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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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You'd have to ask Mr C that


I got rid of mine because of piss poor charge temps
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Many thanx, will be placing my order for a GRS cooler on monday hopefully
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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ordered a GRS yesterday. top top bloke
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Originally Posted by whiteRSTubby
The pace frount mount is the only one with a reverse charge carrier, so its not sitting directly over a red hot turbo
each to their own I suppose
actually the NMS twin or triple 2wd cossie core cooler uses a reverse charge carrier

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I'll be opting for a custom 2 2wd coolers i think, Like the design and it works well
agree'd thats why i made the triple core will let you lot know how it performs next summer
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I know sorry, I realised the other day when I saw the grudge match in PF!
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Originally Posted by Red16
what about a NMS twin cossie core, work well on Ollie's S1 and Tim's S2
Or could just go for single cossie cooler fitted infront of the rad down the bottom. Fits ok on a S2 behind the bumper. Just need somepipework making up to the charge-carrier.
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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what about a NMS twin cossie core, work well on Ollie's S1 and Tim's S2
ive got one of these for sale, including hoses, rocker cover, reverse charge cooler etc... pm me
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rs shawn
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what about a NMS twin cossie core, work well on Ollie's S1 and Tim's S2
Or could just go for single cossie cooler fitted infront of the rad down the bottom. Fits ok on a S2 behind the bumper. Just need somepipework making up to the charge-carrier.
using this one when ive finished making it



turbo will be sat over the gearbox and feeding the inlet in the bottom corner at the drivers side, outlet is perfect for feeding the throttle body on the end of my rover m16 inlet should be big enough for anythin i want to run in the future too
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Red16
Originally Posted by rs shawn
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what about a NMS twin cossie core, work well on Ollie's S1 and Tim's S2
Or could just go for single cossie cooler fitted infront of the rad down the bottom. Fits ok on a S2 behind the bumper. Just need somepipework making up to the charge-carrier.
using this one when ive finished making it



turbo will be sat over the gearbox and feeding the inlet in the bottom corner at the drivers side, outlet is perfect for feeding the throttle body on the end of my rover m16 inlet should be big enough for anythin i want to run in the future too


NIIIIIIIIIIIIICE
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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Tony Turbo hopefully it will be there are more pics etc of it in the making on my resto thread in sig
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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Out of the bolt on type, id have to go for the pace, as its the only single pass one that keep temps down. You lose 20hp on the GRS for any given charge temp. The NMS type are head and shoulders above anything else though, single twin or triple. I run more boost than most, but Karl found that the response of the engine was better on the twin core than triple core, with marginal diff in act's.

It is not easy to fit proerly, and u need to completely rethink ur water cooling setup.

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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick
Out of the bolt on type, id have to go for the pace, as its the only single pass one that keep temps down. You lose 20hp on the GRS for any given charge temp. The NMS type are head and shoulders above anything else though, single twin or triple. I run more boost than most, but Karl found that the response of the engine was better on the twin core than triple core, with marginal diff in act's.

It is not easy to fit proerly, and u need to completely rethink ur water cooling setup.

Rick.
what boost you running? what turbo? what act's?

sorry for all the questions, just interested
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GRS

I have been using Grahams items since he started many years ago, not once have i had any type of problem.

No Overheating issues

Easy to fit items

Custom made for any requirements

No boost drop or leaking issues.

I have also sent bent, damaged items that have been in crashes etc.. back to GRS to be fixed back to the high standrad they once were.

All round the GRS items are better than the other choices value for money and for results IMO

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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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Rick wrote; 'You lose 20hp on the GRS for any given charge temp'. What is meant by this? Loose 20bhp?? Got me worried now. Thinking of ordering my GRS tomorrow.

Mark
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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Ive seen the results of extensive research on various design in type and make of intercoolers.

If your primary concern is lowering Air Charge Temps then up and to a point any of the above mentioned manufacturers will achieve your goal.

RST_mark. go with the GRS its more than adequate
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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anymore views from people with experience?
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Thanx, I know it will be more than adequate, i'm only running 14psi at the moment anyway, just want to get the most out of what i've got

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Originally Posted by Jano_OddKidd
No boost drop
You sure? I have seen pressure drop on every GRS (3 on my car, 2 on Mr C's and 1 on AndyRST's) because it is a twin pass intercooler. No way round it I thought.....

How have you managed it?
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Is the pressure drop going to be a problem on my car seeing i'm only running 14psi? Is this anything to be worried about?

I don't want to spend out on a new intercooler only to find that i'm loosing power from it, would be better to keep the small pace i've got. Don't want it to feel less responsive...

Think mine peaks at 14psi then drops back to 12-13psi....

Any oppions on what i should do would be good..... Cheers
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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Pressure drop = flow restiction.

To be honest, moor people should be using chargecoolers.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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So what would be the best option for me, my car spec is on page one of this post. Don't really fancy a chargecooler.

Would it be worth me buying a GRS front mount intercooler or better for me to stick with what i've got?

Thanx for all your help
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick
Pressure drop = flow restiction.

To be honest, moor people should be using chargecoolers.

there wank good for ten sec boost and water is red hot
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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get a GRS
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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GRS is the way forward
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there wank good for ten sec boost and water is red hot
Agree they not brillant as std, but they can made to work V V well.
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Just thought id add a link to this post.



https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=157252


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I did have a GRS but unfortunatley it wasn't the one for me. I had a few issues and ended going for a pro alloy one which transformed the car again. Both top products though. Gonna get another one for the Mrs Festa. Just didn't do the job on my engine unfortunatley.

Like i said though both top products in my eyes.
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SidZvh, what was the problem with the GRS cooler on your engine?

The only concern i've got is that i'm gonna loose boost pressure through the intercooler because i'm only running 14psi, and hence loose power, which is not good .

Cheers, Mark
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Get some mods so you can up the boost
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Originally Posted by Cliff S1
Get some mods so you can up the boost
What he said
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Ordered my GRS last night, really helpfull guy.

Just got to wait for it now

Many thanx for all your help.

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One more question for people with the GRS cooler is where have they found it best for the fan to be mounted and are they using the slimline kenlowe fan?

Planning on fitting my fan between the intercooler and radiator.

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between the rad and cooler,twin 10 inch kenlowes
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Originally Posted by kiddie
The pace frount mount is the only one with a reverse charge carrier, so its not sitting directly over a red hot turbo
each to their own I suppose
I purchased a pace front mounted cooler single pass last month, Will be fitting it over the winter when rebuilding my motor, Hopfully get good results
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addiction roughly how thick are your fans? are they normall kenlowes or the extra slim ones?

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54mm slim line fans
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Thanx

Any one else who is using the GRS cooler, what fan are they using and where mounted?

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2 10 inch kenlowes inbetween the rad and cooler as last year the temps were sky high with just 1 fan inbetween the grs
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Originally Posted by B9DOV
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The pace frount mount is the only one with a reverse charge carrier, so its not sitting directly over a red hot turbo
each to their own I suppose
I purchased a pace front mounted cooler single pass last month, Will be fitting it over the winter when rebuilding my motor, Hopfully get good results
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how much are these twin kenlowe fans? where to buy them from?
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