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Old 27-01-2013, 10:33 AM
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Default Rear coilovers on cossies

a quick question regarding fitting coilovers on the rear of cossies.

I've heard from various sources that the rear turrets have to be seam welded to increase strength if they're fitted, is that the case?

I'm just thinking of fitting coilovers to the Saph but would like to find out before it's too late and the car is on it's roof in a field because something's let go!!
Old 27-01-2013, 11:02 AM
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Not sure about the turret but iirc the arm has to be strengthened where the coily will bolt on..

It's not a nice feeling when shocker and arm part company.. Lol happened on my 2000E..lol
Old 27-01-2013, 11:32 AM
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Made for an interesting ride...lol
Old 27-01-2013, 12:38 PM
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Mine have been on for 4 years and set hard as fuck so it doesn't squat making the rear wheels touch the arch and I've no mods
Old 27-01-2013, 12:43 PM
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only thing i found with coilovers on the back is sometimes the passenger side hits the back of the wheel well ... couple of well placedtaps on it soon helps gave mine plenty of abuse and it never failed
Old 27-01-2013, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
Mine have been on for 4 years and set hard as fuck so it doesn't squat making the rear wheels touch the arch and I've no mods

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Mine have been fine also
Old 27-01-2013, 01:08 PM
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my gaz i had years ago the car was stock just had a slight tap with a hammer when one touched slightly from what i saw, once i set the ride height correctly i ran 235/40 17 rear tyres aswell with no issues and 150 lb rear springs from mike so she squated well and busted 3 stock diffs with the 3 full bore launches i did lol
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Fair enough! That's good enough for me!

Just wanted to make sure before I bought some! 

Cheers boys!
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Originally Posted by cossie690


Made for an interesting ride...lol
I bet that was interesting Neil!!!
Old 27-01-2013, 01:41 PM
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as above mine were on with no mods to arms or turrets, could occasionally hear the passenger bang the turret but other than that no problems
i think its plain to see that the broken mounting point on the arm above is due to it being rotten
Old 27-01-2013, 02:21 PM
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Aye i was feelin seasick by the time I'd got to me mates to fix it..lol

Aye it was well rotten but I thought they had to be strengthened there as both spring an shock were on the same mount..
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mines had them on for 7+ years and not had any mods, and it get used! never had an issue
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There has been reports of both scenarios so I would not rule out the possibility of the lower mount breaking. Some cars even rapture in the turrets as you describe but most of those have been run without a rear strut brace which stabilizes the rear of the car.

I would recommend you install a strut brace if installing coilovers, and if you want to be extra safe then weld some reinforcements onto the lower shock mount aswell.

Ive been running my car without reinforcements for a couple of years now (Gaz Golds 2wd) and there are no visible wear on the lower mount as of yet.
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As above when I fitted them to my old saph I was advised to run a rear strut braise I never had any probs and i drove my like I had stolen it!
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Never modded mine and have been fine since 2009 - had to knock the passenger side in though
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How come its only the passenger side that needs adjusting? Genuine question..
Old 27-01-2013, 06:21 PM
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mine has billys 909 need mod the bottome were the bolt as the wider and strengthen then also

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Because for some reason the shock sits closer to the turret on the nearside than the offside!

If you look at a Sierra from behind you'll see that the nearside rear wheel sits further in towards the middle than the offside (it does on every single one I've ever looked at anyway!!)!!

When I had my accident many years ago, I looked at mine after I changed the beam and thought I'd bent the shell and was about to break it. I then looked at my mate's 3 door, his brothers Saph and another mate's 3 door that was outside at the time and they were all identical!!

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Never noticed that.. Will look next time my saph is out the garage....lol
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strengthened mine up using 2.5mm plate only because id heard of someones breaking



Old 27-01-2013, 09:01 PM
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they split where the shock goes on (the bottem) as my brother who done all the fab work on mine had to repair mines the put in welded extra support in .
whats the reason for welding the part where the spring would be ? dose it make a diffrance as i would not have thought it would bend there ?
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