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Old 07-03-2006, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by EIL132
Originally Posted by sidewayz
does anyone else thing evo's are better than cossie's





COSSIE'S RULE FACT!
Driven either?
Brilliant
Old 07-03-2006, 10:58 AM
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Yeah Pete I am liking it and fuel consumption for town/urban is far better than the cossie, so that's a big plus

One thing I dislike though... it has the crappiest turning circle going.
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......... and if I remember rightly, the original poster used to have one?

Can't remember, but I'm sure he used to use scoobynet and harp on about this all the time..........
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Yeah Pete I am liking it and fuel consumption for town/urban is far better than the cossie, so that's a big plus

One thing I dislike though... it has the crappiest turning circle going.
Yeh turning circle is a nightmare on them
Old 07-03-2006, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
......... and if I remember rightly, the original poster used to have one?

Can't remember, but I'm sure he used to use scoobynet and harp on about this all the time..........
Yeah he did Rich, he had a crappy black L reg Scooby and called himself ScoobyStu on SN, BigNige will remember him well ........
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Originally Posted by staffi
Originally Posted by Redkop
Yeah Pete I am liking it and fuel consumption for town/urban is far better than the cossie, so that's a big plus

One thing I dislike though... it has the crappiest turning circle going.
Yeh turning circle is a nightmare on them
It's catching me out a few times when parking
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Originally Posted by sidewayz
does anyone else thing evo's are better than cossie's


COSSIE'S RULE FACT!
As a fast road car EVO's are streets ahead, no doubts in my mind about that.
However they will never have the Iconic name of a Cosworth.
Im sure Redkop thought long & hard before going EVO & I doubt she regrets it, but the Cossie is doubtless fondly remembered.
Rod
Old 07-03-2006, 11:57 AM
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Rod, Lynne has an Evo AND kept the Escos as well
Old 07-03-2006, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Daveyboy
Rod, Lynne has an Evo AND kept the Escos as well
Best of both worlds
Old 07-03-2006, 01:20 PM
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I have always liked Evos since the day I saw Kev Atkins' car down at Castle Coombe about 4 years ago... I wanted one, but not enough to sell the cossie for one. My chance came to own an Evo, so I took it I am just very grateful that I bought such a mint, good low mileage one from a top guy off MLR - I made him an offer below the advertised price and he accepted it.
Old 07-03-2006, 01:35 PM
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You can't compare cars from different eras. Technology has moved on so the modern jap cars have all the advantages that weren't available in the Cosworth era. The choice of Cosworth or modern Jap is down purely to what you want from your car.

Just ask yourself one question, will the Evo have the same following in 15 years time as the Cosworth commands now. I think not.
Old 07-03-2006, 01:43 PM
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Maybe a Tommi Mac will. That's the icon for Evos I reckon.
Old 07-03-2006, 02:00 PM
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I love Impreza Evos And Cossies

But all the fighting about whose is best is just childish crap

Let and let live
Old 07-03-2006, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Maybe a Tommi Mac will. That's the icon for Evos I reckon.
Certainly is Lynne
Old 07-03-2006, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by buftyboy
wouldnt want an evo with chocolate internals
Bizzare and interesting statement based on what facts

Something about bandwagon and jumping on comes to mind

Mike
Old 07-03-2006, 02:21 PM
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Aren't evo's supposed to be one of the most reliable car's you can buy? With one of the best engines to date?
Old 07-03-2006, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Aren't evo's supposed to be one of the most reliable car's you can buy? With one of the best engines to date?
Bulletproof if maintained correctly
Old 07-03-2006, 03:41 PM
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One point about it evo is the engine that can handel 500 ho on a stock internals.
But the evo is a newer car don't forget that.
And the yb coswort is also a very though engine you can high horsepower from them 700+ hp or more much more.
Yb coswort engine just need some updating in some area's like the ecu turbo's and in the handling/braking department.
Still like cossie's en and evo's the best stock evo is the evo 6 tme.
But a ford escort cosworth is still my favorite.
The escor cosworth will be on of the top classic cars and the evo maby not but time will tell.


Old 07-03-2006, 04:07 PM
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What's so good about the makkinen editions redkop,is it the name or are they better equipped ?
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Sorry but if that guy is a supposed "pro rally driver" which i assume means he gets paid a wage to drive a car for a rally team. Because if he's a privateer or just gets some money to stick a logo on a car then he isnt pro.

How can you possibly say the lancer is a max power car with all show and no go? Standard form? the lancer absolutely annihilates a cosworth in every single aspect. Acceleration, handling, build quality.

Sorry that reply is just stupid.
Old 07-03-2006, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Sorry but if that guy is a supposed "pro rally driver" which i assume means he gets paid a wage to drive a car for a rally team. Because if he's a privateer or just gets some money to stick a logo on a car then he isnt pro.

How can you possibly say the lancer is a max power car with all show and no go? Standard form? the lancer absolutely annihilates a cosworth in every single aspect. Acceleration, handling, build quality.

Sorry that reply is just stupid.
as is yours

they are both top cars in their own right
Old 07-03-2006, 04:17 PM
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this topic of jap vs ford always gets brought up no matter what forum you read.

IMO any RS is better than anythin jap due to its heritage. the RS badge = an absolute classic motor, no matter what age.

if some one gave me a evo for free id sell it and buy an escos
Old 07-03-2006, 04:18 PM
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A sensible average car fan would buy a tommi mac evo6, a die hard ford/classic car fanatic would go for the cossie. simple as that imo

For your money the evo is a better car in standard trim as its years newer and is full of gadgets, what i'm getting at is that the cossie is only holding its money because of the status and history to go with it not because its a well equipt nice everyday car.

