Fiecos Dan

Well i done a few trackdays last/this year,

My 1.6 cvh turbo, running std sump, (no Ford std water/oil cooler fitted) and 10/40 semi Morris engine oil, after a trackday yesterday, was hitting 120oC after about 7 minutes of being on track, Before i had to a few cool down laps before going again.


Wot i was thinking-

1. Would a std ford Water / Oil cooler be worth fitting? Do they do much?

2. or Wot size oil cooler is best for a 1.6 cvh turbo running 200-250bhp for track use.

i will be fitting cooler stat, as its a everyday car for work.


My cossie with a 6 ltr sump, and std Ford water/oil cooler, and fully 5-50 Morris E-oil, never goes over 105oC even in 27 ambients and 20 mins hard track session, so problems on that.

both temps are taken from bottom of sump, with a Racetch gauges, which i've checked back to back and with a Temp gun.


any advice would be gr8, Cheers Danny

Rick

defo fit a std water cooler type. They are good, as they also make the oil warm up quicker. It basically means the water and oil should stay roughly at the same temperature. On a track car, u may need another cooler - but defo try this first.

gus

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will be putting a 19 row cooler in mine when done

Fiecos Dan

i did fit a 16 row oil cooler years ago,
but on the road i never saw more than 100oC with out, and 90oC with, so took it off (now on my brothers car)

Micky

What ever the ambient temperture I always see 120c oil temp on my escort.Thats with the standard Ford water/oil cooler.Regards Micky

DanS

eeek thats a bit hot itsn't it?

I use a 19row 235mm cooler, which I have been told is the ideal size for CVH. Hope that help.s

rapidcossie

120 is the point where you need to slow down...

Fiecos Dan

cheers,

do you use yours on the track? wot temps do you see?

DanS

Only done 9 laps in total so far then things went a bit pear shaped but didn't see over 90*c after 5 hard laps. It was a very cold day though.

Gra

my track car RST has a 19row mocal cooler,

Tim

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16 row on mine ,120 is warm ish aye micky we laughed about this last year at donno lol

FASTdan

what pressures were you seeing at 120degs out of interest Danny?

Fiecos Dan

cheers lads

hi dan,

@ 80-100oC = 60psi max under load,
@ 110oC = 50psi max under load,
@ 120oC = 40psi max under load.

heeman10

Dan - As you know I've got the Zetec Turbo in mine, only running 230bhp or so though. On the drive down to Trax last summer it was probably close on 30 degrees outside, and I ended up "cruising" with a Skyline at ***mph for about 10 minutes, and my oil temp was closing in on 300 Farenheit. Using 4000+ revs on the road sees the temp come up past 250 degrees too, and so I've finally fitted my 13 row, 235mm oil cooler and thermoblock. I've only driven it once since, but the temps were very stable, being controlled by the thermostat in the sandwich plate. I'm going to Brunters on Wednesday for the 12-Fiesta thrash with the other fiestaturbo.com boys, so will report back after that if you get in touch, or see a thread on the site

Micky

My engines being running at 120 C at trackdays for over 7 years now and its still pulling well.The thing thats put me off fitting an oil cooler is that I've heard that a high pressure/high volume oil pump is required,which i dont fancy going to the bother of fitting.Also heard that Burton are the only place selling them and that some people have had problems with the pump supplied from them.So heres the question,....Will my standard Ford oil pump do the job if I fit an oil cooler????????

Thanks in advance ,Micky

Fiecos Dan

Mine has never had a problem with oil temps on road, even in 27-9 oC ambients, i only noticed a problem on the track.

who's running the thrash? wot times are exspected?


i run a burtons pump, and have no problems, but dont know a answer to your question, wot oil pressure you seeing at 120oC?

Micky

@ 120C its always over 35 psi while Im on track,thats between 2500rpm to 6000rpm.And just for interest,on the cooldown lap at Donnington its dropped to 90/100 C by the time the car gets back to the pits.Regards Micky

Fiecos Dan

Fitted my 16row mocal oil cooler with stat on friday, fitted above gearbox, but below brake servo.

And done a Trackday yesterday, and on 18psi boost, and 15-20min's hard sesions (with no easing off) oil temp was 110-115oC at hottest.

Along with water temps of 94+oC, but i removed stat, and didn't change.
So time for coolant mod's.

Eagle

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thats what i used

Fiecos Dan

My brothers got a mocal 25 row at the front of his pulser.. still 110+ oC yesterday.

cossie4i+

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Did you have good day yesterday ?

Hope all went well for you

Steve.

Fiecos Dan

yeah cheers, look on lydden post in the track section..