is almost No way the Light AND the gauge are faulty
PLEEEEASE dont use the car again till you fixed it!!
mine only ran twice with similar problems and i ended up having to buy a new crank where it got so damaged.![Sad](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
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PLEEEEASE dont use the car again till you fixed it!!
mine only ran twice with similar problems and i ended up having to buy a new crank where it got so damaged.
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Also.. your remote oil filter,, the sandwich plate isnt a thermostat type one is it?? opens when the oil reaches certain temp???
(might of been put on by mistake?)
if so could that have something to do with it??
(might of been put on by mistake?)
if so could that have something to do with it??
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Also.. your remote oil filter,, the sandwich plate isnt a thermostat type one is it??
PLEEEEASE dont use the car again till you fixed it!!
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Hasn't the 4wd pump got two feeds to the rotor instead of one?
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