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Old 05-12-2006 | 11:14 PM
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[size=7] HI people i just got a full converted rs only had it a couple of days but it had a running problem which when it got warm it ran quite lumpy especially on throttle let off, it has now decided it dont want to start! it fires occasionally, although it is getting spark, fuel and the injectors are firing in sequence? any ideas dude? Also I noticed from some pics mine is missing the first bottle from the left on the bulkhead? what iis this? and would i need it? please please advise, AS I AM GUTTED!!!!! I AINT EVEN TOOK IT OUT!!!! Its had over 13 k spent on it!!! was told it was an air leak problem but now not starting!!!??? Any advice????????
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6k will get you a solid built 400Bhp FRS so wtf has 13k been spent on??

Seeing as your not too far from Lincoln, Zetec guru - Ian Howell will be your best bet.

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First thing....Get a bat out and whack the person that did this work for 13k! (unless you did it yourself LOL).
Next, get it sorted by a professional.
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To be fair the £13k isn't just on the engine it's basically a new shell that been built up...

As said mate, you could try Ian, but I see your from Skeggy, so your probably closer to Harvey Gibbs @ SCS in Peterborough, Ian does alot of his tuning thru him anyway...
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it aint orange by any chance is it
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Yes it is mate, it's the one that was on eBay...
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Get a code reader on it, OBDII works IIRC.

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Aaaah, was wondering if it was the orange one. Tidy fair play, a lot of work been done on that!

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HI GUYS I THINK I'VE GOT IT SUSSED with major help from cochyn!! THE PLUGS WERE ABOUT DEAD CLEANED THEM UP An ALSO NOTICED THE LAMBER SENSOR WIRE HAD FELL AND MELTED ON THE MANIFOLD, ONCE STRIPPED BACK AND PARTED VOILA IT FIRED UP! IT WAS BETTER BUT STILL MISSING SLIGHTLY GONNA FIT THE DUMP VALVE AND JUST ORDERED SOME DENZO PLUGS! COCHYN IS A GOD WHAT A SOUND BLOKE!!! SO GTECH YOU MAY SEE ME ROLLIN UP AT LINCOLN ON THURSDAY DUDE PM ME YOUR NO AN I'LL GIVE YOU A BUZZ IF I'M ON MY WAY? JUST DEBATING ABOUT A T4 UPGRADE ALTHOUGH IT IS OIL COOLED???!!! LET ME KNOW GURUS? ITS DE CATED AND A VIPER RAM AIR IND KIT GOING ON, MAY ALSO HAVE A REMAP BY MY MATE AT CORTEN MILLERS, IN FRISKNEY? HAD A WORD WITH MY MECHANICAL MATES AND THEY RECKON ALL WILL BE COMPLETED ON MONDAY! JUCT GOT TO SORT THE AIR PROBS OUT!
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Hehe, may be ginger, but I'm useful for some things!

Cheers for the remarks, hope its all running sound fella. But I'd advise u to deffo fit the dump valve, considering what we talked about...

Good one!
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LOL no probs mate I'll prob ring you tommoz lol!
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Good news mate, i'd consider one of the GT series turbo's rather than a T4, also if your thinking of upgrading the turbo you may wanna think about swapping from a charge cooler to a Intercooler, as a bigger turbo will increase the the temps right to the limit of the standard set up...

If your gonna do that, then it may be worth hanging fire on the viper kit (do they do one for the FRS?) as you need to relocate the battery to where the airbox currently sits, and relocate the airfilter!!

As it's Xmas there isn't a meet this month but it's back on from january, i'll PM you my number!!
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Yes they do make one, as I've just fitted one to mine.

The airfilter on the FRS does not sit where it does on a 1.4/1.6/1.8/2.0 Focus, it actually sits in front of the battery (underneath). Attached to the turbo. So a Viper kit would be fine.

And if you upgrade to a GT28 or a 30, you will deffo require an Air to Air cooling system as GtechR mentioned. But you will need to replace the charge box with the battery, not the battery with the filter. You get a panel with the intercooler kit to mount the battery...
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Originally Posted by COCHYN
Yes they do make one, as I've just fitted one to mine.

The airfilter on the FRS does not sit where it does on a 1.4/1.6/1.8/2.0 Focus, it actually sits in front of the battery (underneath). Attached to the turbo. So a Viper kit would be fine.

