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Old 13-02-2012, 09:14 PM
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Old 13-02-2012, 09:18 PM
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Trick question?

Only one I know of iirc is the one lady Di had
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Originally Posted by Cragrat
Trick question?

Only one I know of iirc is the one lady Di had

no trick question was talking to a m8 today about s1's and was asking was any made in black.. i know about lady di but was it the case that was the only one ever made or was there a small amount made for a number of people
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Was there a few made for ford themselfs? Probley completely wrong but i think i read it somewhere..
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I know of an additional two confirmed as original black issued cars, totaling three. I know the owners of all three

All Seem to have HRH/related history. The two are rumored to have been diversionary tactics to steer the paps away from their real target.....

Happy to be corrected however.
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3 were made by Ford,one for Di and it's believed that one of the others was used as a decoy car for her,these were C reg.There's also a B plate that came form the factory in black,i think it's the one that Mr Fuller owned,that could have been the decoy car though,can't remember it all now but it's all on the S1 site.

ETA Huw got in there as i was typing

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Originally Posted by Mungus
I know of an additional two confirmed as original black issued cars, totaling three. I know the owners of all three

All Seem to have HRH/related history. The two are rumored to have been diversionary tactics to steer the paps away from their real target.....

Happy to be corrected however.
pity Dodi didn't try that tactic..
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pics or it didnt happen
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Originally Posted by bubs_rsturbo
pics or it didnt happen
Pics of what?
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em black series 1 turbos
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There's plenty pics all over the internet,try here for a start

http://www.seriesoneturbo.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2530
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Originally Posted by Mungus
I know of an additional two confirmed as original black issued cars, totaling three. I know the owners of all three

All Seem to have HRH/related history. The two are rumored to have been diversionary tactics to steer the paps away from their real target.....

Happy to be corrected however.

i can smell something
Old 13-02-2012, 11:54 PM
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well from looking on the internet there seems to be only 1 black s1 every made and it was the one that lady di owned and is now owned by mark bailey
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Yeh I thought there was only 1made
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I was told of two. One for di and one a decoy. Think she also had a 205 gti. You wouldn't do a decoy with a different plate... The pap ain't stupid, they can read. Also I would say they wouldn't tell you of a decoy at the time!
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https://passionford.com/forum/showth...=139290&page=2

This may clear things up.
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Originally Posted by hynes67
well from looking on the internet there seems to be only 1 black s1 every made and it was the one that lady di owned and is now owned by mark bailey
Wrong.There's 3
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3 black, 7? Red from memory!
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Right I been researching and basically only 1 was make in black from ford and has the vin plate saying black in Germany. 6 others were then sprayed by ford dealerships for other customers along with one in orange
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There was also a grey series one.
Old 16-02-2012, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Fiesta_Jed
There was also a grey series one.
Yea missed that. Saw that aswell
Old 16-02-2012, 08:50 PM
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I heard there was only 2 gen black s1's di's 1 and a black decoy and 5 reds which were all 4 the datapost team, there were a good few that were painted by ford dealers but all were gen white 2 start with,and that was from ford heritage! Would they b wrong?
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anyone got any pics of these different coloured cars ?
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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIA...HAT/32941.html

That's the data post one
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There is at least 2 geniune factory black cars. 1 is Diana's car as we all know and the other has royal connections also. That car also has 'Schwarz' on the colour plate and has the documentation to back up the history.
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Originally Posted by blackbeautyzetec
6 others were then sprayed by ford dealerships for other customers along with one in orange
Where's that info from mate?
Old 20-02-2012, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rs shawn
Where's that info from mate?
Just from what I have gathered on the Internet. Also said by a person who was a black s1 registered black from ford but still has the mark for white so resprayed
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The 2nd black car was not a decoy. It was actually owned by Prince Michael of Kent (Princess Annes hubby)
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How did the decoy work? Say she was bobbing to the shops did they have a actor hiding round the corner with a blonde wig on in the 'other' black one ready to spring into action to shake off the enemy? LOL


The grey one was featured in one of the Ford mags a good few years back. IIRC sure it was a bit tarted up
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http://karakullake.blogspot.com/2011...nas-fords.html
hers or just a drive ? fair play she liked her rs's lol
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I think you will find that there was only one for princess di

All the others are fakes that have been painted.

Too many blaggers about, I brought a escort that was built by kieth who looks after the bonkers collection and that's who looks after the ONLY black s1
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Originally Posted by rsmark86
I think you will find that there was only one for princess di

All the others are fakes that have been painted.

Too many blaggers about, I brought a escort that was built by kieth who looks after the bonkers collection and that's who looks after the ONLY black s1

Depends what you class as a "fake black s1"

What does "fake" mean?

If I car was sprayed at a dealership by ford in black... I don't think you can class that as fake

And I thought one was made in black for di husband?
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Originally Posted by blackbeautyzetec
Right I been researching and basically only 1 was make in black from ford and has the vin plate saying black in Germany. 6 others were then sprayed by ford dealerships for other customers along with one in orange
thats wrong from the info iv just had from mark bailey (bonkers)

copy from email he sent me

Well there was only one car for many years but another car was talked about, that car was found about two years ago so there's two cars both from the the royal household
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Originally Posted by hynes67
thats wrong from the info iv just had from mark bailey (bonkers)

copy from email he sent me

Well there was only one car for many years but another car was talked about, that car was found about two years ago so there's two cars both from the the royal household
Yea one was for di and one for her husband then others were sprayed at dealerships
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Originally Posted by blackbeautyzetec
Yea one was for di and one for her husband then others were sprayed at dealerships
Charles didn't have one.
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so does anyone know whhos got the other black one now, or what condition its in ?
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It's in excellent condition,owned by a well known insurance man.

He's a member on here i'd imagine
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Originally Posted by blackbeautyzetec
and one for her husband then
You've just made that bit up or been fed something unfortunately. There are NO photos of Charles being in or near a black S1 so that cannot be confirmed.


Originally Posted by Java=Blue
so does anyone know whhos got the other black one now, or what condition its in ?
That car is in very good condition. It isn't owned by the insurance guy mentioned above but that particular car is owned by someone else with a passion for the cars.
The car the insurance guy owns is also black however and does have history, but the whole story is unknown and nothing is known 100% unfortunately.

Mungus and Steven have given you the correct KNOWN information right at the top of this topic.
Anything else is just internet tales, untruths, guess-work or made-up from people that don't know what they're talking about.
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Originally Posted by rs shawn
You've just made that bit up or been fed something unfortunately. There are NO photos of Charles being in or near a black S1 so that cannot be confirmed.



That car is in very good condition. It isn't owned by the insurance guy mentioned above but that particular car is owned by someone else with a passion for the cars.
The car the insurance guy owns is also black however and does have history, but the whole story is unknown and nothing is known 100% unfortunately.

Mungus and Steven have given you the correct KNOWN information right at the top of this topic.
Anything else is just internet tales, untruths, guess-work or made-up from people that don't know what they're talking about.
So now there is 3?

Who were these originally owned by then if you apparently know?
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Read posts 5 & 6. There was 3 mention from the beginning


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