gingeRS

I sold the escort turbo this weekend

Im now in the market for my next car, i have some money saved but i am also in the fortunate position that i can get an interest free loan for any amount between 5-15k

alot of my friends have suggested going a different route and getting a different make, such as a bmw or an audi, but i have always liked fords and love taking my car to shows and being part of clubs and forums.

at the minute im trying to decide what to get from the following 4 options

sapphire cossie,

pros: cheapest, cheap performance, always wanted one

cons: oldest, unreliable, could end up spending a fortune just keeping it on the road

escort cossie:

pros: looks, the ultimate RS IMO, performance

cons: would be too paranoid about it, chance i may not have a garage when i move out, insurance.

Focus RS:

Pros: newer car, reliability, could use everyday

Cons: expensive, fwd, fast depreciation?

Focus ST:

pros: BRAND new car, all the toys, volvo engine very torquey

Cons: most expensive, depreciation, not 100% sure on looks

So there you have it, any opinions appreciated. what should i buy?

gingeRS

no-one have an opinion?

matt p

None of them mate

Get a new Astra VXR ive been out in one and they are
really naughty for a new car.

Failing that spend around 5-6k and get a really clean
saph mate, you may find one thats had a new engine
in it for that price

gingeRS

was considering a vxr, but not a fan of vauxhalls, also wanna stick with fords

saff seems the most cost effective option, as long as i dont keep having to throw money at it

Big_Dave_Escort

many people say max u can really havin a front wheel car is like 220bhp before it gets bit wierd and scary

if i had the cash atm car id go for is a honda s 2000 cus i just love em but for a hot hatch cant go to far wrong with a civic type r in my opinion

out of them though dnt think id get any tbh with ya mate

awesome fun cars but drive everyday get yaself summat newer

It's Czech Mate

ST from http://www.coast2coastcars.co.uk Ł16613 OTR

Blows a VXR away in every way. Superb Car Cabin is so much better than the others in your list, you can use it, abuse it, leave it anywhere, it will have warranty and if you take all that into consideration will probably loose less than the others in terms of total spend 9 including fuel, spares/repairs, insurance, servicing and depreciation etc) apart from maybe the FRS or unless you get a cossie and nothing goes wrong and it dont rot

bud-weis

saff,sounds like you really want one.

my advice is spend as much as needed on the right car and spec for you, cos modding is pricey.

matt p

Go with the saph mate you dont need to go to lairy
with the mods etc.

Just keep to running and maintaining it mate and you
wont go far wrong

It's Czech Mate

Riiiiight, so you suggest something newer than a just released ST and yet suggest an out of production CTR lol

Westy

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this in my opinion

why get an ST..?? brand new yeah, but you drive it out of the forecourt and you lost a bit of cash already..

Focus RS would be very tempting to me..

but IMO the one I'd go for is a Mitsi EVO...

It's Czech Mate

...and lose a big pile of cash every 4500 miles when you service it

rsnissan

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is it going to be an everyday car?

Big_Dave_Escort

nah i suggest them cus i like them alot better then the st the st to me just dont look enough to me just doesnt do it for me

Westy

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just service it at home

great cars... would assume alot more fun than an ST.. nfact6 get another RST Rory than an St

petermintrst

Get a saph. try and find a standard one of mildly tuned and you prob wont have any trouble running it reliably as an everyday car

gingeRS

it will be an everyday car, sort of

can use the girlies fiesta to get to and from work, but will still use it quite often.

i have found my old escort rs turbo to be a very reliable evryday car for 3 years now, just wondering if i should expect the same from a saff

focus rs is very tempting, but it is 3x more expensive

gingeRS

all done with rst`s now. bigger and better things

on the hunt for the right saff, they go all the way up to 7k, so was thinking why not borrow more and get a FRS, then that opened a tin of worms

gonna stick with fords though, dont fancy an evo

NathR

Couldn't recommend the FRS enough, give it some more ponies and it's an absolute weapon. If it's a daily driver then I would personally rule out Cossies, if it was something to sit on the garage most of the time then I would say big spec Escos. As for ST and VXR, the FRS still rules as a drivers car and will hold it's ŁŁ FAR better.

