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Old 29-05-2015 | 07:52 PM
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I camped every year for last 7 years lol! Hmmm may need your help on something!
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what do you need help with?
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what do you need help with?
You on whatsapp?
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yeah.

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yeah, but no kinky pics thanks
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Well now CF is out of the way time to get her finished! This morning i removed the original fuel pump feed too pump as it was failing when it got hot after and hour so have replaced with new! Bought a new bumber strip at cf will use hairdryer to remove old sticky shit and the door strips as theyre horrid then fit as soon as weathers good! Front brake pads need changing and when getting out my camping gear for cf i found a box of brand new pads (touch) will do that weekend maybe. Will order some under sill clips to secure the side skirts properly and fit my new oil preasure/temp and water gauges too!
Then its just getting her rubbed primered and resprayed (same colour)
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Treated myself to oil pressure and water temp dual gauge out of my birthday money and piped up just need to get a hose joiner as 1 i have is wrong thread size..


















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After work today i finished fitting braided fuel
Pump harness i made myself just got to buy the pump connectors tomorrow and fit, I also cleaned all the shitty double sided tap from front bumper ready to fit new strip!



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At some point in next week or 2 I plan on painint my calipers changing front pads and painting konis as paint is faded/chipped, also plan on getting a few parts on the car hydrodipped in carbon fibre! Saturday driving up to Mildenhall to buy a few bits 1 being scuttle panel as mines fucked all clips broken!

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Looking good Wes, bet it's nice to have it on the road and then be adding little bits to it.

I cannot wait much longer to get mine sorted!

Having the 8 valver is okay (the grey one), looks nice but no guts really

When I'm up and running in the silver one I'll be well happy.
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Looking good Wes, bet it's nice to have it on the road and then be adding little bits to it.

I cannot wait much longer to get mine sorted!

Having the 8 valver is okay (the grey one), looks nice but no guts really

When I'm up and running in the silver one I'll be well happy.
Yh you know, fucked up tonight connected fuel pump and did final connections for gauge I cracked the nut on oil feed pipe to gauge doing it up to much thing is it was t tight well i didnt think so, so tomorrow will go burtons and get another pipe Ł10 i didnt need to be wasting!
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Will add some more pics tomorrow!!!
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Shit one.

I gather you aren't too far from Burton's?
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Shit one.

I gather you aren't too far from Burton's?
Live 10 min away! Another funny day didnt get pic as drove to Mildenhall to collect some goodies drove back and "Kapow" cracked windscreen mate accidentally nicked the edge and on route back wind against it it fucking cracked 😡😁....... Drive was great and she can really move even a bit of sideways action down the lanes 👍😃👌
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Well new plans clutch being new for 1 is a cunt let it off 1mm it lights up rear wheels in most gears and is heavy no good in traffic and after speaking to Damocos I am gonna do hydraulic clutch conversion best bit costing peanuts and thats using new bits! (Ł46)
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So once i get an idea in my head i run with it so i have cracked on with clutch today i ordered the bits to do it and once they arrive i will check threads and order the correct hose to suit! Thanks Damocos!






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My Scorp diseaseal box came with this stuff attached I was wondering if I should make use of it?

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What clutch did you use in the Saff at the minute?
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Bad luck with the windscreen mate
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Yeah go for it if its a direct fit into your mt75 box!
I got an AP 6 paddle clutch (keeping it just going to fit the bits to make it hydraulic gonna keep mine external though cos god forbid anything goes wrong with yours you have to remove your box to see/inspect plus being external its easy access and easy/quick maintenance
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What box is that out of engine size?
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It's the bug eyed Scorpio turbo diesel box, they only did one as far as I know.

I bought it for the ratio's and the longer input shaft.

Just need to get my XR4x4 casing slipped on & i'll have two hybrid boxes.
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Originally Posted by mk22door
It's the bug eyed Scorpio turbo diesel box, they only did one as far as I know.

I bought it for the ratio's and the longer input shaft.

Just need to get my XR4x4 casing slipped on & i'll have two hybrid boxes.
Yeah but what engine lol, also from what I know the gear ratios of the diesel are shit its only the 5th and syncro that are any good hence using mt75 gearing but swapping 5th for diesels longer 5th
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...all I know is the gearbox is from the Bug eyed Scorpio turbo diesel.

They only did one as far as I know.

As for what cc the engine is or its origins or who made it - I do not know.

I know it is not a Ford built engine though.

And from what Damo told me the ratio's are pretty much the same with the exception of the 5th. It was he who recommended me getting one, along with the final drive too. I've heard/read Dojj say as much also.

Some info I pulled off the net a while back, supposedly something like...

DOHC 8v 2.0 litre:

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Rev
3.89 2.08 1.34 1.0 0.82 3.51

2.0 litre DOHC 16v:

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Rev
3.61 2.08 1.44 1.0 0.83 3.26

2.3 litre DOHC 16v May ’97:

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Rev
3.61 2.08 1.44 1.0 0.83 3.26

2.3 Litre DOHC 16v May ’98:

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Rev
3.61 2.08 1.36 1.0 0.76 3.26

2.5 TCi Diesel:

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Rev
3.61 2.08 1.36 1.0 0.76 3.26

But of course anything you read on the internet is sometimes inaccurate?

