400hp from a t34.63?
17-10-2009, 01:04 PM
#41
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No need to lower the CR for the sort of boost needed for the power on a .48, the point is you don't want to lower the CR as this is what gives it better off boost ability.
Oddly enough plenty of 500+ cars on group a gaskets, without any problem, and ones that are raced as well.
Get a mountune ?, NEWSFLASH, mountune DON'T make gaskets they buy them in, where from ?(I know).
Victor Reinz do a single layer steel headgasket as well for the YB.
tabetha
Oddly enough plenty of 500+ cars on group a gaskets, without any problem, and ones that are raced as well.
Get a mountune ?, NEWSFLASH, mountune DON'T make gaskets they buy them in, where from ?(I know).
Victor Reinz do a single layer steel headgasket as well for the YB.
tabetha
17-10-2009, 01:14 PM
#42
seriously pay the extra for a 4 layer not a 3 layer if your going for a fully blown t34 it will be better in the long run, mine was a 3 layer wrc one that has blown and mine is long studded aswell. I have just paid £150 for the mountune 4 layer job these are widely used on 600bhp plus engines.
17-10-2009, 01:46 PM
#45
No need to lower the CR for the sort of boost needed for the power on a .48, the point is you don't want to lower the CR as this is what gives it better off boost ability.
Oddly enough plenty of 500+ cars on group a gaskets, without any problem, and ones that are raced as well.
Get a mountune ?, NEWSFLASH, mountune DON'T make gaskets they buy them in, where from ?(I know).
Victor Reinz do a single layer steel headgasket as well for the YB.
tabetha
Oddly enough plenty of 500+ cars on group a gaskets, without any problem, and ones that are raced as well.
Get a mountune ?, NEWSFLASH, mountune DON'T make gaskets they buy them in, where from ?(I know).
Victor Reinz do a single layer steel headgasket as well for the YB.
tabetha
for example, one of our t34.48 chips on light blues has a high ish 7:1 CR, so if you wanted one of our chips you do need to change CR
17-10-2009, 03:50 PM
#46
20K+ Super Poster.
It's determined by how much boost you need to run due to the size of the turbo, versus CR, ie if using a larger turbo you can get away with higher CR as will be less boost for same power as smaller one running harder.
I certainly wouldn't change it at this power level, and know many that have been mapped with std CR in excess of this.
I would never use a off the shelf chip, but only on a basis to get run in or while saving for mapping session, the effects of the mapping session are just too great not to do it.
I just done 130 miles on £20, and it certainly wasn't slow either, not a hope in hell of that with the chips I had, I have 0.97% CO at idle WITHOUT closed loop, and idle is so smooth, low speed running is perfection, this is with a 170,000+ miles bottom end.
It's all rigged up for CL, everything is there, had it on, couldn't see any difference, will take off and sell when I remember!!
tabetha
I certainly wouldn't change it at this power level, and know many that have been mapped with std CR in excess of this.
I would never use a off the shelf chip, but only on a basis to get run in or while saving for mapping session, the effects of the mapping session are just too great not to do it.
I just done 130 miles on £20, and it certainly wasn't slow either, not a hope in hell of that with the chips I had, I have 0.97% CO at idle WITHOUT closed loop, and idle is so smooth, low speed running is perfection, this is with a 170,000+ miles bottom end.
It's all rigged up for CL, everything is there, had it on, couldn't see any difference, will take off and sell when I remember!!
tabetha
17-10-2009, 05:00 PM
#47
It's determined by how much boost you need to run due to the size of the turbo, versus CR, ie if using a larger turbo you can get away with higher CR as will be less boost for same power as smaller one running harder.
I certainly wouldn't change it at this power level, and know many that have been mapped with std CR in excess of this.
I certainly wouldn't change it at this power level, and know many that have been mapped with std CR in excess of this.
17-10-2009, 05:41 PM
#48
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Thread Starter
right right right.... cheers peeps
Hang on, so if my headgasket goes? shall i replace it with a victor rienz gasket? a norm group a, or wrc?
Hang on, so if my headgasket goes? shall i replace it with a victor rienz gasket? a norm group a, or wrc?
17-10-2009, 08:28 PM
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18-10-2009, 06:45 PM
#59
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
jimbo no"s my motor as its scs spec and on .48 it has a 2bar spike and holds 26psi all the way to 7200rpm and yes it comes on boost hard and leaves 2 black lines coming of roundabouts!
18-10-2009, 07:39 PM
#61
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wrc h/gasket
lowered c/r
4x4 head
bd10 inlet cam
std ex cam
t34 .48
400 injectors
70mm i/cooler
2wd ex manifold
4x4 inlet manifold
scs chip
as said pulls rather aggresive and comes on boost at 2.5k all the way to 7.2k..very nice!
std cams will make 400hp but with an inlet cam in they seem to make the power all the way up the rev range rather then peaking at like 6k etc
18-10-2009, 08:20 PM
#62
cool spec nothing like mine lol
mines
205 block std cr
2wd everything
std cams
t34 .48 and have .63
500 cooler
dark greens
group A hg
3 bar
L6
havent got chip yet as i dont know what ex hsg to use lol
and dont know if i need to change anything else lol
mines
205 block std cr
2wd everything
std cams
t34 .48 and have .63
500 cooler
dark greens
group A hg
3 bar
L6
havent got chip yet as i dont know what ex hsg to use lol
and dont know if i need to change anything else lol
18-10-2009, 09:26 PM
#64
...my last Sapphire was pretty much stock on a t34.48 and 803s and after having a custom map by Karl it ran beautifully and was ballistic in everyday use, with so much more low-down grunt than a .63 equivalent car.
