What advice can you give on these?

Things like running costs, how much to buy and what sort of things to look out for, what’s a good price to pay?

I am just testing the water at the moment as I do like my Mk6 Si, nice drive and like the interior, but without spending silly money on a turbo conversion I am stuck at about 150bhp

There would be no way I could afford a focus RS as that’s what I would like and a Sapphire Cosworth 4x4 would be the best way forward for me into Cosworth ownership, as I know the 2wd ones are quicker but I have heard alot of people struggle getting traction with the 2wd without the back end fish tailing

Cheers for any advice/info

Steve

 

Jay at fordsport in Warrington has some nice cossies in at the min, but think he is going on his hols soon. Always sound good examples with service history and he dont charge the earth too. Plus he will give ya the info you require. Stay away from jct28, unless the car is through checked.

 

Cheers

 

Have you been in any Steve?

 

Not a 4x4, Chris Ritchie (filthy Rich) has a 2wd one and he took me out in his but the road's were wet

At the moment I am just looking about as unsure what to do

 

go for it steve, you know you want to

 

where you based mate? ill take you out in mine if you like. 400bhp 4x4 saff

 

Cheers I am based in barrow-in-furness so it would be a bit of a trek to Birmingham, cheers tho

 

Next time your local il take you out in mine Steve.
Ignore the pundits, a 4wd saff is faster than an equivalent power 2wd in 90% of real world situations.

 

Thanks Stu

 

Having just bought one i cant recommend it enough

i went from a S2 to a 1992 saff 4x4

much quiter, smoother, more refined, and stage 3 is

i payed top money for mine (6.5k) but it is all original, and only a few owners.

wicked cars

 

couldnt agree with you all more, had mine about 10 months and still look forward to driving it every day

 

I would be trying to get a standard type one to get used to it first then tune it later

 

If only i still had mine i'm fairly local to u i would've quite happily taken u out

Would a Escos be any help 2 ya

 

well i dont mind them but my RS500 does it for me everytime 2wd fast as fuK
4x4 i just dont trust it as much but it is you that has to drive it
i say 1 thing koni and polybush them makes them hold the road loads better and change the front driveshaft drivers side as they do seem to break on my last two within weeks off getting them

 

No as I would love an Escos but could never afford one so if I stay away from them I will not know what Im missing

Cheers tho mate


Is the 2wd a stronger set up then? as I know very little about these, that was very bad luck with the drivers side driveshafts you had

 

The driveshaft issue is very easily sorted it normally down to the rubber engine mount breaking off and therefore the engine lifts when your on power and pulls the shaft wrecking the CV joint.

Simple fix fit Uprated mounts and i also remove and leave circlip outta that shaft 2 to make it easier if u ever have to change it at a later date

 

Correct.
People always blame the fooking driveshafts and they are in fact very strong indeed, its down to the shonky engine mounts that these joints get pulled out or broken, but people just keep bolting em in and calling em shonky.. rolfol

 

I've lost count how many peeps i know that keep on buying shafts even after i've made the point thats is the mount thats fuked

Theres 1 guy who brought 3 in the last 6 months all because he couldn't be bothered to change the mount he is obviously learning the expensive way

Anyway back on topic they are great car just look around for 1 that right for u and that your happy with the later spec cars have nicer dashboards and electric sunroof & working Aircon if ya lucky if u get stuck i'll be quite happy 2 come have a look at any with you

 

 

Go for a 4x4


standard might be an idea if you want to get used to the power but you will soon need more and get bored i can guarantee you.

getting stage 3 does add up when you take a new turbo into account.

you would save £'ssssssss if you bought one that had already got it done (properly). then u can just take it easy for a while until you get used to it

Also, 350bhp in my 4x4 is less scary than an old 200sx s13 i used to have with 170bhp.

