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19-03-2011, 02:51 PM
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Bad news mate but i really cant see your logic..
You couldnt afford a simple piston removal and machining job but can now afford to remove the engine, get it stripped down and get the bottom end rebuilt.. Would it have not been easier to just do it the right way the first time? Now you got to spend time and money taking it to a specialist and then getting the work don etc
Tbh I have to agree with Car Collector its almost impossible to own a Cosworth on a budget.. Not impossible but ALMOST
You couldnt afford a simple piston removal and machining job but can now afford to remove the engine, get it stripped down and get the bottom end rebuilt.. Would it have not been easier to just do it the right way the first time? Now you got to spend time and money taking it to a specialist and then getting the work don etc
Tbh I have to agree with Car Collector its almost impossible to own a Cosworth on a budget.. Not impossible but ALMOST
19-03-2011, 03:18 PM
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I was not told the headgasket would not last with my set up.i presumed that the gasket was to avoid piston contact.not to avoid head gasket trouble.if i new that i would of got the engine done.i was just aware of piston contact.not headgasket.nothing was said to me about possible head gasket failure..
19-03-2011, 03:27 PM
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I was not told the headgasket would not last with my set up.i presumed that the gasket was to avoid piston contact.not to avoid head gasket trouble.if i new that i would of got the engine done.i was just aware of piston contact.not headgasket.nothing was said to me about possible head gasket failure..
what your saying makes no sense what so ever.. the gasket that msd used was to prevent piston contact thats why it was a thicker gasket and thats why its failed, You have put all over this thread that you couldn't afford to do the piston machining as the labour would have done you in so i have no idea how you can sit there typing that if you knew this was going to happen you would have got the engine done.. surely that would of been alot more expensive than removing the piston and getting it machined?
Im not having a go or a dig mate but im 100% sure that MSD would have told you that theres a chance with running a thicker gasket especially when they have never used it before
If I could go back and re do things Id re do the lottery
19-03-2011, 04:00 PM
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what your saying makes no sense what so ever.. the gasket that msd used was to prevent piston contact thats why it was a thicker gasket and thats why its failed, You have put all over this thread that you couldn't afford to do the piston machining as the labour would have done you in so i have no idea how you can sit there typing that if you knew this was going to happen you would have got the engine done.. surely that would of been alot more expensive than removing the piston and getting it machined?
Im not having a go or a dig mate but im 100% sure that MSD would have told you that theres a chance with running a thicker gasket especially when they have never used it before
If I could go back and re do things Id re do the lottery
Im not having a go or a dig mate but im 100% sure that MSD would have told you that theres a chance with running a thicker gasket especially when they have never used it before
If I could go back and re do things Id re do the lottery
19-03-2011, 05:06 PM
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Ahh so 0.52mm as opposed to standard 0.4mm
i.e. taller = too tall
Budget restraints : try the thick gasket (a punt) didn't work.
End of. Need to spend some money, get your hands dirty or get rid?
Think James's offer of his '24/7 helpline' supporting you as you learn on the job is a cracking offer!
I'm sure if you set about this yourself and created a 'rebuild' thread you would get plenty of support on here and you would learn how they work, which you might find fun! seriously lol
i.e. taller = too tall
Budget restraints : try the thick gasket (a punt) didn't work.
End of. Need to spend some money, get your hands dirty or get rid?
Think James's offer of his '24/7 helpline' supporting you as you learn on the job is a cracking offer!
I'm sure if you set about this yourself and created a 'rebuild' thread you would get plenty of support on here and you would learn how they work, which you might find fun! seriously lol
19-03-2011, 05:24 PM
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Am not saying he hasnt.i no fine well james will help out in any situation.if i decide to keep the car i no dout will ask them to do the work for me as i have nothing against msd,they have always been good to me.all i was saying in this thread is saying my side as to every story theres to sides to every story
19-03-2011, 05:34 PM
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Sounds to me like Bruny had a problem with his car and put a post up asking peoples views on what it could be and stated the work he had done recently before he got the car professionally inspected to see what went wrong.
