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Old 18-05-2007, 01:52 PM
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Default Best way for 350-380 BHP ?

I have allready a

Mongoose System
RS 500 Intercooler

What part do i need for this power? I think

3 bar Map
Group A Head-gasket
other Injektors (don't know which one)
bigger Turbo (who is the best for this?T34?)
actuator

something more?
Old 18-05-2007, 02:46 PM
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You have listed most of the bits tbh.

I would go for Light blue or siemens injectors.
T34 with a .63 exhaust. You could use a smaller exhaust housing but it will mean the turbo's working harder.
Then a chip to suit, that comes down to who you want to use though.
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Old 18-05-2007, 10:02 PM
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light blue injector do i have allready
Old 18-05-2007, 10:08 PM
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If you use a smaller turbine housing it will pick up lower down, I use a .48 on my T34.
As said a group a is a must.
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i thing its better with group a gasket.

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Old 20-05-2007, 07:28 PM
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Do i need other Valves or a bigger fuel pump?

Whats better now, the small or the bigger turbine housing?
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Valves will be fine at that power level.

I would fit a 044 fuel pump for piece of mine, but plenty dont and have not had a problem.

As for turbo it depends really.

.48 Will give the least lag but also the least amount of power about 350bhp max

.55 Is the next step, a little more lag but capable of more power about 380bhp max

.63 Is the biggest on a T34 i know of and will be the most laggy but will give the most power around 400bhp max.

They are all rough power estimates, on what i have seen cars produce on the rollers. I would never run a a turbo at its max though so if you wanted them to last a little longer by running less boost, then knock 20bhp off those figures.
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I would recommend you changing your fuel pump to a bosch 044 group A item as the standard item will be working flat out @ 380bhp even more so if it has never been changed.
I have gone for the same power level and stu advised the only thing it was requiring was an uprated pump due to the above.
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So i think a bigger fuel pump is a good idea

Which Valves does i need and where can i get them, are they bigger as standart? Then i will see how much money i have over...
Old 21-05-2007, 01:35 PM
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The turbine housing, .48/.63 etc do not determine flow or power.
The COMPRESSOR housing wil need changing, or machining to T34 spec, same as large turbo escort.
There is plenty enough material on the standard T3 compresssor housing to machine out to accept T34 compressor trim wheel, this saves having to buy new pipe or pay expensive escy prices for the housing and will EASILY SEE the power you want.
The BEARING HOUSING of the T3 and T34 is the exact same thing, but make sure if you get the turbo done you get 360 bearing plus step gap seal at same time.
Make sure you get a turbo that is the smallest one that will produce the power, as this keeps lag down, unless you go RB type but mucho money.
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A other thing ist, i have a complete Turbo from a stock Escort Cosworth, it bigger than mine, can i use it for this Power?

How much boost will i need?



@tabetha: Wow, my english not realy good, and i don't understand allthing you wrote.
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What Tabetha is saying is that you can use your original T3 and have it made into T34 spec if you wish.

Yes you could use the Escort cossie one as its a T34, i would recomend getting it re built using a 360 bearing and step gap seal like Tabetha has said.
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[quote="Nash"]

.48 Will give the least lag but also the least amount of power about 350bhp max

.55 Is the next step, a little more lag but capable of more power about 380bhp max

.63 Is the biggest on a T34 i know of and will be the most laggy but will give the most power around 400bhp max.

Nash mate anychance of telling me when the boost kicks in on the 3 different exhuast sizes?

Thanks
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What is with a t35 or is it big, dont know?
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Originally Posted by Brocker
What is with a t35 or is it big, dont know?
not any bigger mate its usually just the term from turbotechnics for their t34 with a 55 housing
Old 27-05-2007, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
The COMPRESSOR housing wil need changing, or machining to T34 spec, same as large turbo escort.
There is plenty enough material on the standard T3 compresssor housing to machine out to accept T34 compressor trim wheel, this saves having to buy new pipe or pay expensive escy prices for the housing and will EASILY SEE the power you want.
Don't you know the specs of T34 compressor trim wheel? Cheers.
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how can i tell what exhaust housing i got
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Originally Posted by saph4be
how can i tell what exhaust housing i got
It will say on the housing either .48 / .55 /.63

If it is a sandard T34 escort cos it will be a .63
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Tomorow i will look which one i have.
If its the right it will save a lot of money
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So i have allready looked for the turbo, but i dont know which one exactly it is: At the Label at the front stands:


V92HF6K682AA
452059-1
VE 0409A

And in the exhaust side stand :


63


I think its a .63 housing, but im not shure that it is a T34?

