xr2fatturbo

found this on another forum!

Rich_w

I would hope that a lot of the seriously modified cars would still pass the "Super MOT" Its the lash ups that will suffer most.

Having said that I can see this being something of a stealth tax...

Martin-Hadland

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where does it say the cars will be outlawed? it looks like they will be subject to a super mot... which can't be a bad thing.

pee vee

they cant just come out and ban modded cars..

that would put every tuner and aftermarket parts seller in this country
out of business!!!

Super MOTS will be fine... as long as they aint like mateys on here the
other week saying they gotta be a foot off the floor!!!

Oranoco

But if you read between th elines it's almost like them saying the normal MOT is inadequate so they will screw the modders over. As long as it gets a few of the bodged motors off the road I don't mind too much. Seems lik ethe powers that be just trying to fource us all into eco friendly transport rather than what we want to drive

Mr S1

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If it gets shitters off the road then that's good but it's just another way of screwing the motorist. what concerns me more is the ides banded about recently about havinga 'black box' in every car so they know how fast you were going at any given time, where you are etc. Thats what concerns me more at this moment in time. That really is an invasion of human rights.

Oranoco

They can fit one of those tell tale boxes to any of my cars. Just as soon as they prise the keys from my cold dead hand

marco polo

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Hi Lads

the way i look at it if it does come into force ....

if the car is done right .... it wont have any problem passing a super mot simple as that if it's just bodged then you probably have no chance


I welcome it , i think it's a good idea it will make people mod their car properly


Marco

FastFordChris

this was released on april 1st so whether this is genuine or not is unconfirmed

Oranoco

marco polo,

I see what your saying and agree largely but the powers that be won't do it properly they will do it as a stealth tax and we will suffer as a result. Our modded cars have to pass the MOT anyway so are they saying the normal MOT is shit?

Rich_w

But the Max Powers/Redlines/Fast Car etc will go bust, if people are forced to do things properly, and not just wedge a 3 foot spoiler on the back of an Astra

mrviper

im geting the feeling thit its time to fuck off out of this country its getting silly

Daviet

if its anything like the mot speedy had to have in belguim it doesnt look good surely i can see it being a good thing if it gets shitters of the road but the laws in belguim car have to be a certain hieght etc of the ground exhausts have to be standard etc

Mr S1

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Thats a fair point Oranoco (sorry fella, don't know your real name !!) Every car has to pass the emissions test if running standard or 500 horses.

RichardC

would it not be better to classify diferent types/levels of mods, then have to have them get an engineers report?

the system is already in place for getting write offs back on the road following a rebuild, so wouldnt this way of doing it be better?

Doing it at every MOT means its an additional cost evry year (result for the Govornment!) whereas getting an engineers report is a 1 off fee, then put a system in place so you have to produce the engineers report at MOT time.

whoops, my bad. Im sure the loss in potential new TAX revinue will kill that bad idea.

what was I thinking......

Rich_w

I dont know about hte Belgian thing. But the advantage with our MOT is its the same for every car. Whether its a Fiat or a Porsche. So minimum ride heights don't enter into it.

However, it would be intresting under a "Super MOT" to say that a RST can't be 6" from the ground whilst a F430 can be. Would be seen as very unfair.

Terry Tibbs

At the end of the day you're modifying something that has been subject to a lot of testing for safety etc. thats what they are cracking down on. OK an d to make more money but you do see a lot of half arsed attempts on the road which are more of a safety risk than the standard car. I see it as a good thing, I'd rather some chimp in his shitty clapped out corsa fail his 'super' MOT because he hasn't fitted stuff right than see him pass a normal MOT with less of a harsh test.

RichardC

thats why I reckon an engineers report would be a much better and safer idea that a super MOT

Ginge !

we all worry too much on this forum

simple solution is to have a standard card like my mates 1.0 nova

charlie luciano

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Black boxes banning modded motors and super mot's its all fucking bollox,if these laws came into effect i would not be abiding them and the government and the police can go and take a flying fuck!

besides as it stands the police have only got one vehicle that can catch me and thats a helicopter.