And if you upgrade to a GT28 or a 30, you will deffo require an Air to Air cooling system as GtechR mentioned. But you will need to replace the charge box with the battery, not the battery with the filter. You get a panel with the intercooler kit to mount the battery...
Fair play mate i've not actually worked on the engine, but thats sorta what I meant
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SOUNDS LIKE A HELL OF A LOT OF PI55IN ABOUT AND MAJOR HEADACHES WHAT DO YOU GUYS RECKON WOULD A T3 MAKE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE FOR THE ARSING ABOUT IT TAKES?
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A T3 no... a GT30 yep. lol!!

Depends what ya wanna do really mate and how much you have to spend, if you can afford it then yeah i'd say o for it, as it will really improve the car. but don't get it mapped till you've done the mechanical side of things as it would need mapping again...
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Hi dude whats a gt30 I have chance of the brand new garret t4 on ebay though LOL , also my mate has just said I can have his alloy intercooler off his cossy for 30£ Wat do you reckon??? They reckon I can just connect the pipes and voila!! OH I FORGOT GUYS I'M SELLING DVDS ON EBAY CHEAP THEY'RE "IMPORTS" If you get wat I mean to get round ebay but If any of you want any for xmas presents i'LL DO EM CHEAPER 4 YOU, JUST MAKE SURE YOU LET ME KNOW WHO YOU ARE, I'M ALSO DOIN THE MUSIC BUT THEY ARE AS PERFECT In every way AS THE ORIGINALS, MY ECAY NAME IS megaswappa so let me know peeps!
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The Focus RS uses a Newer version (GT Series) Turbo, Smaller in size in comparison to the equivelant old (T) Turbo, the have roller bearings and in general are far more efficiant(sp?)... I'm not sure a T4 would actually fit, and if it did to be honest i'd gess it would be far too 'laggy'.

As for the Cossie I/C I doubt it would fit mate, the Pro Alloy one for instance has been specially designed and comes with all the mountings etc...

have a look here > www.turbodynamics.co.uk for info on the turbo

and here > www.proalloy.co.uk for the intercooler
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Default NEARLY THERE BUT YET ANOTHER BLOODY PROBLEM!!!

Hi guys got iit runnin and charge cooler set up thanks to cochyn, still a bit umpy which turned out to be a knackered bodged air flow meter, got a new one comin tommoz SO SSWWEEEETT!!! But the vacum in let for the dump valve on the intake is blowing out instead of suckin in any ideas as now my dump valve aint workin??? Hook me up Guys Whats the clown done now lol! BLOODY FORDS!!! Only jokin all!!!
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if ya knackered ya DV i have NEW Bailey Motorsport DV36 Trumpet FOR SALE!
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HOW MUCH YOU LOOKIN AT FOR IT DUDE???
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WELL GUYS THE BEAST IS DONE AND DOES SHE GET SOME ATTENTION FUK YEAH IT WAS ALL WORTH IT! I'LL BE AT THE SHOWS IN NO TIME AND WATCH OUT FOR PERFORMANCE FORD ETC THAT COVERS MINE LOL! If any one comes accross a tick over meter for the rs (NOT THE AIRFLOW METER) THEN GIVE ME A SHOUT! Forgot to mention HOOORAY SHIT GUYS SHE GOES!
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I RELY ON G TECH 4 PIX AS MY CAMERA IS FOOKED LOL! I'LL C WAT I CAN DO GUYS!
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Wehey, can't wait to see it! Told ya it was worth the hassle didn't I!
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HERE WE GO GUYS! \/ \/ \/ \/




















WHAT DO YOU THINK? ITS FOR SALE SO MAKE ME SOME OFFERS PPL!
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That looks the nuts mate
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I see the power steering tank worked well, good lad
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Hey Cochyn yeh it does the trick for now dude, gonna change for a few bailey tanks soon if it don't sell dude, cheers for the comments bodge
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why you selling up? what price you after? looks like your charge cooler bottle has fallen off.

p.s. we can all read the smaller black letters better than the big orange ones.
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TBH pal, and this isn't to knock your car or creat arguments etc. But I really do think that £13-14k is way too much for your car. At the end of the day, a person could buy that mint Focus Cosworth that was on sale for the last 2 months for around £13k. But that car had everything done, pure perfection. AP's, flocked dash, RWD, 350bhp, custom everything, fuel cell etc.

