...would realy appreciate everybody's views/experiences on what the best wet and/or dry use tyres would be (price and wear rate no object - I hardly use my car) for use on big power RSTs.

I'm presuming Yokos or Bridgestones would be ideal, but not sure which to go for, or someone might even know of something better I hadn't considered.

(mine are 205/45/16 by the way)

Thanks.

 

I have Yoko's all round.....

 

You get what you pay for. Cheep tyres usually suck in the wet. Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD-3 is good. Yokohama AVS Sport. Bridgestone RE040, RE050A and S03 POLE POS. Pirelli P Zero Nero.

On the budget side, Kumho 712E isn't so bad.

 

Bridgestone Potenza RE720 always get good reviews, both wet and dry, are popular on the 'ring, reasonably priced, and my experience with them has been good too.

Get them while you can though the rumour is that they will be discontinued.

On the RST with 16's you'd probably be better with the 45's.

 

I got Toyo Proxes on mine. Really grippy as there quite soft.

 

Always been a Yoko fanboy myself

 

Toyo T1-R is soon out. Better than T1-S

 

Toyo's m8.

 

toyo's are a budget tyre but not too bad.

I really like P-zero's, best tyres ive had

 

I have yokos on the front and they spin up most the time in the dry ..thinking goodyear f1s soon

 

got yokos all round but dont find them very grippy to be honest, especially in the wet awful!!
prob. go for F1s next time round

 

Cheers for all your input boys, it's very much appreciated.

What sort of power levels are you all running?

I ask this as mine is approx 260 at the flywheel, so my priority is stickyness rather than economy. (I don't give a damn how long they last as I only do a couple of thousand miles a year in the old girl )

Wet road useability would be nice, but is a secondary consideration as I try to keep my useage to the dry months (4th gear wheelspin on the motorway at 105 is very boring compared to actual acceleration)

Has anyone tried cut slicks on the road?
Maybe Hooziers or Avons?

Thanks again chaps - it's looking like Bridgestones are winning the popularity contests

 

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testSearch.jsp

Select a tire based on these tests.

 

i Used to go through tyres like anybody's busness doing 35K miles a year

Avoid toyo, yoko A539 and Avon all are budget and never last long and dismall in the wet

best tyres i have come across were the Yokohamo AVS sports closely followed by Eagle F1's

other decent tyres like pirelli are good but seeing as they are wet orientatedtyres they wear very quick

 

If money were no object, I would go for Michelin Pilot Sports. I currently run Toyo Proxes T1-S. That was only because at the time I couldn't get Yokohama AVS Sports.

So, in summary, I would recommend AVS Sports.

As for Road Legal Slicks, dont forget that these Tyres wont last very long on the road as they have less tread than a road tyre to start with. VERY grippy though.

 

Kumho seems to do well at the tirerack tests. Better price than the high-end tires.

 

Im limited to what makes I can get on 205/40/16...

I use Yoko's, and find them very grippy, dont last very long thou, and cost Ł75 each at discounted price!

I kill a set of front tyres every year, and im only doing 5k miles... last year I did 3k and the front passenger side is f**ked! Supose I should stop lauching it...

 

Michelin Pilot Sport's much prefer them to any other brand I've tried.

Dunlop DO1's if it were a cut slick!

 

Toyo proxes and Goodyear F1's both mint tyres

Best tyre ive ever used though was a Yokohama A032R,semi cuts and very grippy

 

I have toyo's. Quite happy wiv them so far. Had yoko A539, but think they were terible in the wet!

 

I've just put 4 Toyo Proxes on mine and their top loads of grip in the wet or dry and the best bit Ł170 fitted for 4

 

I work for Pirelli you gotta go for the P zero nero good strong side wall and good tred for all weather really good in the dry though and very little roll when you hit the corners hard just a very good all round tyre. p.s i can get them cheap aswell

 

Sorry mate you're right. I got it wrong, they are actually 45s, I have edited my post accordingly

 

Thanks for all the input chaps.

There seems to be quite an eclectic taste in tyres even at the higher price band with no hard and fast rule of what to buy.

To give you all an idea of my predicament, I recently ran my car at Santa Pod for the first time ever. It was a cool and windy day; but dry.

However, my car has 205/45/16 Yokohama A520s set to approx 28 psi and I scored a couple of realy sh*te runs mainly due to the fact that even when I tried to feather the throttle, as soon as she produced boost; she just wheelspun all the way through 1st and 2nd gear.

I'm after a tyre that doesn't do that, so I can get into fourth and get some reasonable 1/4 mile times.