Dont see anything wrong with that as i have posted up issuses i have had with my cars before i have even had a chance to look at them just to get a heads up.
Far to many people on here dont read peoples threads properly and just jump on band wagons.
Fucking piss take to be honest
Dont see anything wrong with that as i have posted up issuses i have had with my cars before i have even had a chance to look at them just to get a heads up.
Far to many people on here dont read peoples threads properly and just jump on band wagons.
Fucking piss take to be honest
19-03-2011, 05:48 PM
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19-03-2011, 05:55 PM
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When the head was removed there was a visible difference in the carbon formation on the head surface on cylinder 4, checking with the compressed old gasket the piston protruded enough to be level with the gasket,
There was no way it would be safe like that
The other pistons have been taken down for good reason when the block was decked at some point. But obviously the piston in 4 has melted and the owner simply lobbed a piston in ignoring the fact it was too high.
If the car had seen real hard use at high rpm like that I have no doubt it would have ended up dropping a valve seat or bending a rod
There was no way it would be safe like that
The other pistons have been taken down for good reason when the block was decked at some point. But obviously the piston in 4 has melted and the owner simply lobbed a piston in ignoring the fact it was too high.
If the car had seen real hard use at high rpm like that I have no doubt it would have ended up dropping a valve seat or bending a rod
19-03-2011, 06:01 PM
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Ahh so 0.52mm as opposed to standard 0.4mm
i.e. taller = too tall
Budget restraints : try the thick gasket (a punt) didn't work.
End of. Need to spend some money, get your hands dirty or get rid?
Think James's offer of his '24/7 helpline' supporting you as you learn on the job is a cracking offer!
I'm sure if you set about this yourself and created a 'rebuild' thread you would get plenty of support on here and you would learn how they work, which you might find fun! seriously lol
i.e. taller = too tall
Budget restraints : try the thick gasket (a punt) didn't work.
End of. Need to spend some money, get your hands dirty or get rid?
Think James's offer of his '24/7 helpline' supporting you as you learn on the job is a cracking offer!
I'm sure if you set about this yourself and created a 'rebuild' thread you would get plenty of support on here and you would learn how they work, which you might find fun! seriously lol
i've asked what the piston was protruding
all whats been said is 0.12mm higher than the other pistons. the pistons are'nt standard because they are 7.2-1 cr.
19-03-2011, 06:02 PM
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When the head was removed there was a visible difference in the carbon formation on the head surface on cylinder 4, checking with the compressed old gasket the piston protruded enough to be level with the gasket,
There was no way it would be safe like that
The other pistons have been taken down for good reason when the block was decked at some point. But obviously the piston in 4 has melted and the owner simply lobbed a piston in ignoring the fact it was too high.
If the car had seen real hard use at high rpm like that I have no doubt it would have ended up dropping a valve seat or bending a rod
There was no way it would be safe like that
The other pistons have been taken down for good reason when the block was decked at some point. But obviously the piston in 4 has melted and the owner simply lobbed a piston in ignoring the fact it was too high.
If the car had seen real hard use at high rpm like that I have no doubt it would have ended up dropping a valve seat or bending a rod
so is piston 4 a different c/r?
19-03-2011, 06:04 PM
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19-03-2011, 06:46 PM
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Good for you.and i work succesfully to.i may be tight for when it comes to my sierra but when i have a cossie bmw and lotus to run money can come tight at sometimes and a house to run doesnt help.do i invade over peoples threads acting like a hard funny man thinking you clever infront of everyone.u are the joke pal.so go invade some 1 else
19-03-2011, 06:52 PM
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Good for you.and i work succesfully to.i may be tight for when it comes to my sierra but when i have a cossie bmw and lotus to run money can come tight at sometimes and a house to run doesnt help.do i invade over peoples threads acting like a hard funny man thinking you clever infront of everyone.u are the joke pal.so go invade some 1 else
and as others have pointed out your answers didnt make sense nor does your attitude.
