new set of leads are 120+vat and i need to order em.

im gonna try lennie's plugs and leads tonight and see if that makes any difference.

anyone got any thoughts on the mega-hotness of the engine?

 

RETURN OF THE NAIL!!!!!

 

did bsw set it on fire again?

 

ok, if we're reminiscing, how about this old byoooty

 

guys, please...

 

Jim have you had this mapped yet?

On a NA i believe the ign timing has some control over how hot the engine runs, has your ign timing been mapped as well as the fueling ?

 

andy, no its not been mapped.

but here'smy thinking.

the cams are VERY mild (ie you can run them on a stock car stock ECU etc) so in theory i should notice very little difference when theyre fitted.

but the difference is HUGE (negatively) it feels awful to drive.


ok updates:

drained out LOTS of oil (it had been overfilled)

changed leads - no difference

tried loading the base map back on the ECU. still ran shit... lol



here's a funny one, on light throttle at about 2k rpm (ish) its got a huge flatspot and goes mega-lean. (shows about 20:1 afr) adding more fuel does correct this (ie its not reading lean due to missed ignition events). i'm sure it wasnt like that before, id have noticed!

 

sounds like time to get a pro in

 

cam timming it must be else then grinded the cams wrong.

The only person near you is MOB

 

they cant grind the cams wrong surely

here's a thought tho, theyre not labeled inletexhaust and we assumed they are identical

 

I am not sure will tell you tommow, but the must be differant.

 

im sure i read somewhere that the cams are the same.

i'm now hoping that they aren't and ive got one the wrong way round! i need to get this diagnosed ASAP so i can get it rectified this week! lol

 

if ya had them in wrong wouldent it miss on all that side ?

 

they look the same but are they

 

surely the exhaust profile would be different to the inlet profile?

 

andy, not necessarily, mass production remember

anyway, mine are just rang kent, the inlets have a groove on the bearing journal.

theres a 3/4 chance i've got it wrong!

i hope thats what the problem is!

 

That sound about right, thats why its running hot temps

 

DIY JIM strikes again

 

i didnt do it

but i was asked "are you SURE the cams are identical?" and i said yes

 

you better call STU Jim

 

stuxr4? ive been texting all morning.

it's going to BAR tomorrow morning, and STU tomorrow night if its not sorted in time

hopefully BAR can sort it tho, liam's a top dude it's just he's also a very busy bloke

 

don't forget to reseal the cam covers

 

lol, i DEFFO won't!

just had the symptoms of inlet/exhaust cams round the wrong way described to me... EXACTLY the symptoms i'm experiencing!

looking good!

 

Jim,

Im sure you will have some luck soon, well i hope so

Steve.

 

just ordered a new rad too, so i can sort my water leak out

 

hope u get it sorted but feck me ive just spat my tea all over lol
Dave where do you get em from

 

guys, where are these marks on the inlet cams? i had a look at my spare cams and couldnt see any markings on them?

 

ok Jim, was taking to Fitz to day, al standard cams and piper cam are the same. Kent cams are different

 

ok, but where's the marking

 

lol

did thay come labeld then ?

 

no, they all said VH64 on the box

i didnt even noice that they were different lengths!


now, chich bit of that cam is the cam ournal, as thats where the mark'll be

 

there will be no markings on your standard cam because they are the same

I think you will see the marking once you get the cam coverrs off

 

i'd rather have an idea where to look tho mate, i dont want to take any of them out if theyre in the right way round (as i may only have 1 bank wrong) and if i dont know where to look im gonna have to whip all 4 out and have a good look round em

 

bearing jurnal if covered though so they may have to come out

 

what bit is the bearing journal tho

 

oh, and which side of the engine is inlet and exhaust?

i can just imagine getting that far and going "hold on, which side does it go on?"

 

 

The bearing Journal is teh bit between the 2 lobes Jim.

Exhaust cams are the outer pair.

 

Jim you can be a thick twat somtimes

 

cant see ANY grooves on the cams

can anyone clever PLEASE call me 07974746020 im at the garage now, weve had all the cam caps off and cant see ANY grooves

ta
Jim