So, if anyone's managed to get their big power RST up the Pod without spinning all the way through 2nd, i'd love to know what tyres they did it on.

Thanks.

Oh, btw, have any of you folks ever experimented with tyre softener?

 

im on toyo proxies t1s brilliant tyre

 

its not just tyres that will affect you wheel spinning
if your boost comes in with a bang even the best tyres will spin up
its a combination of many things

 

A boost controller would be a good start

 

Steer clear of Avons, they are shite


To be honest, spinning up in 2nd gear will always happen if you have loads of power, and just floor the throttle. What do you class as "big power"?

I could never get my car to launch properly. It either bogged down or spun up. With the clutch/ turbo and tyre combo it was a nightmare to pull away quick. If I just floored it, then 1st and 2nd would be wasted, 3rd would be ok, but would still scrabble for grip. That was at 2bar of boost on a T34, in the dry of course lol.

Suspension also plays a MASSIVE role too, a nose down kind of angle will help and have a play with softness to. Adjustable suspension components will help no end.

 

Is fairly progressive, starts coming on about 2900 and pulls smoothly all the way around to past 7000. It's probably the torque that does it though. The car will spin up wildy at 90 mph if you change down to third on a damp motorway and floor the throttle.

 

I don't have Cosworth management, so I'm not aware of how to do this to mine.

 

Hi Tony, thanks for the response.
What sort of output are you dealing with?
Mine was originaly 286bhp and 301lb ft. Spun horribly in 3rd in the dry due to RSi ratios, so power was backed off to approx 260 to get the car more tractable. Not sure what the torque ended up at.

I'm running normal RST ratios now so could probably get away with running full power again as she pulls beautifully in 3rd, it's just the low gear wheelspin that gets me down.

I'm hoping to install Quaife internals after the summer, so gearbox reliability won't be such an issue.

I haven't got coilovers but have Koni springs and shocks and Turbo Technics front crossmember with drop links rather than conventional ARB setup, so she's very stable and handles beautifully, just a nightmare off the line and on poor/damp road surfaces.

BTW, is it your car that can pull 161? Mine only does 156 and I was wondering what you'd done with your gearing to be able to achieve such high speeds.

Thanks.

 

Hi Andy, thanks for the reply

I've heard a lot of good things about the Neros.

Is your car an RST? If so, are you running the Neros on it and what sort of power and torque are you making?

 

Nice one

Are you still using them now, and what sort of power are you dealing with? Didn't you buy the engine out of SOY?
Cheers

 

Cheers Rallyesport

 

Cheers Fad. 35k in your little beastie - no wonder you f*cked so many tyres

 

I didn't buy any engine from SOY.

I run the car on the track, wet and dry, and it's the stability and response of the Bridgestones that really impressed me. The car itself had then only 121PS (last season).

The good thing about the Potenzas is that they give amazing feedback. When driving on the edge, they just start to sing nice and early - you get to know when they start to complain long before they lose all control. It gives you a higher safety margin. They are super responsive, and really grippy in both wet and dry conditions. They never aquaplane, and dont follow tracklines in the road.

I have sorted camber front and rear with polybushes and rose joints, which I'm sure plays a big part in the responsiveness.

They wear well - I did about 80 laps of the ring on one front set and daily driving as well. Price wise they are OK.

The Ring-Mini drives on them too. He thrashes the pants off your average 911 and M3 driver regularly!

http://www.ringmini.de/

They may not be what your looking for but as a tyre for daily driving as well as track they are great.

 

Good afternoon,

We don't have an actual figure for the car as it never get RR'ed, was just live mapped, but with the fueling figures, boost and turbo size it is pretty safe to say that it was well into the 3's. My car wasn't the one that did 161mph, that is Christian's. Mine is identical spec though.

I have Koni's and the TT kit too, and adjustable TCA's and Adjustable rear tie bars.

I don't really know what else you can, apart from maybe fitting a bigger turbo so the boost doesn't come in with such a bang causing the wheels to spin.

 

try uniroyal rainsports and if you keep them at 30psi at the rear and 29 on the front the weight is distributed to the front hence giving you a little more control! in my day goodyear NCT2s were the nuts!!, dont touch pirelli,or avon or yoko there crap!!

 

Nice one fella, cheers for the advice They sound like they'd be ideal for my XR4X4 aswell.

Sorry about mixup over SOY engine (red stupid power 2.1 - I think, S2 RST), I could of sworn that i'd read you were buying it. Any idea who did buy that lump, or did the fella hang onto it when he broke the car?

 

get yoko,s on it there mint in the wet and really mint in the dry