but ur too little of a man to annoy me in any which way so u can either go on and get banter back or chill out. your choice.
have a nice evening, i go to the pool now to get some more sun as its 32 degrees here
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19-03-2011, 07:39 PM
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chill out dude....its a fact them cosworth arent cheap to run nor without trouble.
and as others have pointed out your answers didnt make sense nor does your attitude.
but ur too little of a man to annoy me in any which way so u can either go on and get banter back or chill out. your choice.
have a nice evening, i go to the pool now to get some more sun as its 32 degrees here laterz
and as others have pointed out your answers didnt make sense nor does your attitude.
but ur too little of a man to annoy me in any which way so u can either go on and get banter back or chill out. your choice.
have a nice evening, i go to the pool now to get some more sun as its 32 degrees here
laterz
19-03-2011, 08:06 PM
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theres 1 solution to this : make piston 4 equal to all others and make sure the blocks mating face is straight including the heads face.
now he doesnt want to understand that and keeps finding excuses why it aint his fault but everyone elses.
im tired of the twat and yes he pisses me off. caft dunt.
now he doesnt want to understand that and keeps finding excuses why it aint his fault but everyone elses.
im tired of the twat and yes he pisses me off. caft dunt.
19-03-2011, 08:16 PM
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How am i saying its not my fault at all.u must be some sort of tough guy for saying stuff like this.bet u are a board middle age fat bald man who tries to sound the big man.you are nothing but a keyboard warrior.hard man
19-03-2011, 08:17 PM
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How am i saying its not my fault at all.u must be some sort of tough guy for saying stuff like this.bet u are a board middle age fat bald man who tries to sound the big man.you are nothing but a keyboard warrior.hard man.If you dont like this thread then go DO 1 .its people like u who spoil forums like this
19-03-2011, 08:48 PM
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im not a "tough guy", just someone who has had his own car shop and had to deal with hundreds like you.
it starts with "please help" and an attitude for then to go pointing fingers in every direction accompanied by the comment "i dont have the means".
thats where my initial comment came from : if u cant afford a cosworth you shouldnt have 1 to start with.
i still think this is true allthough it might be uncomfortable for you, but then i am not here to pet you am i.
back to topic now for once : an engine with a different CR on one cylinder is far from ideal. that combined with the fact its a YB with boost is even less ideal. apart from everyhting else mentioned it also gives unequal stress on the crankshaft / conrods etc which is problematic.
the real way around it is that you do fork out cash to get 4 equal pistons as it should be, which u can do in several ways, machining this 1 oddball seems the cheapest for you.
and as mentioned before, be glad it only cost you a HG so far, as piston/valve issues would have been much more cash to fix.
again, if you can't or do not want to treat your sierra to that then probably you are better off in selling it as it will only break again and again and again.
hope this was unemotional enough to not get you going once more but explain clear enough for you to take a decision.
it starts with "please help" and an attitude for then to go pointing fingers in every direction accompanied by the comment "i dont have the means".
thats where my initial comment came from : if u cant afford a cosworth you shouldnt have 1 to start with.
i still think this is true allthough it might be uncomfortable for you, but then i am not here to pet you am i.
back to topic now for once : an engine with a different CR on one cylinder is far from ideal. that combined with the fact its a YB with boost is even less ideal. apart from everyhting else mentioned it also gives unequal stress on the crankshaft / conrods etc which is problematic.
the real way around it is that you do fork out cash to get 4 equal pistons as it should be, which u can do in several ways, machining this 1 oddball seems the cheapest for you.
and as mentioned before, be glad it only cost you a HG so far, as piston/valve issues would have been much more cash to fix.
again, if you can't or do not want to treat your sierra to that then probably you are better off in selling it as it will only break again and again and again.
hope this was unemotional enough to not get you going once more but explain clear enough for you to take a decision.