R5FORD

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Ok guys,

I went to look at one of my shells on the weekend its brand new in primer.. Its a 3dr cosworth shell with no sunroof.. its NOT a motorsport shell but is a genuine Cosworth shell

Anyone shed any info if Ford did do shells with no sunroof for road use?

Rax

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base model 3dr they did

R5FORD

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Iv heard the rumours but they were all LHD cosworths?

Rax

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No I mean 1.3/1.6L 3dr's just early 83/4/5 base models (no s/roof).I think all the shells are identical,maybe wrong.500's were modded @tickford but started life as a 3dr cos.Other than that motorsport ?

boy-racer-1

cosworth shells and base model shells have slight differences, one being the brake servo mounting holes easy one to tell as the base model is held in by 2 bolts going through and cosworth has 4 and base model doesnt have a hole for a wiring loom to go inside the car in the same place a cosworth does, could this shell not be a cosworth one with a roof reskin? ive never seen a cosworth/cosworth shell without a sunroof before other then race versions

BRAMMER

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It's a Ford spare part so it could be anything if it says Cosworth on the receipt/invoice then i wouldn't worry, i wouldn't worry anyway it's just a shell without a sunroof, maybe worth checking the bulkhead though.

R5FORD

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this is the plate on it-

Mr RS500

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The cosworth shell listings are here

http://rs500owners.com/index.php?topic=36.0

There are also 2 more

Std 1.3 / 1.6 shells

One with sunroof and one without ( different bulkhead and gearbox tunnel )

R5FORD

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its not a base model as it has the cosworth holes, it dosent have the aerial though and it has that plate on the slam panel.

Mr RS500

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If it has the cosworth holes but no sunroof then its a motorsport shell

R5FORD

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Wernt all motorsport shells seam welded?

The Youth.

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no not until they went to whoever prepped them

steve

R5FORD

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Would it not have 909 on tere to identify it as a motorsport shell?

The Youth.

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I might be wrong but 909 isn't just a part number for motorsport its the first 3 digits of grp A parts.
lots of competion cars/parts were group N etc

as a result there are lots of competition cars/parts out there that dont have 909 on them

steve

R5FORD

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Ahhh ok mate..

Well its definatly a cosworth shell thats all that mattera realy.

PAUL S

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Aaron, I have known about your shell for quite some time. It is a very rare shell indeed, its not one of the 909 ones but is an original 1986 motosport shell. These were made to group N spec so had all the brackets etc where as the 909 ones were lightweight group A spec and made in 1989 .

All the original group A and N cars inc the race RS500s were built from the same shell as yours. Very few race/rally cars used the later 1989 909 shells as they came about to late as the cars by then were being phased out.

I bet theres very few left, if any as they all got used up, hence Ford getting Karmann to build a new batch in 89

Perfect for restoring an original race/rally car with.

It will have the correct early bulkhead, tow eyes etc etc unlike the 1989 shells

Mr RS500

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Aarons shell is the same shell that my Caltex car was built on , and as you say Paul , the best shell you can get if you want a race car replica as its a correct period shell

The later 89 built shells were built in big numbers due to the massive succes of the rs500 race cars and Ford thought that the world would go mad building more race cars , sadly when they were outlawed in 91 this ment the demand for the brand new shells was almost nothing . hence why over the last 20 years there have been so many brand new 3 door shells kicking about

Xr4Timo

The plate says
Oaventry and a number, doesnt say much to me
Sierra cosworth
Zonder aanbouwdelen, bare shell, no parts with the shell
Afzetten na primer, remove from the productionline after primer.

Looks like a spare shell or whatever the reason is of a bare shell!

Psycho Warren

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he knows its a spare shell, because its his spare shell in storage

Hes trying to confirm identity of the type of shell which has been answered earlier.

Glenn_

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Another interesting thread.

R5FORD

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thanks for the info both Pauls much appreciated

so makes sense to build a full on rac cr rep with it then or sell it to someone who wants to restore one

thanks again guys

PAUL S

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Keep it stashed if you can, it could also be used to correctly reshell an RS500 road car, all you would have to do was reskin the roof, which is easy to do.

Sonic Boom

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Why can't I have things like this stashed away in my garage
Rich

R5FORD

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Goes nice with my bew suntoof shell aswel

joffy

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strange question but has it got the turrets on the rear to locate the rear suspension springs??

ossie cossie

Is it more likely to be Daventry?

RSRoy

To add to this. In the rest of Europe, in The Netherlands and Germany for sure, the runroof was an option you could thick when ordering your 3dr Cosworth. So over here there are quite a few original 3dr's without a sunroof in their original shell, like mine for example

cossie891

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Put some pics up mate

Hans

"zonder aanbouwdelen"..means without attachments
and "afzeten van primer" means switchoff after primer.
ps iam dutch ..and i have a 3 door without sunroof ,they always said to me that ,a 3door without a sunroof is, a motorsport body.
but last i heard ,when a guy was selliing probably one of the last new motorsport bodys,he said to me that ,i must realise that on a motorsportbody there is no sealing kit ,and most important a lot of brackets wich are on a 3 door with sunroof,and a 3 door without a sunroof ,are NOT THERE so you cant mount everthing together as you can on a "normal" body....
so without attachments must rever too a Motorsportbody i guess.
greetz ............hans

ps Hallo RSROY...

james kiely

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this how the id on my ex groupa rally car reads

motorsport boreham ze00013k
sierra cosworth
met aanbouwdelen
onder bodembescherming
atten-sealer
afzetten na primer
p85bgoboooo1eapt


hans i had some job on google lanuage translater to try decipher what it actually meant

Hans

onder bodembescherming....did you read it correct?
because ive theres a Z in front of onder ..........like Zonder..that means
Zonder bodem bescherming = without bottomprotection
Onder bodem bescherming = under bottomprotection

james kiely

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does onder mean under in dutch hans ?

i will go have a look and see again

Hans

yes it does....

RSRoy

Hoi Hans


I was thinking if I knew you but couldn't recall a car with your name. So did search a bit on here and noticed you've also have a 3dr. Allready begun restoring it?

Vegard

It is probably a Grp N or A shell, regular cosworth for rally use. The RS500 motorsport shells have 0.4mm thick bodypanel and they are all numbered. If your shel has a regular 0.8mm thick panel then I think it must be a cosworth rallycar shell, taken out of production to be used in rally.....

tomnsr

In Europe there is several 3 doors genuine cosworths without sunroof. this is mine:

R5FORD

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just to revive a old thread, i know what I have now but for argument sake if it was a European shell it would be LHD?

james kiely

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did you ever find out what the numbers mean aron?

mine is,and all i can make out is p[may] 85[1985] and after that i could never find

P85BG0B00001EAPT

R4N SS

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I should have bought your shell