To interest real buyers, you'd be better off starting at a realistic figure such as £7,500. That's with everything working perfectly.

If I was to sell mine, which is near perfection, paint work, underneath and all, with a lot of custom parts and everything done to the highest quality, I'd probably only recieve around £10k...or so the offers have been.
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Got too say I do agree with Cochyn mate, the main problem you will encounter is the fact it's only a 1.6 shell on the logbook, and other than the colour is pretty much a Standard spec FRS.
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TBH why would i want an old 1.6 focus with FRS running gear added for the same price as an original?

Also the fact the car sold for 7k on ebay not 5 min ago, what makes you think its now worth double what you paid for it.
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TBH why would i want an old 1.6 focus with FRS running gear added for the same price as an original?

Also the fact the car sold for 7k on ebay not 5 min ago, what makes you think its now worth double what you paid for it.
Well that's obviously been established and sussed out. But the reason why some1 would want a FRS Replica with everything on it except the stamp from Ford stating that it is a genuine RS, is that it would carry 1.6 (or 1.4 as mine was originally) tax with 2.0 turbo insurance. The tax being legal, therefore £56 for 6 months tax as they work it on the emissions of the original shell, they cannot tax it as an RS. And the insurance is better, as its not a Focus RS, but classed as a modified turbo conversion. Which in my case, is £560 odd quid a year instead of the £2k I was quoted for an actual RS...
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Yes thats a fair point.

What i was saying though is that if you can buy a real RS for 13k then a replica is not going to be wrth anywhere near that money. It's never going to have the resale value of a real RS, or ever be recognised as one.

I dont have a problem with engine transplants, what i do have a problem with is people then thinking they are worth as much as an original!
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Originally Posted by Nash
Yes thats a fair point.

What i was saying though is that if you can buy a real RS for 13k then a replica is not going to be wrth anywhere near that money. It's never going to have the resale value of a real RS, or ever be recognised as one.

I dont have a problem with engine transplants, what i do have a problem with is people then thinking they are worth as much as an original!
I don't think he did, all he's done is make an attempt at selling for that much, doesn't say anything about him "saying" its worth that much.

And for £13k, I fook off the Focus RS and buy that proper quality Focus Cosworth that was on the cover of PF last month. Like the FRS should have been and more
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Yes thats a fair point.

What i was saying though is that if you can buy a real RS for 13k then a replica is not going to be wrth anywhere near that money. It's never going to have the resale value of a real RS, or ever be recognised as one.

I dont have a problem with engine transplants, what i do have a problem with is people then thinking they are worth as much as an original!
I don't think he did, all he's done is make an attempt at selling for that much, doesn't say anything about him "saying" its worth that much.

And for £13k, I fook off the Focus RS and buy that proper quality Focus Cosworth that was on the cover of PF last month. Like the FRS should have been and more
Thats a bit of a strange comment for you COCHYN seeing as you used FRS parts to build your car and not Cosworth ones. I will say the focus Cosworth was a stunning car and i would love to own it but then some people would rather have a mint 3dr for that price of even an Escort as your now in that price range.

I personnally i think the FRS is a stunning car and, does everything it needs to do and handles superd. Just because it doesnt have a 4x4 doesnt make it any less of a car. Its then like saying all FWD RS's don't deserve the badge which is total tosh.
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Just for the record, there ain`t no such thing as a Focus Cosworth either, we all wish!
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Just for the record, there ain`t no such thing as a Focus Cosworth either, we all wish!
Yes i know Shins was just refering to the Car on the Cover of Performance Ford that COCHYN had used as on example.
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Yes Shins, we are all thick! C'mon man, its obvious what I was refering too!

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No, the new ST doesn't deserve the RS badge....the Focus RS deserves all due respect. But it would have been better if Ford would have released it in the spec they promised. Bit of a let down is all.

I went for the Focus RS conversion as no1 had done it when I did, and in the car with the styling and colour mine has. There were quite a few Cossie engine'd Focus's about, so wanted something a bit more reliable and unique than others.

Saying that, I'd still go for a Cossie RWD conversion...let's see how my plans go for this year


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