 

In fact i might know of a very nice Smokestone Blue 4x4 Saph that the owner might be willing to sell Perfect car in everyway

 

go for stage 3 car, with history

i was orignally thinking of purchasing a standard one and by the time you have made it stage 3 it can get very expensive:

if you bought a standard one and wanted to stage 3 it:

Exhaust 400
chip 250
4 x greens 250
3 bar map 80
filter 100
actuator 60

then you have fitting on top of that

luckily mine has been modded quite sensibly:

full stage 3
all new engine and gearbox mounts
full coilovers (that creak )
fully polybushes (i think)
b and m quickshift
new clutch

the previous owner who had it for only 6 months, spent 1500+ doing just the clutch and full stage 3

so if you can get one thats been modded, go for it, just make sure its been done properly and you cant go wrong

 

Never thought of that the only reason I was thinking about a standard one was to get used to it, but in the end I would want more power and have to pay Stu so buying one thats done would save a bit

 

Most cars have an exhaust, so a stage 2 from me is £565 fully fitted and setup, so not the end of teh world really.

 

 

unless you were me when i went down

my spark plugs, leads, coil, wiring all knackered and needing replaced !!!

not stu's fault but cost nearly a grand

plus a new t34 at £700. can add up

worth every penny though

p.s did you get my PM stu?

 

sorry should have said about the engine mounts and by the way i have had these done with collins ones on my latest saff and when the 500 is back may just get rid of the car

 

not hard to spend money on these cars is it

thats why i havent taken mine to a garage yet

my best piece of advice, is do as much homework as you can, be as thorugh when checking the car over as possible, and if you are unsure walk away, plenty of them for sale at anyone time

though you may have to travel a long way for the right car

good luck

 

Cheers thats why I thought I would ask on here first and then later on I will have a look about

 

Had my 93 reg 4x4 saph cossie for 11 months and still find myself making excuses to get out for a blast in it,just buy the best car you can afford,never skimp on services etc and get it stage 3'd and youll have a very fast road car m8.

 

If you are serious and the moneys right (ie you have a decent amount) i know of a very nice saff, which was up for sale in feb when i was looking.

the reason i didnt go for it, as it came on over 1k more than the one i bought and was in manchester area, the one i found was in london.

this one looks mint, the guy sent me over 100 photos of it, and it looks spot on.

if you pm me, i'll send you his username and you can contact him yourself.

 

Cheers gingeRS but I will have to wait buying one for now, as at the moment I am just getting as much info as I can on them, then I need to sell my car first to work out how much I can put towards one

Also thanks to everyone else for you info/advice

 

They are expensive to run tho.

I manage 50 miles to £10, on my stage 3. But its worth every penny. The car gets so much respect from people.

People will try to charge the earth for one, look at the history, and if its had engine mods look for one that had the engine mounts done.

and remember that leather isnt everything, I paid £3500 for mine, it is a K plate with 82k, stage three was completed a month before I bought it, it had 4 owners 2 were doctors and one was ford. I have proof of that. Just to give you an idea.

And if you buy one, buy a disklock, a wheel clamp and a Rottweiler.

 

love the last bit I think what I may do when I have the money for one if I do decide to buy I will post up on here again with the specs and if anyone is in that area I will be going to, to help me out with what to look for/at

 

Great cars but the spelling of the name is missing a letter t, it should read as costworth as they do cost bucks if you go nuts on the mods, they also love a drop of the old go go juice and my one is fed with optimax and nothing else, love the cars though i 've had my one for fours and i spent 20k all in, still makes my heart pound in my chest when i'm out on the roads and still to this day they are well rapid and well respected, original ford hooligan car

C L

 

20 k

 

Buying it, paint, engine rebuild, brakes, bushes,suspension, intercooler, alloys the list goes on, all worth it though

C L

 

i went from a sII into a 4x4 .. totally loved it .. the ability to have some grip is good .... but ..
if you get the chance to buy one thats been sensibly modded then do it ..
or get a standard one and do the mods in stages .. you dont need the bigger turbo straight away .. i had greens and stage 3 chip for about a year before i got the turbo fitted .. quick blast down to a tuner and off you go

 

Cheers