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Old 08-03-2005, 11:32 PM
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Default 4" mongoose or 4" scorpion ?

ive got a 4" mongoose on my series one all my mates with rs turbos are telling me i should get a scorpion because they roar more so which is better? has there been any tests in fast ford on series 1 exhausts for performance ? i dunno which one is better dont want to swap it over and find a drop in performance
Old 08-03-2005, 11:36 PM
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Old 08-03-2005, 11:47 PM
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cant really believe its worth swapping, ive had most on mine, only the size makes a difference i thought, got a mongoose 4" now, sounds fine, with the baffles ripped out!
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Scorpions are too restrictive
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Originally Posted by wildheart
Scorpions are too restrictive
thats what i thought thats why they make that noise like someone putting loads of pressure through a small hole
Old 09-03-2005, 11:23 AM
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Mongoose rock , I have a scorpian on my Series one with a 4" tailpipe if you wanna swap
Old 09-03-2005, 11:24 AM
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my rs turbo used to have an 'old' scorpian system on it which was restrictive due to the sharp 90 degree bend at the back of the system. This snapped at the backbox a few weeks ago so I brought another scorpian. When it turned up I was quite surprised to see that all the welds had gone (I think there is 1 on the entire system) and the 90 degree bend has been better shaped like the mongoose so they are no longer restrictive. Its also 2.5 inch straight through the backbox as well !.........so scorpian arnt as bad as every one says

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Old 09-03-2005, 11:35 AM
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mongoose al the way, its the bore that counts and the bore thats in the back box,
Old 09-03-2005, 12:26 PM
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magnex any1
Old 09-03-2005, 01:43 PM
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mongoose going on my s2 eventually will be using an mongoose ecosy box
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3" bore mongoose all the way
Old 09-03-2005, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Mongoose rock , I have a scorpian on my Series one with a 4" tailpipe if you wanna swap
one of my mates has a scorpion just deciding what to do but cheers any way


So everyone say stick with the goose
Old 09-03-2005, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob84
3" bore mongoose all the way
aint that noisey as hell.... got a 2.5" mongoose on mine... and it sounds mad... LOVE the sound..
Old 09-03-2005, 06:42 PM
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Ive always had scorpion. Havent tried goose coz ive been happy wiv what ive got.
Know what you mean about the bend though.
Old 09-03-2005, 06:45 PM
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Weld quality on my Goose is amazing
Old 09-03-2005, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RS-adam
Originally Posted by Rob84
3" bore mongoose all the way
aint that noisey as hell.... got a 2.5" mongoose on mine... and it sounds mad... LOVE the sound..
3" is quieter.....I changed from 2 1/2 to 3" Goose and definatly a lot quieter
Old 09-03-2005, 09:25 PM
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Its not the bend on the scorpion thats the prob afaik its inside the backbox where it goes from 2.5inch down to about 1.5 or 2inch, had a pic where someone held a measuring tape up to one but cant find it. stick with the GOOSE or even Magnex!!! end of the day why change cos it sounds better when its performance that matters
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Originally Posted by B8
Originally Posted by RS-adam
Originally Posted by Rob84
3" bore mongoose all the way
aint that noisey as hell.... got a 2.5" mongoose on mine... and it sounds mad... LOVE the sound..
3" is quieter.....I changed from 2 1/2 to 3" Goose and definatly a lot quieter
i'll agree there, its only a tad louder then my magnex was, but its alot more rumblier on idle and sounds simply awsome at full chat
Old 10-03-2005, 03:24 PM
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I`ve got a 3" bore goose, but from the factory you only get the one type of back box wich is 4" inwardly rolled, and silenced, so i got the tail pipe choped of and got a 4" outwardly rolled pipe put on, and got the best of both worlds
Old 10-03-2005, 06:37 PM
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4" on a RST is overkill. 10 times overkill.
Old 10-03-2005, 08:22 PM
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get the fcuk! mongoose my friend , had car on idle the other day , bloke from 5 or 6 blocks away said he could hear it!
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Originally Posted by Rallyesport
4" on a RST is overkill. 10 times overkill.
In what respect is it overkill?
Old 10-03-2005, 11:23 PM
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im curious to what that ment?
Old 11-03-2005, 12:36 AM
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I agree with Rallysport, even if mongoose did make a 4" Goose it would be overkill for a RS Turbo & the majority of Cossies

What mongoose do make are.......

2.5 inch systems with various diameter tailpipes including a 4"

3 inch system with 4inch inwardly rolled only.
Old 11-03-2005, 09:46 AM
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These engines produces sometimes up to 250 hp and is a 1.6l, normaly. 2.5 is more than enough. When we're talking 3l, six sylinders, giant turbo and 1000 bhp, then 4" is needed. 4" on a RST is just unpractical.

WRC cars uses 2.5" exhaust. If it's good enough for Petter Solberg, is more than good enough for you.
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These engines produces sometimes up to 250 hp and is a 1.6l, normaly. 2.5 is more than enough. When we're talking 3l, six sylinders, giant turbo and 1000 bhp, then 4" is needed. 4" on a RST is just unpractical.
no one mentioned they needed a 4" bore did they
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I agree with you 220tc, no one metioned 4" bore, it was a 4" tail pipe with 3" bore
Old 11-03-2005, 06:19 PM
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Even 3" bore is overkill. The resistance of the original exhaust is in the muffler.
Old 11-03-2005, 07:15 PM
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I know I have a 'inside' picture of my scorpion backbox somewhere.. Trying to find it
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i ment 3" bore with 4" tail just to clarify
Old 11-03-2005, 09:59 PM
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mongoose every time
Old 12-03-2005, 12:03 PM
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oh dear, about a year ago i got a scorpion from the local rs breakers had a choice between a mongoose or the scorpion !!!!!!!!!!!! both 100quid each went for the scorpion as the price of the mongoose was cheaper in the mags new so thought i was getting a better deal .
only to find out reading this that i made a bit of a twatful decision

wish i went for the goose too now
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Scorpion do have crap fitment. Only 2 out of the original 4 mounts? The magnex seems to use 3 and a flexy.
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