Plan to Polybush my rs turbo, Where is the best place to go for the bushes?

steve

 

i'm buying some from powerflex, there is also floflex .
Don't really know if there are any other

 

Steve, powerflex are the best ones to buy m8 woodford garage totnes do them 01803 863958 but floflex are ok for the money you can get them on ebay m8 and there is also superflex

 

Any reason why?

I have the flo-flex ones and can't fault them. They do the job perfectly and are very easy to fit!

Lee

 

Powerflex's reputation for polybushes is 2nd to none floflex are alot cheaper for a reason they have already hit the wall once when they were deflex so says it all really

 

Also do a search on here the question has been asked many times before about what bushes are best and the general consensus is powerflex!!!

 

Isn't the metal sleeve on powerflex stainless and floflex just steel? Thought I read it some where.

Alex.

 

I'll give woodford a call tomorrow then , cheers

 

i didnt know flo flex was deflex before. or i prob wudnt have just fited them to the rear of my escort, in sayin that they seem alot better than deflex ones ones the were just soft mush had them on my fiesta they didnt last atall

 

I fitted a full set of rear flo flex about 3 years ago and there seem to be fine with no problems.

 

It has been asked but there aren't any explanations as to why they're better other than people saying they are, hence why I went with flo-flex. I have no issues with the flo-flex whatsoever.

A company going bust doesn't neccessarily mean their product was rubbish, could have been several reasons. A mate of mine is on the third incarnation of his company, this time it's taken off.

Pretty sure mine are stainless.

Lee

 

Only downside of Flo-Flex, all four roll bar bushes need to be cut with a hacksaw as they aint pre-cut using a machine. Then the steering rack bushes aint an exact match to standard bushes and can be fiddly to fit. They look great and fit well. I had one problem with Powerflex which was a front ARB bush had split after a couple of hundred miles, if that. The split was along the seam where the bush meets the other half, to be part of a one piece bush.

 

You are entitled to your opinion m8 but the floflex/deflex bushes have failed on lots of occasions on lots of different cars, and they went bust because there product was shit and so was there after sales!!!!

 

When did Flo-flox go bust? only got mine back in august.

 

They were originally a company called deflex mark and went bust a while ago

 

i have floflex on my s2 and they have been fine no complaints here

and i just ordered some powerflex bushes for my bmw from larkspeed and they were cheapest i could find for my car

 

Powerflex ones are best quality, with Flo-flex you must tune them with the knife to fit Like allways, you get what you paid for. I fitted Flo-flex front kit to my erst and for that money they are better than original rubber.

 

the power flex bushes i've had personal experience with have been built to last, i've broken cars and kept the polys because they last so well

on the othe hand, i fitted a set of flo flex/de flex polys and the difference is like driving a top of the range audi and then jumping into an old school lada, they both do the same job, but you know where the money has gone

 

Ive had flo-flex/de-flex on my cars for 5+yrs and never had any probs, they fit straight on (bar cutting the front arb bushes in half with a hot knife) the car handles superbly. I don't see that there can be that much diff in floflex and powerflex tbh...
Also rally design sell "poly race" bushes, pretty much made from lego bricks as they are a rock hard plastic!
Also just because de-flex went skint it doesnt reflect in the quality of their product, just their business management skills... Some of the best companies in terms of products go under, its just tough times etc.

 

Roger, there is a big difference in floflex/deflex bushes compared to powerflex i for one have used both and there is no comparison imo, deflex went skint a few years ago because there product was shit and they had loads of complaints about them fucking up i had 2 sets of anti roll bar bushes and a set of tca's under there warranty that went tits up never again so i use powerflex

 

the cheaper stuff seems to be hit and miss, you never seem to get the same quality of bush for 2 different cars whereas the powerflex stuff is always of high quality (other than the one that's split in this thread) and, from my point of view because they are just round the corner, when i've been to buy stuff from them in the past through powers, they've had stuff on the shelf and it's made me happy

 

Exactly dojj, you pay the added price for powerflex or superflex because the quality is that much better, and i would rather pay extra for something that is better quality

 

also spotted someone up there has mentioned rally design bushes

12 hours to fit inner and outer tca ones to a sierra for them, compared to 90 minutes for the powerflex ones, same tools, same everything, just a world of quality in difference

but that's not to say they were worse than what ford had fitted to the tcas at the time, i think a bit of mouldy cheese would have been better

 

I'm not trying to argue or force my own oppinion but you will have to tell us why the quality is better, educate us. I know powerflex are more expensive but that doesn't mean that they are better. I've never had powerflex bushes so I can't form an oppinion on them, but the flo-flex ones I have had have done exactly what they were meant to.

I'm sure you werent on the board of directors that decided to put the company into administration so how can you say the product was the reason they went bust?

To those who mentioned the cutting, I did have to cut the rear ARB bushes with a stanley, but as my front ARB was freshly painted I slipped those ones on with some washing-up liquid.

Like I say, I'm not arguing or forcing my oppinion, I'd just like to know what aspect of the quality makes them better. Is it the compound of the plastic? Longevity? That the edges are smooth on powerflex items and their bushes are pre-cut? The fact they are yellow? Educate me!

