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Old 08-04-2006, 03:57 PM
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Default how do you add a Double power socket?

i am in the middle of decorating my kitchen, and the walls are bare, i want to add another double power socket, and have been told i can "chase" from an existing socket, how do you do this? All the tiles etc are off so knocking a hole etc in the wall to hide the leads/power line etc isnt a prob
Old 09-04-2006, 12:55 AM
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The chase is where you chisel a groove for the new cable to go into. That must be horizontal and/or vertical - not diagonal. If there is another socket nearby you should be able to take a spur from that to the new one.

Seem to recall something about only having one spur on a ring, but one of the sparks on here will say for sure.

I think a new rule means only qualified sparks are allowed to do new installations and this might come into that category.
Old 09-04-2006, 07:32 AM
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i dont touch housold electrics if im not sure and i think you should do the same mate plus as the last guy said it is now an offence. At the end of the day mate its yours and your familys saftey were talking about right??
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http://www.diynot.com/pages/el/el018.php

look for info regarding Part P regulations.
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Little tip for you, instead of using a chisel to chase the wall out use an angle grinder much easier and less elbow grease required

And bollox to regulations whose gonna know once its done and tiled over

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Originally Posted by Simon
Little tip for you, instead of using a chisel to chase the wall out use an angle grinder much easier and less elbow grease required

And bollox to regulations whose gonna know once its done and tiled over

simon
perhaps his family will know when the house burns down???????
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Originally Posted by johnnvs
Originally Posted by Simon
Little tip for you, instead of using a chisel to chase the wall out use an angle grinder much easier and less elbow grease required

And bollox to regulations whose gonna know once its done and tiled over

simon
perhaps his family will know when the house burns down???????
Its called DIY and if done right it will be fine which is why he was asking on here

I take it you get someone in to do every single job you need to do then

simon

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get an adaptor socket & an extention leed
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Originally Posted by Simon
Originally Posted by johnnvs
Originally Posted by Simon
Little tip for you, instead of using a chisel to chase the wall out use an angle grinder much easier and less elbow grease required

And bollox to regulations whose gonna know once its done and tiled over

simon
perhaps his family will know when the house burns down???????
Its called DIY and if done right it will be fine which is why he was asking on here

I take it you get someone in to do every single job you need to do then

simon
If it involves my familys safety yes, would you recommend someone who didnt know what they were doing with cars have a go at repairing theyre brakes to save a few quid????
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Its called a learning curve

And if the socket was wired in wrong then when it was used it would just pop the fuse or trip the metre out.

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i am just saying that personally i would not touch electrics in my house as i am not an electrician so would get a pro to do it just for peace of mind and i certainly wouldnt recommend someone to.
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Originally Posted by Simon
Its called a learning curve

And if the socket was wired in wrong then when it was used it would just pop the fuse or trip the metre out.

simon
Has he/you got an Earth Loop tester and an Insulation Resistance tester and know how to use them?

Don't offer advise to someone when you do not have the expertise to do so.

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Originally Posted by Simon
Little tip for you, instead of using a chisel to chase the wall out use an angle grinder much easier and less elbow grease required

And bollox to regulations whose gonna know once its done and tiled over

simon
Don't forget when you come to sell the house electrical sockets are now checked and if you are using the new style of cable with new colours you will be asked for a certificate to prove it was installed by an electrician or someone with part P.

If you can hold of the old style cable nobody would ever know , cant remember the colours though but I bet they are in the link above.

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i take it your in aggreement with me focusv8?
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Originally Posted by johnnvs
If it involves my familys safety yes, would you recommend someone who didnt know what they were doing with cars have a go at repairing theyre brakes to save a few quid????
that goes for a lot of "garages" IMO.. hence why i do all mine myself.

Quite what makes any human being less capable than the next, of screwing 3 wires into 3 terminals in the right order is quite beyond me also!
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Originally Posted by richm
Originally Posted by johnnvs
If it involves my familys safety yes, would you recommend someone who didnt know what they were doing with cars have a go at repairing theyre brakes to save a few quid????
that goes for a lot of "garages" IMO.. hence why i do all mine myself.

Quite what makes any human being less capable than the next, of screwing 3 wires into 3 terminals in the right order is quite beyond me also!
Agree with the first statement as you don't need qualifications to Run a garage.

Disagree with the second statement, its not as black and white as that,( or red and black or brown and blue.)

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Originally Posted by focusv8
Don't offer advise to someone when you do not have the expertise to do so.
Now if you read back through the my posts i have not offered any advise on ELECTRICAL instalations ONLY on chasing out the wall

Also how do you know im not qualified?????

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Originally Posted by Simon

And if the socket was wired in wrong then when it was used it would just pop the fuse or trip the metre out.

simon
The above gives it away, or if you ARE qualified , give up and go back to
delivering papers.


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Originally Posted by focusv8
Originally Posted by Simon

And if the socket was wired in wrong then when it was used it would just pop the fuse or trip the metre out.

simon
The above gives it away, or if you ARE qualified , give up and go back to
delivering papers.


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What is your problem
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so who PAT tests all their electical items before they use them, and every year thereafter?????

Yeah, there are regulations, agreed.. but bugger all to do with safety, just another instance of making you pay more money for stuff.. The qualification is a piece of paper, it bears little relation to the capability or competence of the person doing it.

The shit I've seen in some brand new house installations beggars belief.. and they will comply with all the regulations I'm sure
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