If you could stretch a couple more grand I know of one with 4.3k on the clock, as new.

Muzz

I'd be tempted by a Focus RS they hardly depreciate at all and look hard as fook, and go alright too . But then again they are FWD and they just aint cossies are they .

lusi

FRS seems the more tempting one to me

lusi

FRS seems the more tempting one to me

s1 2oobhp

Focus st every time
with the sierra ur goin 2 always have probs with new parts an rust

RichardPON

I wouldn't be buying another Ford, UNLESS it was the Focus RS and it was cheap enough.

Personally, and I agree with Westy, I'd be buying an EVO.

I certainly wouldn't be borrowing too much to purchase a car, as if you look around, you can get a lot of fun for your money.

More importantly, what do you want out of the car?

Performance, modding ability, convertible, track use etc?

Kev.H

I love the FRS and with a few mods its a very good car but Evo's if you can afford the running cost are a fair old weapon FRS is very easy to live with but its no frills and isnt great on long journeys IMO

M7 COS

The Focus RS seems a fair bit of car for the money right now.

I've seen 03/53 plate cars with less than 20K for around the Ł14000 mark. Yes the price on them seems to be falling at the moment but I think it will level out quite soon.

If you want an ST best wait for 6 months to a year when there's likely to be more on the second hand market.

craigybaby

saph cossie would be the one for me there are still quite a few good ones and with the money you will have to spend you shouldnt have any problem gettin a good un you were pretty sure you wanted one when i come to buy your rs

NathR

Kev, mines done a few trips to Germany non stop with NO complaints!

Big_Dave_Escort

thats why i like jap cars u can import cars v cheeply i got a guy i know on my msn that just imports cars for a livin and drives some nice motors around

Kev.H

there are alot of FRS bargins to be had but a mint low mileage car will still command around 17k maybe a tadge less.. Plus alot of them are dropping out of warrenty... and the miles are starting to rack up...

ST is a great car way better spec its just not as hardcore and over time its value will drop like a stone ie like any other new car thats not angled at an enthusiast IMO

edit plus the ST wheels are trully minging

EssexBoyRacer

I think from your previous posts you at least need to go through the experience of owning a saph - if just to satisfy your curiosity.

I dont think reliability will be an issue for you so long as it is a decent, properly maintained car.

Other than looks, you dont really gain much else in a esc cos over a 4x4 saph except for the extra 7 - 8 k price tag and the smaller engine bay! I've been in a few esc cos's and as nice as they are I've never felt they are 7 - 8k worth nicer than a saph.

Saphs look hard which is what appealed to me

Kev.H

theres a couple of saffs with 500+bhp on the trader get one but buy lots of spare pants

COSSIE CAL

get a sapphire good fun and ul get a mint one for bout5.5k+carry your mates round in comfort and you dont have to get out to let them in!!

gingeRS

gonna view some saphs i think

maybe could stretch to a frs, but it is alot to borrow

just have to rack up the miles finding the right car

Gregs

saff 4x4 get the best one you can lowest mileage and f.s.h.

get it stage one chip and full health check by M.S.D. or N.M.S. etc

gingeRS

seems like sound advice

Staffi

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Sounds good to me Gregs, but at the end of the day people on here will have all kind of opinions so the best thing to do is, test drive a saff, frs, and see what works for you........personally i`d have a mint 3 door

Gregs

Sounds good to me Gregs, but at the end of the day people on here will have all kind of opinions so the best thing to do is, test drive a saff, frs, and see what works for you........personally i`d have a mint 3 door [/quote]

yes see what you are sayin, test drive them all see what you like best,
i half wish i had bought a 3 door, but too scared of rwd!

Staffi

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yes see what you are sayin, test drive them all see what you like best,
i half wish i had bought a 3 door, but too scared of rwd! [/quote]

Know what you mean mate, i shat myself at first, especially after Karl had performed his magic on it but i love it to bits now........

gingeRS

going to see a saff 2moro, and hopefully a couple more this week

find myself a minter

Staffi

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Choose carefully gingeRS.......Good luck