C L

Ginge !

news flash mate,,,,,,,,,,, in england we have bends ect and crappy roads so even though you can do 170mph you wont do it for long and even if you did they would catch you when either
(A) you slow down for other traffic
( B) stop for petrol ( at 170ish you aint gonna get 42mpg )

or the MOST LIKELY EVENT !!!!!
(C) ITS A COSSIE MATE,,,,,,,,,,,, ITS EITHER GONNA MELT OF BRAKE DOWN,,,,,,,, USUALLY BOTH THOUGH



MAY I SUGEST YOU BUY A HELICOPTER

EIL132

Or as Clarkson says, start with a fast car first

Ginge !

but sooooo true

charlie luciano

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news flash mate,,,,,,,,,,, in england we have bends ect and crappy roads so even though you can do 170mph you wont do it for long and even if you did they would catch you when either
(A) you slow down for other traffic
( B) stop for petrol ( at 170ish you aint gonna get 42mpg )

or the MOST LIKELY EVENT !!!!!
(C) ITS A COSSIE MATE,,,,,,,,,,,, ITS EITHER GONNA MELT OF BRAKE DOWN,,,,,,,, USUALLY BOTH THOUGH



MAY I SUGEST YOU BUY A HELICOPTER [/quote]

Funny enough i'm familiar with the roads and streets in this country particular with the ones in london where i was born and bred, the text i wrote was intended to put accross that i don't like being suppressed and don't take things lying down, my cossie has never let me down when giving the filth the slip or tearing m3's to pieces, wouldn't own a helicopter the far to easy to knock out of the sky, 9mm hand gun would do the job nicely

C L

Ginge !

Thrush

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Funny enough i'm familiar with the roads and streets in this country particular with the ones in london where i was born and bred, the text i wrote was intended to put accross that i don't like being suppressed and don't take things lying down, my cossie has never let me down when giving the filth the slip or tearing m3's to pieces, wouldn't own a helicopter the far to easy to knock out of the sky, 9mm hand gun would do the job nicely

C L[/quote]

Whatever you're smoking - I want some

We're talking about modded car owners getting ripped off with a Stealth tax to get more money out of us, and you're going on about 9mm guns shotting heliocopters out the sky

and I thought Ginge was bonkers

Ginge !

this is a comment from a person who has a argument over how you order a meal in mcdonalds

mark

lol at least we can mod engines and the like over here in other country's

you cant tint windows or mod engine's


at the end of the day what ya all getting workd up about

Thrush

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Mark - I think the point is, that unless your car is standard, you will have to go for a far higher level of scruitineering for the MOT, which cost more and take longer. Being of a higher level it's likely things you would have got away with in a regular MoT you will fail on, costing MORE money. Plus it's possibly the start of something new, which *could* ultimately end up in a ban on car modifications as other country's in Eurpoe already have....

mark

and is that such a bad thing tho

im not botherd no point crying about it as theres fook all we can do about it

Joris_FRST

Well, they do it in Belgium

pjv7771

fuck that im off to cancel that neon steering wheel ive ordered

Phil

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It just means i'd have to trailer my car to the track instead of driving it

charlie luciano

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Whatever you're smoking - I want some

We're talking about modded car owners getting ripped off with a Stealth tax to get more money out of us, and you're going on about 9mm guns shotting heliocopters out the sky

and I thought Ginge was bonkers [/quote]

At the end of the day i voiced an opinion and someone responded with an attempt at sarcasim, so i came back with a bit of my own sarcasim, now i've got on me pc this morning and i see what i left behind has been jumped on and another attempt of sarcasim has been posted up, just for the record i don't eat mcdonalds cos its fucking shit and i don't get into arguments with people over trivial bollox, not saying i don't have have the odd disagreement as i do and i've bashed the odd mug or two as well

C L

Azrael

So how do you pass emissions and noise on 600bhp Cossie?

This sort of legislation may make tuning very hard thing to do.

AlexD

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OOO best stop using cable ties............ lol..........

Al........

marco polo

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exactly and they wont be putting 40mm spacers l on the wheels to bring the wheel out towards arch when they have got massive wide arch body kit on it

GARETH T

my smart car had 50mm spacers

they was tuv approved thuogh

Oranoco

Come on, own up who voted fucking Labour

marco polo

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Gaz

well we wont know what is going to happen , if the worse comes to the worse and it is very strict on what you can and can't do then

i will put my 3 door back to standard keep all the good /modded bits and sell it on

i'll buy a 100% track car ex-grp a or clubs mans somthing like that

as for your spacers , i hope they are hub located ones

marco