18-10-2009, 09:36 PM
#65
Don't be fooled into thinking a t34.48 is sooo responsive you can't really 'feel it'... they make awesome punchy fast road cars, and unless a definite goal of 400+bhp is aimed for (if you're into chasing numbers in the first place) the i'd choose a .48 all day long...
...my last Sapphire was pretty much stock on a t34.48 and 803s and after having a custom map by Karl it ran beautifully and was ballistic in everyday use, with so much more low-down grunt than a .63 equivalent car.
...my last Sapphire was pretty much stock on a t34.48 and 803s and after having a custom map by Karl it ran beautifully and was ballistic in everyday use, with so much more low-down grunt than a .63 equivalent car.
Look at my spec mate what i want is some thing that will hit hard not worried about hittin 400 bhp yet stage 3 will be enough for me for now
i want it to feel like my old s1 when then came on boost all hell broke loose 
18-10-2009, 09:55 PM
#66
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Seriously.. you guys are bastards, im now as confused as barry on a .48 to .63!.. my old ct9 turbo on my gt was Shit, came in so early it felt like a 106 gti.. td04 was another story.. lag lag lag till 4k.. then BANG and whaled you back into your seat.
I dont want something which comes in half way... nothing nothing nothing BANG etc... So a .63 must be for me?
205 block
wrc h/gasket
2wd head
std inlet cam
std ex cam
t34 .48
403 injectors
70mm i/cooler
2wd ex manifold
4x4 inlet manifold
msd live map
grp a coil
im confused... i need to go in a cossie
if i was to give someone some petrol dollar, would they take me for a 2-5 min blast in their 2wd saph/sierra at all?
I dont want something which comes in half way... nothing nothing nothing BANG etc... So a .63 must be for me?
205 block
wrc h/gasket
2wd head
std inlet cam
std ex cam
t34 .48
403 injectors
70mm i/cooler
2wd ex manifold
4x4 inlet manifold
msd live map
grp a coil
im confused... i need to go in a cossie
if i was to give someone some petrol dollar, would they take me for a 2-5 min blast in their 2wd saph/sierra at all?
Last edited by crumpet; 18-10-2009 at 09:58 PM.
18-10-2009, 10:53 PM
#67
Don't be fooled into thinking a t34.48 is sooo responsive you can't really 'feel it'... they make awesome punchy fast road cars, and unless a definite goal of 400+bhp is aimed for (if you're into chasing numbers in the first place) the i'd choose a .48 all day long...
...my last Sapphire was pretty much stock on a t34.48 and 803s and after having a custom map by Karl it ran beautifully and was ballistic in everyday use, with so much more low-down grunt than a .63 equivalent car.
...my last Sapphire was pretty much stock on a t34.48 and 803s and after having a custom map by Karl it ran beautifully and was ballistic in everyday use, with so much more low-down grunt than a .63 equivalent car.
agree with the top there 100%
as for your questions,
head work, cams are a deffinate
18-10-2009, 11:16 PM
#69
Seriously.. you guys are bastards, im now as confused as barry on a .48 to .63!.. my old ct9 turbo on my gt was Shit, came in so early it felt like a 106 gti.. td04 was another story.. lag lag lag till 4k.. then BANG and whaled you back into your seat.
I dont want something which comes in half way... nothing nothing nothing BANG etc... So a .63 must be for me?
The 63 will lag more than the 48
I dont want something which comes in half way... nothing nothing nothing BANG etc... So a .63 must be for me?
The 63 will lag more than the 48
19-10-2009, 12:22 AM
#70
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Seriously.. you guys are bastards, im now as confused as barry on a .48 to .63!.. my old ct9 turbo on my gt was Shit, came in so early it felt like a 106 gti.. td04 was another story.. lag lag lag till 4k.. then BANG and whaled you back into your seat.
I dont want something which comes in half way... nothing nothing nothing BANG etc... So a .63 must be for me?
The 63 will lag more than the 48
I dont want something which comes in half way... nothing nothing nothing BANG etc... So a .63 must be for me?
The 63 will lag more than the 48
yea, and has more lag and will come in with a more aggresive kick surely?
19-10-2009, 09:17 AM
#73
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
iI personally like lag lag lag then when it comes in with a bang it makes the rears loose traction
19-10-2009, 09:47 AM
#74
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So whats the max i could get with a live map?
Spec would be 4x4 engine, with a worked head on standard valves, standard exhaust cam, BD14 inlet, Low comp (not confirmed but think its 7.2:1) RS500 cooler, RS500 inlet manifold, choice of either 2wd or 4x4 exhaust manifold and a t35 .63.
If i could make a reliable 400bhp on that spec i'd be happy.
Spec would be 4x4 engine, with a worked head on standard valves, standard exhaust cam, BD14 inlet, Low comp (not confirmed but think its 7.2:1) RS500 cooler, RS500 inlet manifold, choice of either 2wd or 4x4 exhaust manifold and a t35 .63.
If i could make a reliable 400bhp on that spec i'd be happy.
