kosienutter

just been looking at a 2wd as im looking to buy my first cosworth ha ha

my knowledge about cossie's has grown over the years but there are a few things that i want advise on

firstly the saph is runnig stage one with the -31 and chip and a group a head gasket with samco's and lots of chassis upgrades such as poly bushes and ei-bach springs and strut brace's.
now to my knowledge and from all the experts in mag's they say that the yellow injectors limit is 270bhp, 280 at a push.

this one went on the rollers and the guy selling it said 287bhp was made.

to me that would sound like it would have been running rather lean.

getting it re-tuned would not be a problem as at the moment i dont want to go above stage 1 for insurance reasons and cause im a young git.

what my worry would be is has it done any damage to the engine running to much ponnies for the yellows.

secondly this car has been sat around for a year with being started up occasionally.

it had a full respray three years ago and it looks tidy with a few areas that i can rub over and sort out to get rid of the rust myself as i am an elbow grease polishing addict.

but the rear nr side arch has the usual rust, but on some areas its rotted through. does anyone know how to get rid of this and how much ie ripping the old panel out and replacing it with a new one etc etc

the sump plug thread has gone as the owner liked to change the oil every 3k or so he says, but he must have over torqued the sump nut or something, and with that and no oil i could'nt listen to the engine or take it for a spin to check for the usual things (eg boost holding and knocks and for smoke etc etc), anyway he said he could get a mate to weld a bolt to the sump and screw a nut into it, but what if all the shards of metal from the thread have gone into the sump, would it be wise to buy a new sump?

lastly what would be the boost at this spec as i think he said its at 12psi, is that right?

the car will go for 3k as it is. or touching 4k with a mot
would it be worth going for one with a mot and runs for 5k though, as i do quite like this one

thanks for reading this topic, if your eyes have got this far and have'nt bored you

kosienutter

and one more thing do the 2wd's have the 205 block or the 200 block it a 88 model

Nash

iTrader: (3)

I wouldnt worry about the power figure 80% of cossie owners talk bullshit about there power anyway.

I would check the usual things like not rotten underneath, not a ringer etc. If its been sat for a year its surprising how quickly they rot underneath. If its the front wing thats rotten i would just replace it with a new one. The rears can be cut out and a new one welded in.

I would be a little worried if its sat for a year without anyoil in it. The sump i would get helicoiled so it would be as good as new then. Dont buy the car without hearing it run either.

If its a 2wd it should be a 205 block unless its been changed. I wouldnt let that put you off though.

kosienutter

what is helicoiled
its a 205 on the block so thats ok

i could'nt quite see all the underneath but it did look solid

the off side front wing was replaced last year and the nr side is all ok

c0ss1e9i6

We don't all bullshit about the power! But you know what mine was and what it will be Spider! (soonish-LOL)

Helicoiled is a more in depth system to rethread the original hole for the sump plug rather than using a tap and die set that is a complete no no! You'll definately need that doing, but its not lottery winners expense! (might as well convert the sump to take an oil breather while your at it! We'll go and see Alan at AVA and see if we get a group discount!)

Looking at the pics (sorry peeps they were texted to me!! ) :

1 That bonnet has got to go! 4x4 one required!
2 Rust is a worry, but doesn't look terminal.
3 Tyres look proper shagged!
4 Can't see the air intake although you said it was cheesy, but who cares if its functional?
5 Power figures are nearly always exagerrated, but don't forget Keith's 4x4 was running @ 300bhp on standard injectors and survived. (Fook knows how!)
6 He looks to have spent some cash on it (which is always a bonus!) but why neglect the fuelling! (what sort of documents have you got of the history?)
7 Alloys, why do you care what they look like! Ł200 gets them sorted (nice colour on a white car by the way!!) Ł400 gets my Escos alloys!
8 Price means you have room to get most of the above sorted, then you have piece of mind that it is done right!
9 I would have this one over the other we looked at any day of the week, but if he is no rush to sell I'd still keep looking (I know how keen you are! )




All in all, if you want to put some work in to it, the boost can always be turned down for now and you can sort it the way you want, get it up to your bufty boy standard, then I can kick your arse on a track day!!

(Just remember there is no rush, but if you really like it make him a shocking offer and see how far he'll bend back at! )

tabetha

A cossie 2wd will not go lean at 287bhp, my own made 288 on yellows, it merely overworks then but for a very brief period, unless you plan to go at full throttle for ten minutes at a time!
It merely increases the DUTY cycle, spec wise they can deliver 294bhp at 100% duty cycle.
There is now way in hell it made 287 at 12PSI, from a 2 litre end of.
When things are tuned the AFR is watched or should be, some peoples rollers read high, some read low, some don't even coincide torque and bhp at 5252 rpm, which means they are complete bullshit readings, as the torque(ft lb's) is the exact same as bhp at this one point.
Do not under any circumstances buy a cossie without hearing it, for a decent repair the sump needs to come off, unless you get it to someone who can just TIG a boss onto the sump for you.
Rust will be your biggest enemy, rear arches read end of sills especially.
tabetha

TurboShed

How did he find out the sump plug had lost it's thread? When all the oil leaked out and the engine started sounding like a bag of spanners?

Don't buy it without hearing it run.

There's so many cheap Cossies around these days, I'd walk away from this one (non runner, rusty, etc.) and buy one of the many good ones around instead.

kosienutter

he found out the thread had gone when he tightened it up because he changed the oil on a very regular basis so it wore it out.
he said hell have it running in 2 weeks, long time i know but he runs his own buisness which i know, and time is sometimes not on his side.
i have a couple of mates who are going to find out how much the rust repair will be apart from that its tidy and with my scrubbing techniques it will shine to high heaven
it has had 2 previous rsoc members though

i know i can have better but im getting to the stage of impatients as it has been a long time for me to have a blue oval car
my last one was a 89 xr3i cab with 29k on the clock it was mint but some old todger went up the back of me whilst i was stationary @70mph last year the b*****d, and it ment a lot to me as my dads dad won it brand new and left it to me in his will.

and as my boss (c0ss1e9i6) has a stupidly fast escort cossie im jellus as fook

TurboShed

Must have got a nice whiplash claim then

kosienutter

trying to

DAN P

iTrader: (1)

dont buy the first one you look at m8 will end up costing you 10 g lol and yea i do no first hand

cozmeister

iTrader: (1)

Always go and look at another one mate - I only looked at one, but for the most part I think I've been lucky - and at the minute it's in daily use.

12psi isn't enough for Stage 1 mate - most (if not all) stage 1 maps use 1bar (14.5psi, or you're as well rounding it up to 15!) boost, and if it's a stage 1 chip, it should hold that when its on full boost.

Ask him what fuel it's been run on - cry if he's had it running on "4 star" or normal unleaded as they're both for a Cossie.

When he does get it running, hear it from cold and stand at the back to watch for smoke on that cold start.

NUTTIN RILLA

Save yourself the hassle buddy and buy mine

kosienutter

i have loooked at three now, the latst being a minter k plate

boncaster by the way are deffinatly the best for insurance
other insurance company's can't match or beat them by a billion miles, (or is pound more accurate) literally ha ha