Can i use it for 350-400bhp, or have i to use anotherone??
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that is T34 mate

I don't find it in russia
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Brocker
Don't you saw the A/R numbers on the compressor side?
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At the exhaust side stand: AR0.63

But on the compressor side are only this:

B.C.1
M27
92



Where can i find the A/R numbers?
Old 29-05-2007, 08:56 PM
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AR number you have aro.63

YES it is a T34 and yes u can use it for 400 bhp
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Many thanks to all...

More suggestions are welcome

If i have any more questions to this, i use this topic again

So at the moment i search somebody in germany who makes me the ECU and fuelsystem for this power, and who hasnt any problem that i dont need many parts and insert them self.


More suggestions are welcome...

If i need some more parts i can search them in august in sylverstone..
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My suggestion would be to get in contact with Stu@MSD he can sell you all the parts required for your conversion..

Many of us on here use MSD chips etc,I myself have his chips on both my cortina and sierra cos

IMO one of the top coswoth tuners in the UK

PS he's very helpfull and as your english is far better than our german there should be no probs
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Thanks

I first try to find someone in germany.
If i dont find anyone i think i try it, the Problem is i havent any idea how to adjust the fuelpress etc., and its hard to find a rolling road for 4x4 close at me.
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Originally Posted by Brocker
Thanks

I first try to find someone in germany.
If i dont find anyone i think i try it, the Problem is i havent any idea how to adjust the fuelpress etc., and its hard to find a rolling road for 4x4 close at me.
go see nikola at rplabs, the'll get ya sorted sent my l8 there for the map editor mods. livemapping rocks lol
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What???
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Originally Posted by Brocker
Thanks

I first try to find someone in germany.
If i dont find anyone i think i try it, the Problem is i havent any idea how to adjust the fuelpress etc., and its hard to find a rolling road for 4x4 close at me.
Fuel pressure sould not be touched from standard 99% of chips are mapped on std fuel pressure..

Only for live maps this can be altered accordingly...

As running more pressure effects spray pattern and lots of other factors..

IMO always use std pressure unless told by a tuner
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What is if i fit other Injectors or a bigger fuelpump?
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Originally Posted by Brocker
What is if i fit other Injectors or a bigger fuelpump?
Makes no difference 99% of injectors run @ 3bar/45 psi. a bigger pump only makes more flow so you don't lean out using bigger injectors
Old 30-05-2007, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by costina
Originally Posted by Brocker
What is if i fit other Injectors or a bigger fuelpump?
Makes no difference 99% of injectors run @ 3bar/45 psi. a bigger pump only makes more flow so you don't lean out using bigger injectors
the 3bar is with vacuumpipe disconnected i presume?
(+-3,5 with the pipe on? @ idle)
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@Costina: Can you give me the HP-adress from MSD or is Stu member @passionford?
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He is the main man on here..

And advert of his company is at the top of the screen

"Motorsport Developments"
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Originally Posted by Brocker
So at the moment i search somebody in germany who makes me the ECU and fuelsystem for this power, and who hasnt any problem that i dont need many parts and insert them self
RPlabs are in germany....nikola is the person you want to get hold of if you
want to modify your ecu to run more power, the mod you want is called "map editor" it also opens many other fuctions like launch control,als,closed loop fueling,distribitorless igniton, and many others
aswell as being compatable with windows software for real time mapping
on the rolling road. just as good as a aftermarket stand alone ecu at less then half the price

money well spent if you ask me link below.

www.rplab.co.yu
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@dox:
Thanks mate, but i was on the HP but doesnt find a dealer or adress from germany there?
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hy

if you´re looking for someone in germany then i would prefer two guy´s

Guido at Ellmer Autosport he sell´s part´s from MikeR. and Stu of here
www.ellmer-autosport.de

or

Herbert Post at Post Motorsport
www.post-motorsport.de

MAX


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