Sapphire 4x4 headlight upgrade
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Is there any options to upgrade the headlights for something a little brighter and more up to date?
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Hid conversion kits are cheap enough off the bay.... but they are only allowed if your car is fitted with auto adjust headlights projector headlights and head light washers... I know iv just been stung Ł30 by the old bill for having them in my fiesta...
Id just get a brighter bulb plenty out there rather than going with hid kit....
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Id just get a brighter bulb plenty out there rather than going with hid kit....
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Hid conversion kits are cheap enough off the bay.... but they are only allowed if your car is fitted with auto adjust headlights projector headlights and head light washers... I know iv just been stung Ł30 by the old bill for having them in my fiesta...
Id just get a brighter bulb plenty out there rather than going with hid kit....
Pete
Id just get a brighter bulb plenty out there rather than going with hid kit....
Pete
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He was a wanker anyways I think he was been arsey because I was off hand with the way he was with attitude mate.... the car still has them in...... but they are clamping down on them over near me..
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Would go for relais circuit for dipped and full beam (4x relais with fuse and water resistent casing directly to the battery) or 5x relais with fog lamps. One relais for left and right (if for example the fuse for the left headlamp will burn out, the right headlamp will still work).
With HID you can only upgrade your dipped beam if I'm informed correctly but I love it all the same (even if you don't use full beam so often) but hate it if one light looks yellowish and the other xenonlike.
but even with other bulbs you will see a different. using osram nightbreaker and it is a huge different.
http://www.h4-booster.de
Normal voltage of a H4 bulb 13,5 Volt / 55Watt
this pic shows full beam before / after
![](http://s7.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/zcmdlk2m.jpg)
but if the car and the electric olden it looks like that:
12V: 51W
11V: 44W
10V: 38W
9V: 32W
with the relais circuit directly to the battery you have full voltage on the bulbs (like they were new) and you protect the light switch incl. cables cause the currents don't flow through the light/direction-indicator control anymore. it is only functioned as a switch and the power comes directly from the battery....... one worry less of cable fire and shit![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
![](http://s14.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/orabsfgi.jpg)
13,7V from the battery - OK
![](http://s7.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/dlxbxgqw.jpg)
but directly on the headlamp/bulb we have "only" 10,9V (small and old cables, higher contact resitant caused by age etc.) so, it will shine like a "tea light"
With HID you can only upgrade your dipped beam if I'm informed correctly but I love it all the same (even if you don't use full beam so often) but hate it if one light looks yellowish and the other xenonlike.
but even with other bulbs you will see a different. using osram nightbreaker and it is a huge different.
http://www.h4-booster.de
Normal voltage of a H4 bulb 13,5 Volt / 55Watt
this pic shows full beam before / after
![](http://s7.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/zcmdlk2m.jpg)
but if the car and the electric olden it looks like that:
12V: 51W
11V: 44W
10V: 38W
9V: 32W
with the relais circuit directly to the battery you have full voltage on the bulbs (like they were new) and you protect the light switch incl. cables cause the currents don't flow through the light/direction-indicator control anymore. it is only functioned as a switch and the power comes directly from the battery....... one worry less of cable fire and shit
![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
![](http://s14.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/orabsfgi.jpg)
13,7V from the battery - OK
![](http://s7.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/dlxbxgqw.jpg)
but directly on the headlamp/bulb we have "only" 10,9V (small and old cables, higher contact resitant caused by age etc.) so, it will shine like a "tea light"
![](http://s14.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/ncjtggyq.jpg)
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buy a set of bi-xenon bulbs that way you'll have hid on full beam as well, fitted a set to my saph a couple of yrs ago and where a great improvement
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Not bad mate, cossie hasnt been used in a year now but ive got the love again and fancy getting it road worthy now for the odd nice winters day blast!
Need to find me a 2wd mongoose downpipe first!
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Would go for relais circuit for dipped and full beam (4x relais with fuse and water resistent casing directly to the battery) or 5x relais with fog lamps. One relais for left and right (if for example the fuse for the left headlamp will burn out, the right headlamp will still work).
With HID you can only upgrade your dipped beam if I'm informed correctly but I love it all the same (even if you don't use full beam so often) but hate it if one light looks yellowish and the other xenonlike.
but even with other bulbs you will see a different. using osram nightbreaker and it is a huge different.
http://www.h4-booster.de
Normal voltage of a H4 bulb 13,5 Volt / 55Watt
this pic shows full beam before / after
![](http://s7.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/zcmdlk2m.jpg)
but if the car and the electric olden it looks like that:
12V: 51W
11V: 44W
10V: 38W
9V: 32W
with the relais circuit directly to the battery you have full voltage on the bulbs (like they were new) and you protect the light switch incl. cables cause the currents don't flow through the light/direction-indicator control anymore. it is only functioned as a switch and the power comes directly from the battery....... one worry less of cable fire and shit![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
![](http://s14.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/orabsfgi.jpg)
13,7V from the battery - OK
![](http://s7.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/dlxbxgqw.jpg)
but directly on the headlamp/bulb we have "only" 10,9V (small and old cables, higher contact resitant caused by age etc.) so, it will shine like a "tea light"
![](http://s14.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/ncjtggyq.jpg)
With HID you can only upgrade your dipped beam if I'm informed correctly but I love it all the same (even if you don't use full beam so often) but hate it if one light looks yellowish and the other xenonlike.
but even with other bulbs you will see a different. using osram nightbreaker and it is a huge different.
http://www.h4-booster.de
Normal voltage of a H4 bulb 13,5 Volt / 55Watt
this pic shows full beam before / after
![](http://s7.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/zcmdlk2m.jpg)
but if the car and the electric olden it looks like that:
12V: 51W
11V: 44W
10V: 38W
9V: 32W
with the relais circuit directly to the battery you have full voltage on the bulbs (like they were new) and you protect the light switch incl. cables cause the currents don't flow through the light/direction-indicator control anymore. it is only functioned as a switch and the power comes directly from the battery....... one worry less of cable fire and shit
![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
![](http://s14.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/orabsfgi.jpg)
13,7V from the battery - OK
![](http://s7.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/dlxbxgqw.jpg)
but directly on the headlamp/bulb we have "only" 10,9V (small and old cables, higher contact resitant caused by age etc.) so, it will shine like a "tea light"
![](http://s14.directupload.net/images/131026/temp/ncjtggyq.jpg)
That looks like a great solution, very neat
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