Testing of my new 3 way adjustable struts
10-04-2006, 11:42 AM
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Testing of my new 3 way adjustable struts
The handling on the Scoob is unreal with these new AST 3 way, remote resevoir struts on.
Together with some handling training by my mate, it's all starting to come together now.
Me testing the setup last week......
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/images/sn...pecc-test2.wmv
Roll on TOTB handling circuit, after some more mod's and further track setup time.
Together with some handling training by my mate, it's all starting to come together now.
Me testing the setup last week......
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/images/sn...pecc-test2.wmv
Roll on TOTB handling circuit, after some more mod's and further track setup time.
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10-04-2006, 01:18 PM
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Mike,
That is ME you donkey!!!!!! Do you still think the driver is awesome now!!! roflol
Considering you had never seen me drive before, it has to be said you were digging yourself a HUGE hole when you made previous comments about any ability I had (or didnt have)! 
It's the fruits of Simon's driver training though to be perfectly honest. He is a top driver and instructor!
89XR2,
It is at a secret test facility on an adverse handling circuit.
That is ME you donkey!!!!!! Do you still think the driver is awesome now!!! roflol
Considering you had never seen me drive before, it has to be said you were digging yourself a HUGE hole when you made previous comments about any ability I had (or didnt have)! It's the fruits of Simon's driver training though to be perfectly honest. He is a top driver and instructor!
89XR2,
It is at a secret test facility on an adverse handling circuit.
10-04-2006, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I SO wish I could left foot brake 
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,Mike - lets make a deal. I teach you LFB, you give me SPECIAL discount on stuff?
10-04-2006, 01:27 PM
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Mike,
That is ME you donkey!!!!!! Do you still think the driver is awesome now!!! roflol
It's the fruits of Simon's driver training!
That is ME you donkey!!!!!! Do you still think the driver is awesome now!!! roflol
It's the fruits of Simon's driver training!
If it is, then I have no pithy come-back, just quiet respect. Driving is my "thing", so anyone good at it, is instantly elevated to a higher respect level
. You're now just above a "pikey", but that 's only due to your previous status before this 
.
10-04-2006, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I SO wish I could left foot brake ,
,Mike - lets make a deal. I teach you LFB, you give me SPECIAL discount on stuff?
. I don't think the Ring is anywhere to try LFB .
10-04-2006, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Fagin
Azrael,
What do you want to know?
What do you want to know?
Everything
Do they work with standard top mounts or some specials?
10-04-2006, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
It will end in tears - mine after the car hits something substantial . I don't think the Ring is anywhere to try LFB .
. I don't think the Ring is anywhere to try LFB .There are nice mountain roads nearby
But the fact is that you have to learn to brake with left foot. Just ordinary braking before you try to use it in corners on FWD or AWD or RWD.. learning to use left foot for braking usually takes weeks :-( With some exeptions.
10-04-2006, 01:43 PM
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Ok...
I will answer what I can. Anything else see www.powerstation.org.uk as they are the distributors in the UK.
AST - 3 Way Adjustable (rebound, low speed & high speed compression - all independant of each other) Competition, Remote Reservoir struts.
Price - £2200 + fitting, geometry and setup
Havent got a clue on spring diameters or maximum or minimum damper settings, but because they are fully adjustable, the shocks will take a HUGE range of spring rates and do not require revalving (like single way adjustable coilovers would).
I have fully adjustable solid top mounts on mine.
This is what they look like:
I will answer what I can. Anything else see www.powerstation.org.uk as they are the distributors in the UK.
AST - 3 Way Adjustable (rebound, low speed & high speed compression - all independant of each other) Competition, Remote Reservoir struts.
Price - £2200 + fitting, geometry and setup
Havent got a clue on spring diameters or maximum or minimum damper settings, but because they are fully adjustable, the shocks will take a HUGE range of spring rates and do not require revalving (like single way adjustable coilovers would).
I have fully adjustable solid top mounts on mine.
This is what they look like:
10-04-2006, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Azrael
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
It will end in tears - mine after the car hits something substantial . I don't think the Ring is anywhere to try LFB .
. I don't think the Ring is anywhere to try LFB .There are nice mountain roads nearby
But the fact is that you have to learn to brake with left foot. Just ordinary braking before you try to use it in corners on FWD or AWD or RWD.. learning to use left foot for braking usually takes weeks :-( With some exeptions.
