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Old 15-03-2006 | 01:01 AM
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WTF?

Just bought this....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=5878154582

Now nowhere does it say that he is applying 17.5% VAT on the final price (in this case £2.99), nor does he state that there will be 17.5% on the postage cost aswell.

Doesn't paying VAT on postage jsut mean i'm paying 35%? (17.5 to him and 17.5 to post office)?!

Very shady, I'm not one to make a fuss, i mean its under a fiver. But shouldn't he make buyers aware of the final price before commiting to buy it now?
Old 15-03-2006 | 01:18 AM
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I didn't think VAT was chargeable on Royal Mail postage ?
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he IS registered as a business seller, but he should have stated his VAT situation on the auction page IMO

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/png-vat.html

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in the item description, the seller should set out clearly the amount or percentage of VAT that will be charged
If there is no mention of VAT in the item description, the seller should not add VAT to the final item price.


also, is he vat registered and can he provide his vat no?

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Originally Posted by jon@work
I didn't think VAT was chargeable on Royal Mail postage ?
royal mail is not VAT registered,so no VAT to pay
Old 15-03-2006 | 06:55 AM
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he IS registered as a business seller, but he should have stated his VAT situation on the auction page IMO

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/png-vat.html

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in the item description, the seller should set out clearly the amount or percentage of VAT that will be charged
If there is no mention of VAT in the item description, the seller should not add VAT to the final item price.


also, is he vat registered and can he provide his vat no?

Rich
yopu mus by law advertised there is VAT to pay,or that VAT is inc in the price looks like he hasnt dome any,ask him why,if you get no joy ask him for is VAT number which you should have got with your invoice and then report mim to the VAT man for what hes doing,he will get shafted BIG time
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Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
Originally Posted by jon@work
I didn't think VAT was chargeable on Royal Mail postage ?
royal mail is not VAT registered,so no VAT to pay
Royal Mail is VAT registered and they do charge VAT:

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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
Originally Posted by jon@work
I didn't think VAT was chargeable on Royal Mail postage ?
royal mail is not VAT registered,so no VAT to pay
Royal Mail is VAT registered and they do charge VAT:

news to me mate as when i asked they said they were exempt

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I have been VAT registered for quite a few years and I say that a seller of goods to a worldwide market (as in this case on E-Bay) should add a statement to ALL adverts/promotions/sales leaflets etc similar to the following (as on my website):

Please note:
Export prices quoted.
For UK/EEC purchases, VAT (purchase tax) of 17.5% must be added to all prices quoted.
Old 15-03-2006 | 07:58 AM
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we charge vat on our postage at work

and with reference to the ebay, he SHOULD say add vat, but not all business sellers advertise that
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Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
...........news to me mate as when i asked they said they were exempt
Pete, if you are VAT registered and you have an account with Royal Mail/Parcelfarce When you set up the account they ask if you are VAT registered, if you are VAT registerd they take a note of your VAT number and then against that number they make you VAT exempt.

If you are NOT VAT registered then they will charge you VAT on all invoice items that are for UK/EEC shipping.........BUT all non UK/EEC shipping is VAT free as it is classed as "export".

Example of a ParcelFarce invoice to a VAT reg account holder "E" = Exempt and "Z" = Zero rated (non VAT item):

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Originally Posted by jon@work
I didn't think VAT was chargeable on Royal Mail postage ?
It isn't, in as much as when you go in to send a parecel the price is 'all in' not plus VAT. The VAT element will be inlcuded in that price so if he quotes postage that's the 'all in' price.
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Originally Posted by Mr S1
Originally Posted by jon@work
I didn't think VAT was chargeable on Royal Mail postage ?
It isn't. Tell him to spin for the VAT on that.


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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
Originally Posted by Mr S1
Originally Posted by jon@work
I didn't think VAT was chargeable on Royal Mail postage ?
It isn't. Tell him to spin for the VAT on that.


Ahh the VAT is included in the price at royal mail so he cant charge it again thats illegal
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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
Originally Posted by Mr S1
Originally Posted by jon@work
I didn't think VAT was chargeable on Royal Mail postage ?
It isn't. Tell him to spin for the VAT on that.


And realised I hadn't made myself very clear so I edited ( BEFORE you posted )
Old 15-03-2006 | 08:26 AM
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Postage company is a 3rd party so its irrelevant what HE charges you for it as your contract is NOT with the Royal Mail, its with HIM.

For example:
I can charge you £1000+vat to send you a parcel that costs me £4.95 at post ofice if i like, nothing illegal about it.

However, to my knowledge, its illegal to hide the fact that you charge vat and the advertised price, in a retail advertisment, is the price you are legally bound to pay, which is why all adverts state "Prices include vat@17.5%".
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TBH it's got me wondering............

I notice that GGR sell lots of Cosworth items on E-Bay, many of these items are available at "buy it now" prices. When you purchase a GGR item through E-Bay (in the UK/EEC) do GGR add VAT to the displayed price???? Anyone know?

And on the other hand........IF their prices do include VAT, if someone outside the UK/EEC is buying from GGR do they DEDUCT the VAT amount????
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We should all go back to exchanging goods like in the middle ages.

Tell him you will send him 2 plump chickens instead
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doug VAT is included in the price.

as i've bought several things from them.

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the bottom line is that he is breaking ebays terms by not specifying his vat status on the item, so he cannot charge you vat.


(as previously mentioned)
http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/png-vat.html
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in the item description, the seller should set out clearly the amount or percentage of VAT that will be charged
If there is no mention of VAT in the item description, the seller should not add VAT to the final item price.
Old 15-03-2006 | 11:57 AM
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Blimey, this thread has a lot of replies

Cheers for all the info guys, The postage price doesn't bother me. Its a dodgy number like £1.08, which looks like a 'before VAT' price.

Its just that there was no mention of VAT on the page before commiting to buy.

With little items like that, i'm not fussed.....its just if it was an item i paid £500 for, i would get stung for VAT on it, which is hardly pocket change on such a high price, and if i saw there was VAT on top i would make a decision to buy or not based on that.

I spoke to him by E-mail, and he replied straight away saying there is no VAT, yet his website (which i am directed to when i want to pay with paypal) adds 2 seperate VAT charges after the subtotals.

Anyhow, cheers for the info guys.
Old 15-03-2006 | 12:50 PM
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My bad
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