is ther any dis advantage in using
12-02-2006, 06:52 PM
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is ther any dis advantage in using
compression struts that replace front anti roll bar on a cosworth if I was to use them is there any dis advantage in using them over the std item any advice welcome
12-02-2006, 07:17 PM
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road car or race car?
and what other suspension mod do you have? i.e adjustable TCAs, adjustable top mounts, what suspension etc etc
IMO there for race cars only
and what other suspension mod do you have? i.e adjustable TCAs, adjustable top mounts, what suspension etc etc
IMO there for race cars only
12-02-2006, 07:21 PM
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road car with coil overs only thinking of buying a set because i dont have a 2wd anti roll bar to fit to the car and cant be botherd to travel 100 miles to pick up a £30 rol bar from a rs cosworth braker cos no one will post cos its to dangerous but burton power is only 20 mins drive from me nd do a kit for £150 + my discount
road car with coil overs only thinking of buying a set because i dont have a 2wd anti roll bar to fit to the car and cant be botherd to travel 100 miles to pick up a £30 rol bar from a rs cosworth braker cos no one will post cos its to dangerous but burton power is only 20 mins drive from me nd do a kit for £150 + my discount
12-02-2006, 07:23 PM
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well i got a freshly powder coated 2wd ARB here if you want it?
where is enfield gimme a post code.
u know u will still need to run a front mounted ARB aswell as the compression struts
where is enfield gimme a post code.
u know u will still need to run a front mounted ARB aswell as the compression struts
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en1 4ej m25 juction 25. know u will still need to run a front mounted ARB aswell as the compression struts how do you mean any pic or more info
en1 4ej m25 juction 25. know u will still need to run a front mounted ARB aswell as the compression struts how do you mean any pic or more info
12-02-2006, 08:01 PM
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i think the advantages is so u can adjust the castor angle for better setup up.
obviously more rose joints and less bushes means more noise and a harder ride.
obviously more rose joints and less bushes means more noise and a harder ride.
12-02-2006, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Ryan
Gravel cars even WRC cars dont usually bother Markk , only advantages are to be found on a tarmac setting in my experience .
12-02-2006, 08:53 PM
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Hi abdr500, The camber of a wheel is how far in or out (+or-) the top of the wheel is from vertical. The toe in or out is how far the front of the wheel is in or out from the rear of the wheel, and the castor is how far the wheel is forwards or backwards of the strut top. the comp strut allows adjustability of the castor. which on an arb is set at the factory. why would you want to adjust caster? If the strut is leaning back slightly it promotes anti dive. Most rally cars run comp struts to remove any play that is in an arb. Gravel cars run with comp stuts and with very little or no arb. ( if the car carnt lean a little it tends to skate off sideways like a Kart. ) tarmac rally cars will run both. The less flex there is in the chasis the less arb you need to run.
If you are only going to run round on the road and tyre wear is an issue ( you dont want to go through set after set of tyres getting the settings right.) then I'd stick with an arb. Also if you dont have adjustable tca's and you take off the arb unless the comp strus are right you can mess up the camber. Hope that helps.
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If you are only going to run round on the road and tyre wear is an issue ( you dont want to go through set after set of tyres getting the settings right.) then I'd stick with an arb. Also if you dont have adjustable tca's and you take off the arb unless the comp strus are right you can mess up the camber. Hope that helps.
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12-02-2006, 08:57 PM
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so what your saying i could run the comprision struts as a replace ment roll bar. its only a road car
so what your saying i could run the comprision struts as a replace ment roll bar. its only a road car
but this may adversley affect your handling, bare in mind my car does have properly valved suspension to suit my needs (special needs
) lolwhat suspension do you have ?
ive alway run without a bar, even on tarmac, and have always loved the way it handles, very sharp precise turn it, very stable under braking.
12-02-2006, 09:00 PM
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iam only runing coil overs but its to much bother now as you said will need other things to run the comprision struts better of with anti roll bar on the road
iam only runing coil overs but its to much bother now as you said will need other things to run the comprision struts better of with anti roll bar on the road
12-02-2006, 09:02 PM
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yes, ive raced with guys who run Comp struts and think thats as far as they need to go with their car, of course theyre many seconds a lap behind me as their idea of compensation is to run a stiffer spring !
Even a Quarter turn on my anti-roll bar changes the feel of the car and the extent of understeer on the front .
The anti roll bars Ford used as GpA parts are Farm yard rubbish on Nylon bushes and peculiar angles , blades on 3 positions , you should see the touring car ones , infinitely adjustalbe 2" tubes with linear bearings and in car cable adjusters !
Even a Quarter turn on my anti-roll bar changes the feel of the car and the extent of understeer on the front .
The anti roll bars Ford used as GpA parts are Farm yard rubbish on Nylon bushes and peculiar angles , blades on 3 positions , you should see the touring car ones , infinitely adjustalbe 2" tubes with linear bearings and in car cable adjusters !
12-02-2006, 09:10 PM
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yes, ive raced with guys who run Comp struts and think thats as far as they need to go with their car, of course theyre many seconds a lap behind me as their idea of compensation is to run a stiffer spring !
Even a Quarter turn on my anti-roll bar changes the feel of the car and the extent of understeer on the front .
The anti roll bars Ford used as GpA parts are Farm yard rubbish on Nylon bushes and peculiar angles , blades on 3 positions , you should see the touring car ones , infinitely adjustalbe 2" tubes with linear bearings and in car cable adjusters !
Even a Quarter turn on my anti-roll bar changes the feel of the car and the extent of understeer on the front .
The anti roll bars Ford used as GpA parts are Farm yard rubbish on Nylon bushes and peculiar angles , blades on 3 positions , you should see the touring car ones , infinitely adjustalbe 2" tubes with linear bearings and in car cable adjusters !
12-02-2006, 09:14 PM
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Yes Tony's right. Like everything to do with handling it's all a compromise based on what you want the car to do, and when you want it to do it.
Adjustability is both a curse and a blessing. You can end up "adjusting" everything till it's worse than standard. Hence hours of back to back tests and shed loads of money.
baz
Adjustability is both a curse and a blessing. You can end up "adjusting" everything till it's worse than standard. Hence hours of back to back tests and shed loads of money.
baz
13-02-2006, 05:33 PM
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I'll take a few pics tomorrow when im back in the workshop if i remember , basically drop links fix from the links down to the upright or in some cases the wishbone , the bars are located on the chassis in fact on the Nissan they go through the Fuel tank at the rear to each side !
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