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Old 04-01-2009, 02:21 PM
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Just wondering how often peeps get there cossie's set up i.e RR or Mapped? Mine got done almost 2yrs ago and its still running fine (fingers crossed lol) so I was just wondering if its worth getting it done again.
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It doesn't hurt to get it det-checked once a year..
Old 04-01-2009, 05:26 PM
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For what a check up would cost mate it's worthwhile just for peace of mind.
Old 04-01-2009, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nice_head
Just wondering how often peeps get there cossie's set up i.e RR or Mapped? Mine got done almost 2yrs ago and its still running fine (fingers crossed lol) so I was just wondering if its worth getting it done again.
IMO providing your spec isnt anything wild there isnt a great need to have it mapped or rolling roaded

as an example; if you running stage 3, t34.48, greens, 500 cooler, 3 map sensor, standard engine. providing you have a decent chip in it, say MSD as an example, or any other decent chip you dont really need to get it set up. Provding the CO is set at idle it should be plug and play.

as ever tho; i would recommend having and afr gauge and maybe get the fuelling checked on wideband

i would only ever go for a live map if my spec was different to the norm

if you can afford a live map (Ł500 ish) then of course this is the best available and cannot be faulted, but i dont think its necessary in most cases

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Originally Posted by xr_craig
For what a check up would cost mate it's worthwhile just for peace of mind.
just to have the car checked over i think MSD charge Ł150 + VAT and MA Developments charge Ł175 + VAT - dont quote me tho, prices on there website

live map is around Ł500 at MSD i believe

a rolling road run varies quite a bit depending on which rollers/ company you use - expect to pay Ł100 minimum, sometimes less, sometimes more
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It says in your sig 353bhp on what injectors is that?? i'm guessing light blues or blacks

if on greens your really pushing it on top end fueling tbh so be carefull

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I took mine to well lane and it was Ł120. For that it went on the rollers and had everything checked and the boost turned up a little.

I'd rather pay that to know it's fueling ok than pay however much for a rebuild

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Originally Posted by costina
It says in your sig 353bhp on what injectors is that?? i'm guessing light blues or blacks

if on greens your really pushing it on top end fueling tbh so be carefull

Paul
There greens m8
Old 04-01-2009, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by xr_craig
I took mine to well lane and it was Ł120. For that it went on the rollers and had everything checked and the boost turned up a little.

I'd rather pay that to know it's fueling ok than pay however much for a rebuild
Very wise IMHO. The cost of a set-up is so little and is always money well spent.
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Originally Posted by nice_head
There greens m8
I'd get it checked sooner than later m8 thats a bit high for greens imo
have u any other mods ie cams etc and what rollers gave you that figure?

They are on there max and really no room for error

seen myself 344 and 346 on rollers and they started to get lean at the top

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take it to tommy fields (field motorsport) hes in essex
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i would check the car at a RR it something big has happened in the engine-spec. bigger turbo, diffrent manifolds or something.

however, i do take the Innovate LM-1 lambda for a spin 3-4 times a year, just for a piece in mind...
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Originally Posted by olek
i would check the car at a RR it something big has happened in the engine-spec. bigger turbo, diffrent manifolds or something.

however, i do take the Innovate LM-1 lambda for a spin 3-4 times a year, just for a piece in mind...
mines in my car always
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Originally Posted by costina
mines in my car always
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the LM-1?
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Originally Posted by costina
I'd get it checked sooner than later m8 thats a bit high for greens imo
have u any other mods ie cams etc and what rollers gave you that figure?

They are on there max and really no room for error

seen myself 344 and 346 on rollers and they started to get lean at the top

Paul
Just a standard engine with GRP A headgasket and stage 3 bits

I know im gonna get ripped for saying this but it got RR at Engine Advantages

So how much are light blue injectors this days then and wot sort of power gain can I expect from them?
Old 05-01-2009, 07:32 PM
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Get some siemens ones m8.
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Originally Posted by nice_head
Just a standard engine with GRP A headgasket and stage 3 bits

I know im gonna get ripped for saying this but it got RR at Engine Advantages

So how much are light blue injectors this days then and wot sort of power gain can I expect from them?
if its been RR'd at EA, i doubt it made 353hp!

you're better of going for greys or siemens blacks injectors

you wont get any more power unless your engine & turbo spec can handle the extra power - the injectors would just supply the right amout of fuel at the correct moment
Old 05-01-2009, 07:34 PM
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here we go just leave the block alone
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Originally Posted by olek
the LM-1?
Got the Stack Lambda gauge with wideband sensor.
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Originally Posted by nice_head
Just a standard engine with GRP A headgasket and stage 3 bits

I know im gonna get ripped for saying this but it got RR at Engine Advantages

So how much are light blue injectors this days then and wot sort of power gain can I expect from them?
TBH tuners cannot please everyone and people have there favourites so nuff said

imo 353 on greens is a bit much can be done with a bit more fuel pressure but watch for fuelling issues
lights blues are expensive really you need 55lb blacks and a new chip with about 28psi held could see around 370+

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Old 06-01-2009, 09:27 PM
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Ok lads cheers for the advice, im gonna get it booked for a RR as soon as
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All the best fella hope u get it sorted

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Old 07-01-2009, 04:59 PM
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I had mine rechecked after changing the exhaust and was glad I did as the fueling had changed. I also gained 30bhp
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Had my 2WD for a couple of weeks now..it was a fresh rebuild having covered a couple of thou..the bloke said he'd not had it set-up yet since running in but he'd consciously tried to keep it under 4k rpm..i too have continued this trend.

The spec is as follows;

200 block oversized 1.0mm
mahle pistons, std compression ratio
ARP rod bolts
high flow oil pump
Arp stud & nut kit
std cams
MSD chip
Turbo Technics T34, .63 housing
cant remember what colour the injectors are, will check in the light.

car is currently running @ 20psi, i know its dependent on the injectors, but what could i be expecting to see with a proper set-up, or would a base tune suffice..??

cheers, Nik..
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Originally Posted by an1mal_69
Had my 2WD for a couple of weeks now..it was a fresh rebuild having covered a couple of thou..the bloke said he'd not had it set-up yet since running in but he'd consciously tried to keep it under 4k rpm..i too have continued this trend.

The spec is as follows;

200 block oversized 1.0mm
mahle pistons, std compression ratio
ARP rod bolts
high flow oil pump
Arp stud & nut kit
std cams
MSD chip
Turbo Technics T34, .63 housing
cant remember what colour the injectors are, will check in the light.

car is currently running @ 20psi, i know its dependent on the injectors, but what could i be expecting to see with a proper set-up, or would a base tune suffice..??

cheers, Nik..
assuming you have a decent intercooler, i'd be expecting to see 380bhp with similar torque with that spec - as you say it depends on injectors, if the are green 803's (most common injectors in stage 3) then you wont want to push it pass 350ish as you run the risk of laxing the injectors out = runs lean and engine goes pop

it all depends on what injectors you have to be honest
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sorry, forgot to say..has a front mount cooler yea.

Jus checked the injectors, they are green. So its a good idea to keep the boost down at 20psi then..??
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Originally Posted by an1mal_69
sorry, forgot to say..has a front mount cooler yea.

Jus checked the injectors, they are green. So its a good idea to keep the boost down at 20psi then..??
20 psi is about 1.3 bar i think, so i think you could increase it a bit more than that

for your set up i'd be expecting to see a boost spike of about 27psi and hold 23psi - which should see approx 330-340hp

i guess you know how to increase the boost?

i'd recommend you get the fuelling checked on wideband though
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