Would love to be able to do it properly though. Need to find somewhere safe to practice, hence why I wanted to know where the place in the video was
10-04-2006, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Fagin
Ok...
I will answer what I can. Anything else see www.powerstation.org.uk as they are the distributors in the UK.
AST - 3 Way Adjustable (rebound, low speed & high speed compression - all independant of each other) Competition, Remote Reservoir struts.
Price - £2200 + fitting, geometry and setup
Havent got a clue on spring diameters or maximum or minimum damper settings, but because they are fully adjustable, the shocks will take a HUGE range of spring rates and do not require revalving (like single way adjustable coilovers would).
I have fully adjustable solid top mounts on mine.
This is what they look like:
I will answer what I can. Anything else see www.powerstation.org.uk as they are the distributors in the UK.
AST - 3 Way Adjustable (rebound, low speed & high speed compression - all independant of each other) Competition, Remote Reservoir struts.
Price - £2200 + fitting, geometry and setup
Havent got a clue on spring diameters or maximum or minimum damper settings, but because they are fully adjustable, the shocks will take a HUGE range of spring rates and do not require revalving (like single way adjustable coilovers would).
I have fully adjustable solid top mounts on mine.
This is what they look like:
10-04-2006, 01:58 PM
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89XR2,
I tried to get on at Brunters originally, but they seem to have a noise abatement (sp?) issue at the moment and were concerned about tyre noise from sideways action.
Azrael,
Seriously mate.... I would get a proper bollocking.
I tried to get on at Brunters originally, but they seem to have a noise abatement (sp?) issue at the moment and were concerned about tyre noise from sideways action.
Azrael,
Seriously mate.... I would get a proper bollocking.
10-04-2006, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Fagin
89XR2,
I tried to get on at Brunters originally, but they seem to have a noise abatement (sp?) issue at the moment and were concerned about tyre noise from sideways action.
Azrael,
Seriously mate.... I would get a proper bollocking.
I tried to get on at Brunters originally, but they seem to have a noise abatement (sp?) issue at the moment and were concerned about tyre noise from sideways action.
Azrael,
Seriously mate.... I would get a proper bollocking.
10-04-2006, 02:01 PM
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Fagin funny that I never heard the companies namebefore, or at elast I don't remmeber it.
I though that in big teams in rallying here were only such makes as: Ohlins, Proflex, Sachs Racing, Prodrive. A bit surprised to be told otherwise, but I'll learn till I die and die stupid as they say...
I though that in big teams in rallying here were only such makes as: Ohlins, Proflex, Sachs Racing, Prodrive. A bit surprised to be told otherwise, but I'll learn till I die and die stupid as they say...
10-04-2006, 02:04 PM
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I am way off Simon's ability (and realistically would never meet that standard as I am too old lol and havent got the balls). When he got in the car first with me as a passenger, he did a mahoosive 4 wheel drift in tripple figures on another part of the track!!! 
I lost several pounds of weight through my arse!
It's the high speed stuff that gets my backside twitching and after some more testing with another driver at the weekend, I couldnt believe how much grip this car has now and what kind of speeds are possible. It holds lines perfectly and just when you think the tyres are going to loose grip, the suspension just keeps working through the bend.
I lost several pounds of weight through my arse!
It's the high speed stuff that gets my backside twitching and after some more testing with another driver at the weekend, I couldnt believe how much grip this car has now and what kind of speeds are possible. It holds lines perfectly and just when you think the tyres are going to loose grip, the suspension just keeps working through the bend.
10-04-2006, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Originally Posted by Fagin
89XR2,
I tried to get on at Brunters originally, but they seem to have a noise abatement (sp?) issue at the moment and were concerned about tyre noise from sideways action.
Azrael,
Seriously mate.... I would get a proper bollocking.
I tried to get on at Brunters originally, but they seem to have a noise abatement (sp?) issue at the moment and were concerned about tyre noise from sideways action.
Azrael,
Seriously mate.... I would get a proper bollocking.
10-04-2006, 02:10 PM
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AST is a Dutch company located in Valkenswaard-Netherlands about 40km away from my door and about 211km from the Ring m8 so you might want to visit them.
http://www.ast-suspension.com/
http://www.ast-suspension.com/
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Fagin I know what you mean withthis high speed 4 wheel drift...