As 2 lumps of metal with history, depreciation not even taken into consideration the evo is a better car but an evo2 isnt, a l reg cossie should be compared to a l reg evo and in that case i would say the cossie is a better lump of metal

Just my thoughts and if i had 18k ish to spend it would be on a Honda nsx
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I've owned both jap and rs motors and ye the fords have the heratage but as a cart the jap motors are better imo
Old 07-03-2006, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Daveyboy
Originally Posted by 89XR2
Sorry but if that guy is a supposed "pro rally driver" which i assume means he gets paid a wage to drive a car for a rally team. Because if he's a privateer or just gets some money to stick a logo on a car then he isnt pro.

How can you possibly say the lancer is a max power car with all show and no go? Standard form? the lancer absolutely annihilates a cosworth in every single aspect. Acceleration, handling, build quality.

Sorry that reply is just stupid.
as is yours



they are both top cars in their own right
As is yours


I know they're both top car's in their own right. Which is why the shouldnt be compared with each other.
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Originally Posted by Daveyboy
Originally Posted by 89XR2
Sorry but if that guy is a supposed "pro rally driver" which i assume means he gets paid a wage to drive a car for a rally team. Because if he's a privateer or just gets some money to stick a logo on a car then he isnt pro.

How can you possibly say the lancer is a max power car with all show and no go? Standard form? the lancer absolutely annihilates a cosworth in every single aspect. Acceleration, handling, build quality.

Sorry that reply is just stupid.
as is yours

they are both top cars in their own right


As is yours

I know they're both top car's in their own right. Which is why the shouldnt be compared with each other.

Blinkered owners who think there car is better than everyone elses
so in the first instance you say a lancer annihilates a cosworth, and the second you say that they are both top and shouldnt be compared

im off home now anyway thank god... night kids
Old 07-03-2006, 04:27 PM
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No I pointed out how daft his statement was that cosworths are better than evo's. Which isn't the case.

He compared the two. I simply showed the statement to be false.

Understand?
Old 07-03-2006, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
What's so good about the makkinen editions redkop,is it the name or are they better equipped ?
No idea as I don't own one, but they seem to be holding their prices much better than other Evos and IIRC there is only a limited number of them.
The Mak is synonymous with Tommi Mäkinen and WRC.

Originally Posted by RS500
One point about it evo is the engine that can handel 500 ho on a stock internals.
But the evo is a newer car don't forget that.
And the yb coswort is also a very though engine you can high horsepower from them 700+ hp or more much more.
Yb coswort engine just need some updating in some area's like the ecu turbo's and in the handling/braking department.
Still like cossie's en and evo's the best stock evo is the evo 6 tme.
But a ford escort cosworth is still my favorite.
The escor cosworth will be on of the top classic cars and the evo maby not but time will tell.


You might find different opinions on the YB engine vs Evo engine on this thread http://www.lancerregister.com/showth...hreadid=103539 The clueless idiot is posting again on it btw.
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Cheers lynne.
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Is that guy the same one who was slating christians rst when someone posted the video of him racing the apt evo?
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I like EVO's too but when i was up at Brands last week my cossie ran faultlessly all day, their was an EVO8 on a 04 plate that had spat its engine all over the track by 11.30 am, was going well up till then, got towed off & oil everywhere.

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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Is that guy the same one who was slating christians rst when someone posted the video of him racing the apt evo?
On MLR?
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Originally posted by Cossy_Killer
Sorry mate but you honestly think thats what makes a car good is how much its worth at the present time an that it won its first ever rally meeting!! it proved itself time an time again....no i think it proved itself to be an ok rally car an thats it! in the early 90s it wasn't all that bad! but where as Mitsubishi creamed every1 for years an years in its era of the WRC an produced a homligation car which is still unbeatable to this day! wheres the cosworth name??ooooh gone!! Oh yeah you have a front wheel drive focus R.S. hmmmmm no thanks! As ive said before there lots of old cars that are worth alot of money like my grandads morris minor! but so what....! doesn't make them special....jst an old dying breed (antique) thats all! this is't about whos got the best investment!! its about roar passion! The fact is you keep ur FORD ESCORT! an we'll all keep our MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTIONS an wheel see who holds there heads up highest!!


i just fell off my seat imagining him telling me he owns a " mitsubushi lancer evolution" wat a loser
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There both nice cars in there own way with different features. I can't understand why people can say either of them are crap

If someone can afford both, then fair play to them. It seems some people that cant just want to slag them off to justify to themselves why they dont have one ...strange!
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
What's so good about the makkinen editions redkop,is it the name or are they better equipped ?
I beleive but do not quote me, they have a Magnesium turbo housing to aid quicker spool up and a few other bits, different suspension as well i beleive but AJ could probably tell you

mike
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by 89XR2
Is that guy the same one who was slating christians rst when someone posted the video of him racing the apt evo?
On MLR?
Yeah. i think so. someone got hold of the rst V evo video and a guy I think on mlr just went all out attacking the rst. Thread got closed pretty quickly if i remember rightly.
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My mate has a tommi mac evo 6 and i must say its the bollocks, ye the turbo is better than standard, wheels are different, front bumper is different, his has a few ralliart bits under the bonnet (stainless boost pipes etc). I think he said there 280bhp standard.

Lovely machine imo and as stated above how anyone can say either is shit is just a narrow minded opinion.

That said why is everyone getting stressed out, he posted that topic up to wind everyone up and guess what he has acchieved his goal.
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You get twats in all forums regardless of what car they're based on

Let the children play
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Hes a proper cock!!!

Let him get on with it CHILD!!
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Love to see him go round a track in the Reyland beast (RIP)

Or go on a top speed run with Mark and then say they're shit


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