MadMac

Especially from landrovers/high vehicles

Is it just me or are these lights totally blinding at night? Had a landrover following me the other night and the light from the lamps was so bright I had to turn my wing mirrors up because everytime I caught them in them I couldn't see anything!

I know they have a particular perpose and they do it very well, but has their been any consideration as to weather or not the brightness of these lights are actually dangerous to other road users?

Or am I just becomming an old woman

Jayen4

I agree.......They are waaay too bright !! It's not just LR's either. I've noticed some new audi's and other makes are the same.
Either they're badly adjusted or the beam pattern is not controlled enough,to start with. I can see 'em causing accidents,cause they do blind you !!

afcgordon

No mate it aint just you.In some case they can be bloody dangerous, especially at sunset when your struggling to see anyway.Mind you ive never had a motor with them fitted,so i cant talk from a drivers perspective.

BM08

As said im sure there excellent for the person driving at night but when your a oncoming vehicle there just too damn bright, sometimes i flash people thinking they left full beam on by mistake until they flash me back and there lights go even brighter

Thrush

iTrader: (1)

That would be XENON

BM08

yeah mate, too bloody bright, as topic

EssexBoyRacer

I've had this before too, mainly in Range rovers because of how high the lights are off the ground.

Just fitted HIDs to my saph tonite and noticed how blinding they are if you look directly at the light - Im a bit worried about blinding on comming drivers!

Jayen4

Yeah,then it's .......''Aaaargh, I've gone blind'',eh ?? LOL !!

Ollie.

By law XENON lights have to be self levelling and have washers so they do not blind other drivers......

But i agree that they do....

Speedy Gonzalez

im always being blinded by them something should be done about them cos they will cause deaths on the roads

Anonymous

EXNON

ajjames

did you buy one of the hid conversion kits or did you make your own set up as i am considering doing my escort cos ones

radiant red

yes

Madbradz

Especially if the car goes over a bump or something behind you its like there flashing you!

They give me a headache too

DazC

iTrader: (1)

The issue isn't the lamps them selves. It's the angle that they are set too!

foreigneRS

the law is that headlights cannot be more than 55W on dipped beam, but as xenon lights consume far less power than halogen, the actual brightness is much higher. if the law was changed to limit the power capability of xenon lights, or better still base the law on brightness, then it would be far better

EssexBoyRacer

I bought a kit from www.hids4u.co.uk

roybacer

Got xenon lights as standard on my clio and there great

In my last car (peugeot 206) i would have to use a mixture of dipped and full beam when driving at night down unlit roads.

In the clio i've never had the need for full beam as yet as i can see just fine without them

Gota agree they can be annoying for other drivers, but shit happens i guess

I find omega's have the brightest headlights

It's Czech Mate

It is illiegal to use your lights in a way that causes discomfort to other road users if you look at the wording of the law regarding lighting, so i guess if u were cited in an accident claim as the cause of the accident due to blinding someone using ( even dipped) HID lights then you 'could' be liable!!!!

Of course in urban 30 zones, ie residential with streeghtlights the law only requires sidelights to be used anyway

EssexBoyRacer

But if the lighting was in no way modified from the manufactures production but still caused "discomfort to other road users" are you the driver still liable?

also say you fit an E marked road legal aftermarket HID kit to your car all correct to the installation instructions without any further modification. Does this still make you liable?

It's Czech Mate

As far as i'm aware the wording od the law makes no mention of legality of lights just using in a manner which causes discomfort.. If they were illiegally fitted then there would be construction and use law issues. Aftermarket ones dont have to be self levelling like oem ones IIRC