One one of my instructors first got into Cossie (it was his first time in one) first corner we went through was very long tightening righthander, round it you get in 3rd, he just put it from 4th into 3rd and sidestepped the clutch.... and stepped on it... I nearly torn passengers doorhandle off. And then when all the smoke was left behind us he says something like "wow Inever expected it to be as tail happy". Imagine it was first corner in the car, before that he only adjusted his seat and drove out of car park
One one of my instructors first got into Cossie (it was his first time in one) first corner we went through was very long tightening righthander, round it you get in 3rd, he just put it from 4th into 3rd and sidestepped the clutch.... and stepped on it... I nearly torn passengers doorhandle off. And then when all the smoke was left behind us he says something like "wow Inever expected it to be as tail happy". Imagine it was first corner in the car, before that he only adjusted his seat and drove out of car park
10-04-2006, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Azrael
Fagin I know what you mean withthis high speed 4 wheel drift...
One one of my instructors first got into Cossie (it was his first time in one) first corner we went through was very long tightening righthander, round it you get in 3rd, he just put it from 4th into 3rd and sidestepped the clutch.... and stepped on it... I nearly torn passengers doorhandle off. And then when all the smoke was left behind us he says something like "wow Inever expected it to be as tail happy". Imagine it was first corner in the car, before that he only adjusted his seat and drove out of car park
One one of my instructors first got into Cossie (it was his first time in one) first corner we went through was very long tightening righthander, round it you get in 3rd, he just put it from 4th into 3rd and sidestepped the clutch.... and stepped on it... I nearly torn passengers doorhandle off. And then when all the smoke was left behind us he says something like "wow Inever expected it to be as tail happy". Imagine it was first corner in the car, before that he only adjusted his seat and drove out of car park
I know mate.... my brain can't even comprehend that kind of stuff. I always find myself tensing up and backing off at big speeds (well, what I call big speeds).
I would LOVE to have the confidence to do that, but it is amazing how much confidence you get from being next to someone that shows you what YOU'RE car is capable of. As I always feel "It's going to go, it's going to go", when in fact the car can have a much bigger threshold than the drivers arse does.
10-04-2006, 02:27 PM
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Fagin one of thsoe instructors made me enter small rally last year and as the stages were pretty short he commented on every single corner and there was sequence of blind corners through which he told me to go flat out, and said something like this "If you cut for the tree you see over the crest you will make it, otherwise you're goina crash very badly" The worst part was that he did all that sitting in a cafe with me and not driving my car... was pretty hard to belive him. I did but keep foot to the metal required superhuman strain of will for me. I was pretty sure I was going to die very badly
Another short story of this kind. After some repirs to my Esocs I went out with my mate and mechanic for testing - he was driving. He has some champion titles in rallying here in POland but in lower fclasses with slower cars, still he has driven many many 4x4 rallycars and street version of them. We went for some corners, a lot of sideways stuff and then comes the sequense - 100m straight, chicane (it was some pedestrian corssing made such way or something) in which we brake fro 160km/h to 120km/h and then straight from the chicane we are thrown into main dual carriage way - he drifts it through all the lanes to furthest one and straightens and says something like this "Damn, this car handles like shit".
Gap between pro rallydriver and us ordinary humans is just unimaginable, they are bloody Jedi Masters like Yoda
The worst part was that he did all that sitting in a cafe with me and not driving my car... was pretty hard to belive him. I did but keep foot to the metal required superhuman strain of will for me. I was pretty sure I was going to die very badly Another short story of this kind. After some repirs to my Esocs I went out with my mate and mechanic for testing - he was driving. He has some champion titles in rallying here in POland but in lower fclasses with slower cars, still he has driven many many 4x4 rallycars and street version of them. We went for some corners, a lot of sideways stuff and then comes the sequense - 100m straight, chicane (it was some pedestrian corssing made such way or something) in which we brake fro 160km/h to 120km/h and then straight from the chicane we are thrown into main dual carriage way - he drifts it through all the lanes to furthest one and straightens and says something like this "Damn, this car handles like shit".
Gap between pro rallydriver and us ordinary humans is just unimaginable, they are bloody Jedi Masters like Yoda
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