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Old 29-03-2006, 04:17 PM
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Default 600bhp with a t4..

is that possible....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SIERRA-RS-COSW...QQcmdZViewItem
Old 29-03-2006, 04:23 PM
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i think that is abc motorsports one
Old 29-03-2006, 04:24 PM
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600 sounds like pushing it a bit, but certainly well over 500 is possible on the right spec one.

Cant see many people buying a 10 grand engine off ebay though!
Old 29-03-2006, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
600 sounds like pushing it a bit, but certainly well over 500 is possible on the right spec one.

Cant see many people buying a 10 grand engine off ebay though!
Seems like a perfect place to spend ten grand on an engine out of someone elses car
Old 29-03-2006, 04:28 PM
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It might be a 'proper' t4 not a rs500 t4.

Remember Gareth Lloyd has around 600 on race fuel this does not state whether it is on race fuel or not.
Old 29-03-2006, 04:45 PM
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The Grp A touring car version of the T4 is capable of 600bhp on race fuel...apparently the cars used to run that power in qualifying!
Old 29-03-2006, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
The Grp A touring car version of the T4 is capable of 600bhp on race fuel...apparently the cars used to run that power in qualifying!
I think that's the one dingle has. Some of them have f1 internals I think the ggr ones did.
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I got a brand new t4 here if anyone wants it
Old 29-03-2006, 04:50 PM
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do T4's have diff exhaust housings like other turbos?
Old 29-03-2006, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
The Grp A touring car version of the T4 is capable of 600bhp on race fuel...apparently the cars used to run that power in qualifying!
Yes but only one Aussie based team saw 600bhp, 580bhp max over here so im informed.
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Rapid and Rod...what exhaust A/R does it have written on your T4's?
Old 29-03-2006, 05:22 PM
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has got .63 on mine
Old 29-03-2006, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
i think that is abc motorsports one
thats correct from what i have heard
Old 29-03-2006, 05:35 PM
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That is DEFINALTY the abc mtorosport one.

Has the same contact details at the bottom of the auction as the ones on their website.
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ok...so its possible....only on racefuel...or on 98 also..
Old 29-03-2006, 06:06 PM
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that spec aint too far away from mine
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to be fair it would be around the 550 mark but my sales guy has bigged it up a bit but. on race fuel and 2.2 bar it would be very close.will find out soon as going on paul hills dyno once i get a chance to do some miles on it .then il be putting my proper engine in then well see some big power.will post al details soon
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Originally Posted by jhw
It might be a 'proper' t4 not a rs500 t4.

Remember Gareth Lloyd has around 600 on race fuel this does not state whether it is on race fuel or not.
Bollocks, Gareth's engine made 510bhp on 8 x 403s and normal 98RON fuel (back in the day when this was available). It makes approximately 550bhp on what he calls his "qualifying boost" of 37psi . However, he rarely runs the car above 30psi.
Old 31-03-2006, 08:34 AM
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In my opinion these cars would nevr have had anything like this kind of power in the cars... I just don't think the Turbos or just as importantly the intercoolers are upto it!!!!

and yes I know Rod runs a 500 cooler... but NOS has a huge cooling affect!
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by jhw
It might be a 'proper' t4 not a rs500 t4.

Remember Gareth Lloyd has around 600 on race fuel this does not state whether it is on race fuel or not.
Bollocks, Gareth's engine made 510bhp on 8 x 403s and normal 98RON fuel (back in the day when this was available). It makes approximately 550bhp on what he calls his "qualifying boost" of 37psi . However, he rarely runs the car above 30psi.
Lots pf myths about Gareths car cos its such a track weapon.
At totb 1 Both Derek Burleigh & mine beat it Topspeed & i ran the same Terminal on the 500m suggesting i had more Power but less grip.
Mine was running a rather lame 480bhp on the Day suggesting Gareth had less, think Mike has shown why. Yes people were claiming 600 back then makes you laugh.
Old 31-03-2006, 02:06 PM
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we had an old boy in our yard the other day who has a T4 and 8 greens and said he had about 540bhp dunno if thats about right or no?

Old 31-03-2006, 02:41 PM
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no turbo damper
Old 31-03-2006, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Sharp
no turbo damper
no 2wd manifold i guess...tubular one maybe
Old 31-03-2006, 03:10 PM
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looks like a 2wd manifold to me...but regardless of whether its a 2wd or tubular it should have a turbo damper
Old 31-03-2006, 03:19 PM
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An rs500 to4e is not a 600bhp turbo
You need a 0.83 turbine housing and a 60 trim comp wheel this was known as a to4s and are as rare as hens teeth.
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Isn't that basically an RS200 spec T4?
Old 31-03-2006, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
An rs500 to4e is not a 600bhp turbo
You need a 0.83 turbine housing and a 60 trim comp wheel this was known as a to4s and are as rare as hens teeth.
would these turbos say air search T04 on them?

.60 on compresor and .83 on exhaust?
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OT here but what is a Turbo Damper?

Is it one of those little bars that go from the cam cover to the turbo?
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like this...

exhaust actually says .84...


is this any good?






comperssor is way smaller than mine..
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Mine only makes 486 though LOL
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bump
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by jhw
It might be a 'proper' t4 not a rs500 t4.

Remember Gareth Lloyd has around 600 on race fuel this does not state whether it is on race fuel or not.
Bollocks, Gareth's engine made 510bhp on 8 x 403s and normal 98RON fuel (back in the day when this was available). It makes approximately 550bhp on what he calls his "qualifying boost" of 37psi . However, he rarely runs the car above 30psi.
I'm sure I read it on his website but hey. Don't belive wht you read.

I'll take a
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it certainly wont make much power with those 4 blue injectors and 4 greens fitted
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Those 8 injectors combined will deliver fuel for almost 600hp..
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anyone know anyhting about the turbo?
Old 02-04-2006, 10:07 AM
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up again
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weve seen 573 bhp on 8 greens 500 plenum 72mm throttle body t4 with f1 shaft and comp wheel on same spec engine as advertised al bench dynoed by tommy feild and thats corrected data anyone is welcome to ask tommy this as he is not a bullshiter.back in 96 we had 539 bhp and 487lb ft out of same spec engine just 8 greys instead of greens that was on a guy called dave hills bench dyno.that was laggy to fuck but felt like being hit up the arse by a steam train when boost came on.that 500 driven by vinny pearson took al the honors back then 0-100 in 8.8 qtr in 11.54 beat bbrs own car on fast car shoot and won the qtr shoot performance ford.luckily mapping has come on a long way since so not as much lag.the blues on row 1 are because its being run in if i ever get a chance to drive it then its going to paul hills r/r.will post power figs when done.
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Mad Rod Wrote:

Lots pf myths about Gareths car cos its such a track weapon.
At totb 1 Both Derek Burleigh & mine beat it Topspeed & i ran the same Terminal on the 500m suggesting i had more Power but less grip.
Mine was running a rather lame 480bhp on the Day suggesting Gareth had less, think Mike has shown why. Yes people were claiming 600 back then makes you laugh.

Rod,

Gareth's car only did 1 Top speed Run at TOTB 1 which was a sighting Run and not flat out.
He wanted to concentrate on the Handling and 500 metre runs instead.

Which he finished 1st and 2nd in respectivly !
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Gareth has just informed me that his car made 554bhp @ 34psi on DTWs dyno .
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