Lee

 

the different colours specify the different harshness of the compound but i'm not sure which is which for colour to compare to

they are also much easier to fit, no fiddling about, no pressing shit it, they even come with coppaslip to grease up all the surfaces before you fit them so they settle in much better

the ones i got from rally design were like trying to fit a square peg to a round hole, the flofelx ones my mate fitted to his sierra were fucked after a year, the deflex ones i fitted to my granade were a pain in the arse as the sizes looked right but wern't and the powerflex ones i got years and years ago went from my 3 door to my saph to my estate to my hatch and i've still got them fitted to my saph out in the garden that i'm putting together, and i wrote my saph off in 97 so i can't give you a much better example that that

 

Quite a few mates have had floflex/deflex bushes fuck up after a few track days i have also had problems as mentioned above the floflex/deflex were an absolute nightmare to fit, dont know what they are like now as i wouldnt touch them with a barge pole!!!! the bushes themselves were badly made imo where as the last 3-4 rst's i have had have had powerflex bushes put on by me with no problems and the difference side by side of the tca's you know what are decent and what aren't, my rst at the moment has floflex/deflex bushes on it as it was like it when i bought it last year but am in the process of changing everything to powerflex

 

I'd like to know why exactly powerflex are better?
Ive fitted 3 or 4 sets of flo-flex and they have always fitted fine, other than the cutting of the front arb, but thats down to laziness and not wanting to take the arb right off to fit them.
Also i've never had to grease or copperslip anything to get them to fit, they are self lubricating and are slippery to touch and slide on fine... Ive even got exhaust rubbers made by them.
I'd love to go out in 2 identical cars 1 with powerflex and 1 with flo-flex to see if there really is any difference or if its just down to opinion...
If powerflex are that much better then i'll upgrade but i honestly can't see how 2 bits of "polyurethane" can differ that much...

Millsy, how do you know they went skint because their product was bad and not for other or financial reasons?

 

so myself and dojj are talking rubbish then? i am talking from myself and m8's cossies etc personal experiances with floflex/deflex and i know it was partly financial due to not selling enough of there product due to numerous complaints and i know this as i was told by james (a very good friend) at woodford garage motorsport due to them sometimes dealing with them and powerflex!!! now if people want to run floflex/deflex then do so but i am just giving my opinion as dojj is and other people and speaking from experiance with the said bushes, I am not going to argue but its basically like someone saying greenstuff pads are as good as ferrodo dsp when there not.

 

I had a set of flo flex on the back of my escort and they were fucked ( out of shape, chances missin and split) after 1000 miles.


Comple crap, very poor product not fit for purpouse IMO.

 

Nobody said you were talking rubbish, I just wanted to know how you formed your oppinion. Sounds like the issue is with longevity then as I'm with Roger on them being very easy to fit. But let us not judge Flo-flex on deflex's downfalls. We don't know that the compounds or mouldings are the same do we? Maybe you're right in they went bust due to a poor quality item, but maybe their latest venture uses better quality components.

I'm definately with you boys on the rally design ones though, had them on a previous ERST and they deformed as I fitted them!! The TCA to ARB ones didn't even fit the holes, had to sand them down.

A garage said so, then it must be true.... As a wise man once said "believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see"

Lee

 

A garage said so lol...
Yeah its each to their own i guess!
Oh, ive just ordered some rally design bushes for my arb's to stiffen them up...!

 

So i take it you haven't heard of woodford garage motorsport then roger? its a garage and a seperate motorsport shop for performance parts and online parts, gaz, ferrodo, samco, group a, all cossie and rst parts as well as others and seeing as they have been my friends for nearly 20 years and recknowned in the cossie rst world i am more inclined to believe anything they say than the people on here who think floflex bushes are good i have seen there shoddy bushes when they have failed with my own eyes on more than 1occasion when cossies and rst's have been brought in with the said fucked bushes and replaced with decent "powerflex" bushes

 

what do you mean by a "garage said so lol" ??????

 

Zippyobrien, dojj, bomsch, and myself have made comments to give our views so if people to choose to buy floflex then fine, all i will say is they will not last and are simply not as good as powerflex but hey ho i know nothing i have only owned 24 rst's and been in the ford scene for over 20 years

 

I think they are saying they want to see why, you haven't really said why they are better. Yea ok maybe they have more % of fuck ups over a small amount of time but that could be any reason

Its like Pepsi and coke, we all know coke is better but I know people that can't stand it.

 

Heh, the real truth will appear if you try fit rear beam mounts to Sierra.
Flo-flex:

vs powerflex:

In both ways you will be f**cked with Flo-flex ones, if you tray fit them yourself- you will be "slightly" pissed, if you let them to fit in the shop, your bill for the job will be 2x more if you have with powerflex bushes

 

Milesy - Firstly, chill out we are talking about bits of rubber/plastic that sit under the car, hardly a cause to get worked up.
Re: a garage says so lol - See the post above my last one...

Like so many people have now said, its a matter of opinion and you are entitled to yours and i am entitled to mine. All i was doing was defending flo-flex because afew ppl said they had issues fitting them, i have never experienced any issues with flo-flex whatsoever. If you have then unlucky for you, but it aint my fault.

Like i said if somebody can justify a genuine reason, not an opinion, then i'll gladly give powerflex a try but at this moment in time i can't see any reason not to use flo-flex.

 

+1

Lee

 

Myself and dojj, bomsch have all given reasons why powerflex should be used over floflex i have seen it with my own eyes when they have taken whats left of floflex/deflex bushes out of cossies, rst's etc and have yet to see a powerflex bush fucked! i am not saying it doesn't or hasn't happened but in my experiance i have used both and there is no comparison anyway as roger has said we are all entitled to our opinions

 

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