Hope it's all good, but then before I get into it I'm thinking about selling it all and doing the RX8 gearbox conversion..? 6 speed, close cut ratios, hydraulic clutch.. hmm
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2.0 dohc 16v and 2.3 dohc 16v were front wheel drive engine and box's lol from rs2000 and galaxy!
No there were 2.3d 2.5d both had different box's i was told too get the 2.5d box for final drive and 5th gear but they are very rare!
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Well some of my hydraulic clutch bit came today ������



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Originally Posted by doga-ot
2.0 dohc 16v and 2.3 dohc 16v were front wheel drive engine and box's lol from rs2000 and galaxy!
No there were 2.3d 2.5d both had different box's i was told too get the 2.5d box for final drive and 5th gear but they are very rare!
Your forgetting about the rwd Scorpios that were 2.0 16v & 2.3 16v

I can't imagine anyone being stupid enough to try using a fwd gearbox in a Sierra

Like I say, I'm not sure about how many different turbo diesel engines were available for the Scopio's (not talking mk3 Granada's by the way) I found a low mileage box not too far away so I bought it.

I'm sure we will get to the bottom of it.
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I've had a quick google and the 2.3 diesel was the engine Ford put in the mk3 Grannys, made by Peugeot no turbo mated to a type 9 box - neither use nor ornament.

The only Diesel in the Scorpios was the 2.5 TD with MT75, so happy days!
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I've had a quick google and the 2.3 diesel was the engine Ford put in the mk3 Grannys, made by Peugeot no turbo mated to a type 9 box - neither use nor ornament.

The only Diesel in the Scorpios was the 2.5 TD with MT75, so happy days!
your right about 2.3 16v and 2.0 16v forgot they also put them in scorpios, I know of 3 bug eye scorpio's that are 2.3d ultima's! Damocos is running a 2.5 box in his saph 24v turbo!
You may be able to help me (I hope), do you have any scrap box's or fucked box's mt75 I need a speedo worm/taxidrive/coloured cog
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Also smiley front transit (banana engine) diesels have the longer 5th gear
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And looked on ebay bloke just broke his 2.3diesel scorpio and has an mt75 off it for sale
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The 2.3's were petrol.

I don't have any more spare bits mate, sorry.
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Originally Posted by mk22door
The 2.3's were petrol.

I don't have any more spare bits mate, sorry.
these 3 scorpios are diesel! 1 is majenta red 1 is navy blue and 1 is mallard green
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Originally Posted by doga-ot
2.0 dohc 16v and 2.3 dohc 16v were front wheel drive engine and box's lol from rs2000 and galaxy!
No there were 2.3d 2.5d both had different box's i was told too get the 2.5d box for final drive and 5th gear but they are very rare!
but they used the same internals as it was the mt75 box turned sideways for fwd applications

the actual gears inside were the same, it's just the casings etc that were different so if you can find a push bearing from one of them to fit it might be much easier to get hold of seeing as they made more of them
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but they used the same internals as it was the mt75 box turned sideways for fwd applications

the actual gears inside were the same, it's just the casings etc that were different so if you can find a push bearing from one of them to fit it might be much easier to get hold of seeing as they made more of them
Dojj got issue with my soeedo if i actualy do 70 speedo show 87-92 jumps up n down
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there were, from memory, 2 speedo drive cogs, red and green

but i'm not sure if they were compatible because one would run the vss and one would run the speedo

if the speedo is juddery it might need a new cable, or at least a squirt of oil up it to sort it if it's not been kinked in the past
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Originally Posted by dojj
there were, from memory, 2 speedo drive cogs, red and green

but i'm not sure if they were compatible because one would run the vss and one would run the speedo

if the speedo is juddery it might need a new cable, or at least a squirt of oil up it to sort it if it's not been kinked in the past
My cog is yellow or red from memory took it from transit mt75 box think the cable is new

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Originally Posted by doga-ot
Also smiley front transit (banana engine) diesels have the longer 5th gear
so... is this 5th gear good to build a hybrid box? its easier to get than a scorpio 2.5...
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Originally Posted by doga-ot
these 3 scorpios are diesel! 1 is majenta red 1 is navy blue and 1 is mallard green
There is no such thing as a 2.3 diesel in a Scorpio. As said all Scorpios had 2.5 TDs. The 2.3 diesel was only available in the Sierra before the 1.8 TD was introduced. The Granada mk3 never had the 2.3 diesel, it only came with the 2.5 diesel, with and without turbo.

The box in the eBay add is from a 2.3 petrol.

For the speedo cable there are 4 types of cogs, a red, green, blue and yellow one. The have either 21, 22, 23 or 24 teeth. You also need to make sure you have the right worm wheel in the box, as some worm wheels work with cogs with only around 14 teeth, and those are not compatible with the 21 to 24 teeth cogs.
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Well after chat with Damo cos i have sourced a 3.36 diff ���� just gotta collect next weekend and then its a case of removing mine and swapping lsd into the new diff!


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